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Alien series (Noah Hawley) [FX]

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭LineConsole


    My all time favourite movie. This could go either way. Thanks for the heads up I’ll be keeping an eye on this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Guaranteed not everyone is going to like it!

    If Legion and Fargo are anything to go by though, I'm definitely gonna like it!

    Hrmmm.. he tends to go all-in. Guessing there's gonna be some really scary scene outta nowhere at some point.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Slydice wrote: »
    Guaranteed not everyone is going to like it!

    If Legion and Fargo are anything to go by though, I'm definitely gonna like it!

    Hrmmm.. he tends to go all-in. Guessing there's gonna be some really scary scene outta nowhere at some point.

    Well, Alien loved linking its xenomprh with corporate greed and industrial espionage, so I'm going to take a guess this show will be set in or around that same world. Maybe some kind of corporate gold rush in the wake of Weyland Yutani hitting the wall... a scramble to restart their weaponisation project...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭PhiloCypher


    Brian Wood did a pretty decent comic that saw Ripley's Daughter Amanda , last seen in the Alien Isolation game looking for her Mother, pairing up with colonial marine and a synthetic to frustrate Weyland Yutani attempts to weaponize the Aliens. It would make a solid basis for a tv show .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    I'd feel a lot less optimistic about this if Ridley Scott was the main creative talent behind this project instead of Hawley.

    He obviously did incredible work on the original film but Prometheus and Covenant had some good moments but overall left a lot to be desired especially plot wise.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Well, Alien loved linking its xenomprh with corporate greed and industrial espionage, so I'm going to take a guess this show will be set in or around that same world. Maybe some kind of corporate gold rush in the wake of Weyland Yutani hitting the wall... a scramble to restart their weaponisation project...

    Was thinking similar. Some kinda feel like the Space station at the start of Aliens... except something frigthening included.. probably whereever they've got that weaponisation project going.


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    I wonder how successful this could be as material for a tv series really tho, notwithstanding the books.

    Even getting more than a couple of decent movies out of it has proved a struggle.

    The impact of the aliens was greatly lessened after the first [x] number of alien encounters across the movies.

    (although I actually liked Prometheus to an extent - Covenant was crap)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    If I remember correctly, a couple of those Alien shorts from last year were pretty good


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 61 ✭✭whysobecause


    I'd feel a lot less optimistic about this if Ridley Scott was the main creative talent behind this project instead of Hawley.

    He obviously did incredible work on the original film but Prometheus and Covenant had some good moments but overall left a lot to be desired especially plot wise.
    Prometheus was good.
    Covenant I watched once, will never watch it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Hawley puts a lot of work into his shows. It doesn't seem to translate to money though.

    Who owns FX now? Disney I think. Disney feel like they look out for money but FX tended to just go in to make the shows.
    Maybe if it breaks even Disney will let it run.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    "New Alien TV Series Will Be Class Warfare With Xenomorphs" - Vanity Fair interview with Hawley.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Taking wild leaps into speculation, Hawley's comments read to me like a hint that Earth might be overrun with xenomorphs; so if you're telling a "class warfare" story, then one might immediately look towards any genre fiction with sieges in their premise. So zombie stories, to Attack on Titan and all so on, where the rich live sheltered, safe & distant lives, while the rest of us slog around the barricades - a breach or infection always a daily risk.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Interesting take and Attack The Block would be a good basic example of how it could be done well and authentically.

    But tackling such issues authentically and genuinely these days is a massive challenge, so god speed to Hawley I hope he's got a handle on it.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Interesting take and Attack The Block would be a good basic example of how it could be done well and authentically.

    But tackling such issues authentically and genuinely these days is a massive challenge, so god speed to Hawley I hope he's got a handle on it.

    "Alien" meets "High-Rise"?

    Damn, I'm stoking my own hype here lol :D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    A small tidbit of info came up for this show, via an interview with Noah Hawley for Esquire, while promoting his new novel:

    “In the movies, we have this Weyland-Yutani Corporation, which is clearly also developing artificial intelligence—but what if there are other companies trying to look at immortality in a different way, with cyborg enhancements or transhuman downloads? Which of those technologies is going to win? It’s ultimately a classic science fiction question: does humanity deserve to survive? As Sigourney Weaver said in that second movie, ‘I don’t know which species is worse. At least they don’t **** each other over for a percentage.’ Even if the show was 60% of the best horror action on the planet, there’s still 40% where we have to ask, ‘What are we talking about it, beneath it all?’ Thematically, it has to be interesting.”

    Obviously, nothing in that quotation mentions the xenomorphs themselves, so one wonders where - or even if - they'll figure. And if they don't, will FX be happy enough to leave Hawley be, in this IP driven world we live in?

    https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/books/a38591125/noah-hawley-anthem-alien-fargo-interview/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    I...

    I really want to see what Hawley has in mind. I'd rather know than it not see the light of day. Especially if it sounds like he's got a big question he wants to explore.

    TELL US WHAT YOU FOUND NOAH! .. huh.. given his name, it'd be funny if the ending he delivered was Humanity needing to get off planet on an Ark 😁



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Small update to this, but looks like Hawley has delivered all the scripts and filming will begin "next year".




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Some good nuggets in that article .. not just about this show too!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Looking for news of this but I can't see anything. Anyone any info?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Nothing since the last update; only that filming is supposed to start sometime this year. I'm not even sure there has been any casting yet.

    There's also a new Alien movie in the works & that's to start shooting in February I believe.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    IMDB page is sparse: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13623632/

    Language: English

    Film locations: Thailand

    Color: Color 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    Colour is my favourite colour.

    This is hot of the press today.... and only reconfirms that production starts later this year. 🙄




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,542 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    The weaponisation aspect of Alien has always been absolutely fucking dumb.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Well the first casting has appeared, so it's still definitely happening: Sydney Chandler is to play a lead, but no details beyond that WRT who she'll be playing.




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    I've heard some rumours around this and a leaked audition tape that corroborates them.

    I wouldn't be confident at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    A woman lead.. looks like the imdb ratings panel isn't available for the 1/10 scorers to jump in yet:


    Anyway.. her imdb is here: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm7584896/

    She got experience alongside Florence Pugh and directed by Olivia Wilde in Don't Worry Darling

    She was also in the Sex Pistols series Pistol

    Haven't seen either.

    Wiki pointed me towards her getting some experience in a Colin Farrell series, called Sugar .. so I dunno.. that could go either way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,877 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Reports today they will make this series without SAG members.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,297 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    It means they'll hire, I'm guessing wildly, from outside the US. I guess, cos if not they'll be casting picket crossers? Not sure

    Post edited by pixelburp on


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,333 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Likely bad and unexperienced; they might get lucky but I'd not count on pulling in great talent (esp. as other series will have the same problem).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,542 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    If anyone remotely thought that this thing was going to be anything but shit, they're probably in no doubt now.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Fargo and Legion is still carrying a lot of water Hawley has an interesting idea for this. And as I've heard this is to be set on earth, I've a funny feeling there won't be that much xenomorphs in this show, acting as punctuations than the point of the thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,877 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    This has been retweeted by a few actors, Amy Berg has written for a lot of TV series.

    Anyone who takes a non union job during the strike could be barred from joining the union in the future.




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Looks like production has finally shut down, out in Thailand no less (wonder if that's for location shooting?)

    FX's upcoming Alien television series has now fully shut down production, amid the ongoing SAG-AFTRA strike. On Monday, a report revealed that the series has suspended its production in Thailand, with the ensemble cast of the series being sent home last Friday. The pause in production was reportedly planned, with the crew reportedly continuing to work and prepare the series' sets, so that filming can begin as soon as possible after the strike ends. It had previously been reported that Alien would be able to continue production amid the strike, as it has a largely international ensemble and only two of its main cast members are members of SAG-AFTRA. As a result, Alien was able to continue filming for at least the past month with non-SAG-AFTRA members. Additionally, the report reveals that Shadow and Bone star Kit Young has been cast in Alien as a character named Tootles. 




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Woof: Hawley now saying the show won't air 'til early 2025, so anyone eagerly awaiting this may get comfy lol.

    “We’re all just waiting for the strike, and it will end,” Hawley told TheWrap in an interview ahead of the fifth installment of “Fargo.”

    “The plan right now is to go back in January and be shooting in February, and looks like shoot until July or so, which puts the air date somewhere in the in the first half of ’25,” Hawley said




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,297 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Well it's always nice to have something to look forward too lol.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Some interesting details in that article: I hadn't known or had forgotten it was to be set before the events of the original film - wonder if after the latter-day prequel movies though?

    Plus the main character's description sounds potentially tricky

    Details about Olyphant’s character are not being disclosed. I hear he plays Kirsh, a synth who acts as a mentor and trainer for Chandler’s Wendy who is a hybrid, a meta-human who has the brain and consciousness of a child but the body of an adult

    Wonder is this some kind of new subservient class to replace/ compliment to androids?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Anyone hating the whole bio-weapon angle rest easy: Noah Hawley hates the idea too and everything from the Prometheus films will be ignored.

    "The thing with Alien is that it’s not just a great monster movie. It’s the story of humanity trapped between its primordial parasitic past and its AI future, and they’re both trying to kill us. So, there’s nowhere to go. It’s really a story of does humanity deserve to survive? Does humanity’s arrogance in thinking that we’re no longer food and its arrogance in creating these AI beings who we think will do what we tell them — but ultimately might lose their mind — is there a way out?”

    “Ridley and I have talked about this — and many, many elements of the show,” Hawley says. “For me, and for a lot of people, this ‘perfect life form’ — as it was described in the first film — is the product of millions of years of evolution that created this creature that may have existed for a million years out there in space. The idea that, on some level, it was a bioweapon created half an hour ago, that’s just inherently less useful to me. And in terms of the mythology, what’s scary about this monster, is that when you look at those first two movies, you have this retro-futuristic technology. You have giant computer monitors, these weird keyboards … You have to make a choice. Am I doing that? Because in the prequels, Ridley made the technology thousands of years more advanced than the technology of Alien, which is supposed to take place in those movies’ future. There’s something about that that doesn’t really compute for me. I prefer the retro-futurism of the first two films. And so that’s the choice I’ve made — there’s no holograms. The convenience of that beautiful Apple store technology is not available to me.”




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,542 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    That bio weapon nonsense that has plagued the whole franchise was and is a terrible, terrible, idea, so I'm delighted that it's getting the boot. Ridley Scott's destructive prequels can get stuffed too and I agree with Noah Hawley that the advanced tech in 'Prometheus' looks ridiculous when it's stacked up against the tech of the "future" movies. I'll never know why Scott decided to go down that route. Pity there was no one around to just say no to him.

    In any case, those prequels seem to have been quietly consigned to the "forget about it" bin.

    I'm still not all that enthused about this series though and I really dislike the idea of setting it on Earth too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,297 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I love his thinking. Any chance Paramount could get him to do a Star Trek film that would be great. He gets it.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    I don't think ignoring Prometheus and Covenant is groundbreaking news for this show, as I never expected Hawley to use much of anything from them anyway. Neither did I expect Ridley Scott to hand over that narrative to anyone else.

    Still, it's great to hear again how passionate Hawley is.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Well it has an official title now it seems, Alien: Earth. Kinda tipping the hat there in terms of what we might expect though the rumours had spoken that it was gonna be set on Earth & revolving around the corporations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Setting my expectations suitably low, might be pleasantly surprised that way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,877 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Firsy look teaser.

    It will premiere on Hulu in the States so should appear on Disney+ here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    15 seconds of a xenomorph close up. Not exactly Christmas, is it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    There was a brief synopsis released with the teaser as well. I've spoilered it to protect you from how generic it all sounds! :pac:

    When a mysterious space vessel crash-lands on Earth, a young woman (Sydney Chandler) and a ragtag group of tactical soldiers make a fateful discovery that puts them face-to-face with the planet’s greatest threat in FX’s highly anticipated TV series Alien: Earth from creator Noah Hawley.

    The perfect planet for the perfect organism. Alien: Earth is coming 2025. Only on Hulu.



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