Covid-19 likely to be man made

Unicorn Milk Latte wrote: »

Apologies, I stand corrected, I confused you saying 'I blame the CCP' with 'I blame China'.



Although, if you consider the context - assigning political blame first, and then trying to construct a pseudo-scientific narrative to validate the claim - it makes absolutely no difference.

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Do you believe Covid 19 has been tampered with/modified/created by humans or it's zoonotic?

lucernarian wrote: »

do you even know who you're replying to?

Unicorn Milk Latte wrote: »

Yes. Some random person on the Internet.

Does anyone still think covid didn't come from a Lab?

This is a thought-provoking discussion about why the Lab leak makes sense., You always have people in life who doubt 9/11 and JFK was a conspiracy, It's great to see some reasonable discussion around this Covid 19 topic. The clues all point to a lab leak, but some people don't see the evidence.Find many on here. 

Your article is false. He provided plenty of evidence that a court would find Covid 19 was engineered. Things he mentioned could not have come from the wild or animals. Moreover, he makes a strong case that Fauci and others suppressed this knowledge. He said Fauci and other virologists actually believed could have came from a lab read their original leaked emails, but in their positions given to the public giving different stories. They gave their true thoughts in speaking with each over emails but anything provided to the public was reversed.

Elon Musk even exposed all the Covid political backstabbing that went on behind the scenes at Twitter. Possibly, reputation management denials are being used to hide the truth. They probably wanted to protect their own asses since the leak went global and their funding into this was the main cause,

There is no way anyone could claim there is no proof after watching this video. 

So lets settle on the most incomprehensible, implausible scenario that it was all due to two animals who went at it behind the Wuhan Coronavirus Research Laboratory.

Because god forbid it's the blindingly obvious scenario that you refuse to accept due to the chances of there being a conspiratorial element to the whole thing. 👍️

Hi all,

I don't post on boards.ie often but on balance, I think the most likely explanation of what happened is an accidental lab leak. In 2014 President Obama received a briefing on 'gain of function research' - something which has split the community of virologists. Obama decided to put in place a pause on U.S. federal Government funding for this research due to perceived risks. Other parts of the U.S. Government, most notably the NIH and others, felt that the research should continue. American taxpayers money was then provided to a non-profit health organisation called The EcoHealth Alliance. The EcoHealth Alliance is headquarted in NYC and is led by a British national, called Dr. Peter Daszak. They then worked with the NIH and the Wuhan Institute of Virology to conduct research on coronaviruses as they were hoping to learn more about SARS-type viruses and prevent a global pandemic. In effect, their mission was to create 'an early warning system.' Unfortunately, as part of the research, they inserted what is known as a 'furin cleavage site' into the spike protein to make it more effective at infecting human cells. In labs, you can grow human cells on mice called 'humanized mice' where you then infect the cells to see how a human cell would react. If you don't infect the human cell, you can't determine how it would react. Unfortunately, it seems likely there was some sort of accident which lead to the pandemic. Lab accidents are quite common. No other coronavirus has the 'unique furin cleavage site' that Covid-19 has, thus it isn't a bioweapon, or entirely natural, it was simply an original strain of coronavirus which was made more effective at infecting human cells with modifications made to the spike protein. Even Dr. Raplh Baric who has said it didn't come from the lab said in private emails 'this looks potentially engineered.' This would explain why it is so transmissible. There is insufficient evidence to prove that it did come from a natural zoontonic spillover. Sadly, like any profession, there were also conflicts of interest. Dr Fauci funded a lot of this research and Dr Daszak (who also was on the WHO team investigating the origins of covid) likely had a vested interested in descrediting the lab leak theory. Some people believe that patient zero was a young lady called Huang Yanling who accidently infected herself. I don't think we will ever get to the bottom of what happened but this is what I think happened. I don't think any Government would have wanted to admit this during the pandemic due to the economic damage caused etc. It is very hard to know if the above is true, when the accident occurred. It is possible there was a delay in notifying more senior members of the CCP. Anyway, we will never likely know I don't think. I just think it is a bit too coincidental personally that the virus type was SARS and the source city was Wuhan when we know the Wuhan Institute of Virology has the largest databank of SARS-type viruses. I also think the links between the NIH, the EcoHealth Alliance and the Wuhan Institute of Virology are well documented. It was a sad accident, and I hope it doesn't happen again. If research like this is to continue, I personally think it should be done in a remote area and not large population centers.

Is your personal opinion.

The current (overwhelming) consensus among scientists is that it jumped from bats to humans (via a host). However we don't know for sure, so we can't rule out the lab leak theory. As we all know, the lab leak theory is more "exciting" and is therefore more attractive to people who are into conspiracy theories.

A very good post. Well-written summary of the issues. 

There aren't many scientists who support the leak theory. There are many who support the zoonotic origin theory. Again, neither can be ruled out, but the scientific weight is still behind the zoonotic link.

Those people are the experts, not us.

Of course a bunch of people on an internet conspiracy theory forum will "pick a side" that represents the most exciting conspiracy sounding one. It goes without saying.

Where's the scientific weight behind the zoonotic link?

The "Experts" aren't always correct either, not to mention coercion maybe a factor, from scientists to publishers. Anyone questioning the origin are branded "Conspiracy Theorists". I think people questioning the obvious is absolutely healthy.