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All Covid-19 measures are permanent, don't be a boiling frog!

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    #5192
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,453 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    buzzerxx wrote: »
    NPHET stands for "No Pubs, Hotels, Entertainment or Tourism."
    #DisbandNPHET The lies will be permanent.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10222263630592047&set=a.1750128025376

    Facebook, is this the source of all your news?


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    #5193
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users Posts: 17,438 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Cases are rising again, so they've made a decision based on that.

    Do you believe there is some conspiracy behind this, if so, what is it?

    Cases! Nooooooo.. those bloody cases killing everyone.. how about actual figures like the number of people in ICU..and trust me on this, they're not young and healthy.


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    #5194
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 wrote: »
    Cases! Nooooooo.. those bloody cases killing everyone.. how about actual figures like the number of people in ICU..and trust me on this, they're not young and healthy.

    OK. What are the actual figures and where are you getting the information from?
    Why do you believe the government and NPHET are engaging in a conspiracy to misrepresent the numbers to adversely affect the tourism and entertainment industries?

    Which measures do you believe are going to be permanent?


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    #5195
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,800 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 wrote: »
    Cases! Nooooooo.. those bloody cases killing everyone.. how about actual figures like the number of people in ICU..and trust me on this, they're not young and healthy.

    Are you trying to suggest there is some conspiracy behind all this? if so what is it?


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    #5196
    pearcider
    Registered Users Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭pearcider


    King Mob wrote: »
    That's kinda the point though.
    If pearcider and other conspiracy theorists aren't able to point to any kind of time, either exact or inexact, that shows that their claims aren't actually based on anything.
    If they had special insight or secret information, then they'd be able to point out a specific time frame.
    If however they were just making **** up, like all the previous claims of this in years previous, then they'd keep the time frame vague and open to avoid having to admit they were wrong.

    Pearcider won't answer because he can't provide an answer.
    He can't provide an answer because the conspiracy twitter cranks he's listening to don't provide an answer.
    They don't provide an answer because they're making **** up to sell to the gullible.

    You only have to look at the debt to gdp ratios of the US - or Ireland for that matter. All fiat currencies (and the governments that back them) eventually return to their intrinsic value. Zero. No I don’t have particular insight or information. I just know my history. It is all freely available to the interested observer. Of course the main stream media don’t report on it. Sure they will report on the symptoms of the malaise affecting us but not on the actual causes. See for example the hullabaloo about the investment funds buying up housing estates in Kildare. This is just an example of the Cantillion effect which the central banks governments are themselves wholly complicit in. But there is no real news anymore it’s all fake.


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    #5197
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    pearcider wrote: »
    You only have to look at the debt to gdp ratios of the US - or Ireland for that matter. All fiat currencies (and the governments that back them) eventually return to their intrinsic value. Zero. No I don’t have particular insight or information. I just know my history. It is all freely available to the interested observer. Of course the main stream media don’t report on it. Sure they will report on the symptoms of the malaise affecting us but not on the actual causes. See for example the hullabaloo about the investment funds buying up housing estates in Kildare. This is just an example of the Cantillion effect which the central banks governments are themselves wholly complicit in. But there is no real news anymore it’s all fake.

    Ok. So when will this happen? At what point will you accept that your prediction was wrong?

    If you don't have any insight or information, what's the difference between your claims and just plucking stuff out of the air?
    What makes your prediction different from all of the exact same predictions that have been made for years now?


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    #5198
    PuddingBreath
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    see ya'll summer 2022 for a scoop in the pub following our third "booster" jab or in 2023 following our 8th injection ?!


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    #5199
    pearcider
    Registered Users Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭pearcider


    King Mob wrote: »
    Ok. So when will this happen? At what point will you accept that your prediction was wrong?

    If you don't have any insight or information, what's the difference between your claims and just plucking stuff out of the air?
    What makes your prediction different from all of the exact same predictions that have been made for years now?

    It’s not a prediction it’s a mathematical certainty. We are in the endgame for the worlds financial system and the elite know this.


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    #5200
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    pearcider wrote: »
    It’s not a prediction it’s a mathematical certainty.
    Ok. Show your math then.
    Please also use this math to explain when this is going to happen.
    pearcider wrote: »
    We are in the endgame for the worlds financial system and the elite know this.
    Yes. Conspiracy theorists like yourself have been claiming this for decades. They will for decades yet.


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    #5201
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,453 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    PuddingBreath wrote: »
    see ya'll summer 2022 for a scoop in the pub following our third "booster" jab or in 2023 following our 8th injection ?!

    I was in the pub tonight watching the footy.


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    #5202
    PintOfView
    Registered Users Posts: 857 ✭✭✭PintOfView


    buzzerxx wrote: »
    Why do you ask? Do you condone this new sick covid measure on dying children?

    I'm sorry but what nonsense are you talking about?
    You obviously think someone is doing something bad to sick children.
    What is happening, and how do you know?

    I would be extremely surprised if there is even 1% truth in what you think!


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    #5203
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users Posts: 6,483 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    pearcider wrote: »
    It’s not a prediction it’s a mathematical certainty. We are in the endgame for the worlds financial system and the elite know this.

    That seems strange. If they know it then why are some trying to make more money? If it’s end game each dollar bill won’t be worth the price of a sheet of toilet paper. Trying to make money with the knowledge of impending financial doom is a contradiction.


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    #5204
    Trigger
    Registered Users Posts: 17,538 ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    Mod: Off Topic and nonsense posts deleted.

    Buzzerxx cut out the link dumping, read the charter before posting


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    #5205
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,594 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    buzzerxx wrote: »
    NPHET stands for "No Pubs, Hotels, Entertainment or Tourism."
    #DisbandNPHET The lies will be permanent.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10222263630592047&set=a.1750128025376

    A Facebook image and a twitter hashtag. Good Lord.


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    #5206
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,800 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    pearcider wrote: »
    You only have to look at the debt to gdp ratios of the US - or Ireland for that matter. All fiat currencies (and the governments that back them) eventually return to their intrinsic value. Zero. No I don’t have particular insight or information. I just know my history. It is all freely available to the interested observer. Of course the main stream media don’t report on it. Sure they will report on the symptoms of the malaise affecting us but not on the actual causes. See for example the hullabaloo about the investment funds buying up housing estates in Kildare. This is just an example of the Cantillion effect which the central banks governments are themselves wholly complicit in. But there is no real news anymore it’s all fake.

    The US is rated Aaa, meaning it has no issue servicing it's national debt. Norway, which has a sovereign wealth fund 4 times larger than it's national debt, is rated Aaa. Likewise it has no issue servicing it's nat. debt (and could pay it off any time, but it's necessary for economic reasons).

    According to you, that's all going to collapse, when it is going to collapse?

    If you really believe this stuff (I suspect you don't), what are you doing to prepare for the Armageddon?

    Or are you just blindly swallowing financial doomsday stuff from Youtube and conspiracy blogs like Zerohedge?


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    #5207
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    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-news-covid-vaccine-lockdown-scotland-school-cases/#comments

    "Wearing face masks and social distancing should continue after July 19, a World Health Organisation (WHO) expert has warned.

    Dr David Nabarro, Special Envoy on Covid-19 for the WHO, said while he accepts keeping the restrictions will make people angry, his advice is to keep restrictions in place.

    He told the BBC's Radio 4 PM programme: "We do have to be prepared for the inevitability that viruses will continue to be a problem for us. We're going to have to really seriously contemplate continuing to practise some degree of physical distancing, some degree of mask wearing, some degree of hygiene, some degree of protecting those who are most at risk, as long as there are these nasty viruses around, whether or not we're vaccinated."

    Viruses have always been, and will always be around. If Dr David Nabarro gets his way then mask wearing and social distancing will be permanent. At least in the UK. But we were told and assured that they were temporary measures.


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    #5208
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,800 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Gortanna wrote: »
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-news-covid-vaccine-lockdown-scotland-school-cases/#comments

    "Wearing face masks and social distancing should continue after July 19, a World Health Organisation (WHO) expert has warned.

    Dr David Nabarro, Special Envoy on Covid-19 for the WHO, said while he accepts keeping the restrictions will make people angry, his advice is to keep restrictions in place.

    He told the BBC's Radio 4 PM programme: "We do have to be prepared for the inevitability that viruses will continue to be a problem for us. We're going to have to really seriously contemplate continuing to practise some degree of physical distancing, some degree of mask wearing, some degree of hygiene, some degree of protecting those who are most at risk, as long as there are these nasty viruses around, whether or not we're vaccinated."

    Viruses have always been, and will always be around. If Dr David Nabarro gets his way then mask wearing and social distancing will be permanent. At least in the UK. But we were told and assured that they were temporary measures.

    If the virus persists to a certain level and variants keep emerging, why wouldn't we use measures to reduce it?

    There's a jab available for seasonal flu every year because the flu is seasonal. Does that make sense to you or no? If no, what don't you get?


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    #5209
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-news-covid-vaccine-lockdown-scotland-school-cases/#comments

    "Wearing face masks and social distancing should continue after July 19, a World Health Organisation (WHO) expert has warned.

    Dr David Nabarro, Special Envoy on Covid-19 for the WHO, said while he accepts keeping the restrictions will make people angry, his advice is to keep restrictions in place.

    He told the BBC's Radio 4 PM programme: "We do have to be prepared for the inevitability that viruses will continue to be a problem for us. We're going to have to really seriously contemplate continuing to practise some degree of physical distancing, some degree of mask wearing, some degree of hygiene, some degree of protecting those who are most at risk, as long as there are these nasty viruses around, whether or not we're vaccinated."

    Viruses have always been, and will always be around. If Dr David Nabarro gets his way then mask wearing and social distancing will be permanent. At least in the UK. But we were told and assured that they were temporary measures.

    I don't think you understand the words that you are reading.

    SOME measures will continue for SOME time in SOME situations while there is still a risk from viruses. Yet you are twisting this into the person you are quoting as being part of a plot to make us all wear masks forever more for some unknown reasons.


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    #5210
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    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    If the virus persists to a certain level and variants keep emerging, why wouldn't we use measures to reduce it?

    There's a jab available for seasonal flu every year because the flu is seasonal. Does that make sense to you or no? If no, what don't you get?

    He's saying as long as there are 'these nasty viruses around'. Not just covid. He's moved onto viruses in general.

    Variants will constantly emerge. If measures are going to be used for variants then they have to be permanent.

    Actually, speaking of the flu, Neil Clark has written about the possibility of a flu lockdown: https://www.rt.com/op-ed/527627-winter-lockdown-flu-uk/

    Permanent mask wearing and social distancing for viruses in general means the end of hospitality (it's probably too late in a number of countries) and many businesses.


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    robinph wrote: »
    I don't think you understand the words that you are reading.

    SOME measures will continue for SOME time in SOME situations while there is still a risk from viruses. Yet you are twisting this into the person you are quoting as being part of a plot to make us all wear masks forever more for some unknown reasons.

    He's saying viruses in general. Viruses will always be around. Ergo, the measures have to be permanent.


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    #5212
    robinph
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    He's saying viruses in general. Viruses will always be around. Ergo, the measures have to be permanent.

    Where is the conspiracy?


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    #5213
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users Posts: 6,483 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    He's saying viruses in general. Viruses will always be around. Ergo, the measures have to be permanent.

    He did not say that. You are saying that the measures “have to be permanent” due to either not understanding what you are reading, or deliberately misinterpreting it.


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    #5214
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,504 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Gortanna wrote: »
    He's saying viruses in general. Viruses will always be around. Ergo, the measures have to be permanent.

    Ergo my ass. Your leaps in logic are astounding.

    Its his opinion that they should be permanent, but as we know they are not.

    Also more selective quoting from you, what a surprise.

    The experts have said it will ultimately be a political decision, and many ministers have pointed out that they cannot wait to ditch their masks.


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    #5215
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,453 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    He's saying as long as there are 'these nasty viruses around'. Not just covid. He's moved onto viruses in general.

    Variants will constantly emerge. If measures are going to be used for variants then they have to be permanent.

    Actually, speaking of the flu, Neil Clark has written about the possibility of a flu lockdown: https://www.rt.com/op-ed/527627-winter-lockdown-flu-uk/

    Permanent mask wearing and social distancing for viruses in general means the end of hospitality (it's probably too late in a number of countries) and many businesses.

    He's not on about hospitality though, "in some cases" means hospitals, care homes, etc.

    You're saying hospitality is pretty much over yet bars/pubs/restaurants etc are booming here in the UK.

    From.your own link
    We're going to have to really seriously contemplate continuing to practise some degree of physical distancing, some degree of mask wearing, some degree of hygiene, some degree of protecting those who are most at risk, as long as there are these nasty viruses around, whether or not we're vaccinated."


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    #5216
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,800 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Gortanna wrote: »
    He's saying as long as there are 'these nasty viruses around'. Not just covid. He's moved onto viruses in general.

    Variants will constantly emerge. If measures are going to be used for variants then they have to be permanent.

    Actually, speaking of the flu, Neil Clark has written about the possibility of a flu lockdown: https://www.rt.com/op-ed/527627-winter-lockdown-flu-uk/

    Permanent mask wearing and social distancing for viruses in general means the end of hospitality (it's probably too late in a number of countries) and many businesses.

    Measures aren't permanent. Switch on your TV and look at the crowds at Wimbledon.

    Neil Clark is a scare-merchant crank, there's a reason why he's on a Russian propaganda network. Does it ever occur to you that people like him play to an audience like you? There are other posters here who think Covid doesn't exist, or that Satan created it, or that the "NWO" wants to usher in global Communism or that the entire monetary system is about to collapse, how do you not see the glaring similarities between those irrational beliefs and yours?


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    #5217
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    runawaybishop wrote: »
    Ergo my ass. Your leaps in logic are astounding.

    Its his opinion that they should be permanent, but as we know they are not.

    Also more selective quoting from you, what a surprise.

    The experts have said it will ultimately be a political decision, and many ministers have pointed out that they cannot wait to ditch their masks.

    At least you acknowledge that he wants them to be permanent.

    A handful of ministers have said they want to ditch them, but the new Health Secretary, Sajid Javid, has refused to rule out them continuing to be required after the 19th of July.


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    #5218
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    At least you acknowledge that he wants them to be permanent.

    A handful of ministers have said they want to ditch them, but the new Health Secretary, Sajid Javid, has refused to rule out them continuing to be required after the 19th of July.
    But you admitted that you can't explain why they want to make masks permanent.
    There's no reason for why they would want to. You have agreed this is the case.

    So why do you keep saying that they are going to be permanent?
    Why do you have to keep misinterpreting articles to support a conspiracy theory you've admitted was nonsense?


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    #5219
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,453 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    At least you acknowledge that he wants them to be permanent.

    A handful of ministers have said they want to ditch them, but the new Health Secretary, Sajid Javid, has refused to rule out them continuing to be required after the 19th of July.

    Yep, in hospitals, care homes etc....do you disagree with that?


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    #5220
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    He's not on about hospitality though, "in some cases" means hospitals, care homes, etc.

    You're saying hospitality is pretty much over yet bars/pubs/restaurants etc are booming here in the UK.

    From.your own link

    It's pretty much over in Ireland.

    He didn't say what he meant by 'some degree'. He doesn't want masks to be scrapped. That suggests he wants them to continue to be required everywhere, as they are currently. He's not the first to have said that. Susan Michie said they should be required forever. John Edmunds said something similar last year.


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    #5221
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,800 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    King Mob wrote: »
    But you admitted that you can't explain why they want to make masks permanent.
    There's no reason for why they would want to. You have agreed this is the case.

    So why do you keep saying that they are going to be permanent?
    Why do you have to keep misinterpreting articles to support a conspiracy theory you've admitted was nonsense?

    It's a case of "I believe measures will be permanent for reasons I can't explain, therefore I will filter any and all information to fit that belief". It's always amazing how posters can't see themselves doing this, especially when there's such rampant evidence of other posters doing it all around them.


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