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Level 42 · 28-06-2021 09:57PM

They will always go with NPHET after their solo disaster in january-no balls

Van.Bosch · 28-06-2021 09:57PM

I don’t blame NPHET, they are just being overly cautious. It’s less risk for them to show worst case. Their remit is health.

I blame the government, they are supposed to govern with the bigger picture in mind.

growleaves · 28-06-2021 09:58PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

What are the chances he'll use the "it's like a new virus" bullshít again..

Delta doubleplusungood

km79 · 28-06-2021 09:58PM

“ It threatens to push the reopening of Irish society into September, with reviews of the landscape in the interim.”

People on here suggested this last night and were shouted down for scaremongering

I am not sure how people can think that the reopening being delayed due to fear of delta is somehow magically going to be allowed to happen on 2/3 weeks when the delta numbers actually kick in !

If the leader of the country blindly follows NPHET advice now we CBA forget about indoors until next year
I can’t believe I’m actually saying that as I argued against my brother a few weeks ago when he said just that . Based on a conversation with a local publican

ionnn · 28-06-2021 09:58PM

What an absolute joke. I hope everyone in Ireland is ready for the insane tax increases incoming to pay for this ridiculously slow approach

28-06-2021 09:59PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

What are the chances he'll use the "it's like a new virus" bullshít again..

Actually, Martin coined the phrase, "it's a new beast", when referring to the Kent ("Alpha") variant.

The HorsesMouth · 28-06-2021 09:59PM

I don't know...part of me thinks that maybe the government are thinking that letter is THAT crazy that it will push them the other way. If they they follow NPHET advice they will not open indoor dining for the summer that's obvious now. So I'm not convinced this is over just yet...

stephenjmcd · 28-06-2021 09:59PM

Indestructable wrote: »

This is cruel and borderline sadistic at this stage.

I know, the cabinet committee on covid picked an awful time to meet with this France game.

Struggling to just watch the match... cruel & sadistic

Don't Chute! · 28-06-2021 10:00PM

Are any of the lads who told us this wasn’t going to happen around tonight? They’re gone very quiet.

GooglePlus · 28-06-2021 10:00PM

growleaves wrote: »

Delta doubleplusungood

Newspeak is a bit cringe, I can turn my TV off and ride who I like.

Indestructable · 28-06-2021 10:01PM

Are we actually going to end up with a situation where you can leave the country on the 19th but can't sit in a restaurant for a meal. That would be truly incredible.

Or is travel off the cards now too?

opinionated3 · 28-06-2021 10:02PM

This has actually hit me hard for some reason. My head is wrecked. Anger, sadness, frustration. Feeling so sorry for those working in tourism, hospitality etc. I'd love to say there's brighter days ahead but as a country we seem paralysed. Before you know it the summer will be over. Life can be brutally short folks, and these guys are playing games with ours while they sit in their ivory towers on big salaries.

Necro · 28-06-2021 10:04PM

Don't Chute! wrote: »

Are any of the lads who told us this wasn’t going to happen around tonight? They’re gone very quiet.

I don't think that was me but I did have a sort of blind optimism based on the previous successful re-openings in the past few months with no real spike in case numbers or more importantly, hospital numbers. In fact they're still continuing to fall.

That letter from NPHET though, has someone there been watching Contagion again in the past week or something?

Still, it's on the government. They can accept the NPHET advice in part and still push on tbh, that's literally what they are there to do (though it seems very often a difficult thing for them to grasp)

Relax brah · 28-06-2021 10:04PM

opinionated3 wrote: »

This has actually hit me hard for some reason. My head is wrecked. Anger, sadness, frustration. Feeling so sorry for those working in tourism, hospitality etc. I'd love to say there's brighter days ahead but as a country we seem paralysed. Before you know it the summer will be over. Life can be brutally short folks, and these guys are playing games with ours while they sit in their ivory towers on big salaries.

Grow up.

MOR316 · 28-06-2021 10:05PM

Indestructable wrote: »

Are we actually going to end up with a situation where you can leave the country on the 19th but can't sit in a restaurant for a meal. That would be truly incredible.

Or is travel off the cards now too?

Seen nothing on travel...

Assume NPHET want that wiped too...Which means going against EU policies...Which will be very interesting to see them justify

Necro · 28-06-2021 10:05PM

Indestructable wrote: »

Are we actually going to end up with a situation where you can leave the country on the 19th but can't sit in a restaurant for a meal. That would be truly incredible.

Or is travel off the cards now too?

Nah they will push on with travel.

It would be typically Irish of us to open up international travel again fully within the EU whilst still being unable to have a pint in your local

opinionated3 · 28-06-2021 10:07PM

Relax brah wrote: »

Grow up.

???

namloc1980 · 28-06-2021 10:07PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Seen nothing on travel...

Assume NPHET want that wiped too...Which means going against EU policies...Which will be very interesting to see them justify

Isn't there an "emergency brake" provision on the green cert that member states can exercise? NPHET will be recommending that no doubt.

growleaves · 28-06-2021 10:09PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

Newspeak is a bit cringe, I can turn my TV off and ride who I like.

You won't be arrested but you can be disgraced and disemployed for 'breaking the [social distancing] rules'.

MOR316 · 28-06-2021 10:09PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Isn't there an "emergency brake" provision on the green cert that member states can exercise? NPHET will be recommending that no doubt.

No idea tbh...

JRant · 28-06-2021 10:09PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Pretty much all the lockdowns everywhere were based off models that have been proven time and again to be completely inaccurate. They can pretty much feed it the info to get whatever result they want so that whatever they are suggesting is justified.

I've been calling it the Nolan "Random number generator" model for a long time now. Anyone with any experience in modelling will tell you that when you have so many unknown variables the output is complete rubbish.

I'm honestly not one bit surprised by this latest development. Nolan and his modelling crew have been wrong since the start and continued to be wrong all the way through. It's impossible to accurately model what they are trying to do and the worst part is the gombeens in government haven't got a collective brain cell between them to acknowledge this.

Dyr · 28-06-2021 10:09PM

How the **** is anyone still taking NPHET seriously at this stage? Apparently these gowls know something that the rest of Europe doesn't

Pure arse covering regardless of the cost to the country.

PTH2009 · 28-06-2021 10:11PM

**** sakes

We're a shambles

namloc1980 · 28-06-2021 10:12PM

If this is the advice they are dishing out in summer time with hardly anyone in hospital with Covid, we're nailed on for a NPHET lockdown for winter. I mean they're predicting end of the world scenarios for January.

JRant · 28-06-2021 10:12PM

gozunda wrote: »

I think you might find that the clue is in the name

National Public Health Emergency Team

Nphets remit from day one has been to advise on public health in relation to Covid. It is then up to the government to take into consideration of any business, tourism, education, mental health or social issues.

Interestingly Ireland had significant amount of debt long before Covid. And no country in Europe has avoided incurring significant additional debt over the last 18 months, Ireland included.

And no other country in Europe has added as much to their national debt as we have so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.

the kelt · 28-06-2021 10:13PM

Ye are all doom mongers, only people talking about restrictions not being eased are those on here, coming up with doomsday scenarios, ha ha, ye are all just misery merchants, restrictions are easing, vaccines are being distributed, we are following the uk, when we have the numbers vaccinated things will open up, anyone thinking things won’t open up are conspiracy theorists coming up with wild stories about NPHET will ruin things for them etc

Blah, blah, blah, blah

That’s pretty much this thread for the past few weeks and here we have recommendations to practically write of the rest of the summer tonight.

There was one poster laughed at for suggesting it not long ago, the other fella that was laughed at suggested no indoor dining for entirely of 2021, personally I won’t lie, I thought it was a bat **** crazy prediction myself, now I’m not so sure.

I don’t know, this is bonkers, I mean what’s the point of vaccines, why bother?

Is the july 19 travel digital green cert going to go ahead at this stage even?

Even those in favour of restrictions here never thought this was coming because the data and numbers doesn’t back it up.

It’s bonkers, truly mind boggling.

daydorunrun · 28-06-2021 10:13PM

Where’s all the wise guy’s who regularly post in here telling people to stop being negative and we are open as a country? The ones that keep saying it’s better here than in Europe because they had a curfew at night for a few months while we didn’t (because everywhere here was closed and it was the depths of winter on a cold damp rock in the Atlantic Ocean- hence people don’t need to be told to stay in)
The people here who predicted this kind of ****e would happen were ridiculed for wallowing in negativity when they could just see this coming. We have just learned how ducked up things have become in a country now governed by an unelected, risk obsessed, autocratic civil servants.

Sickening.

28-06-2021 10:14PM

opinionated3 wrote: »

This has actually hit me hard for some reason. My head is wrecked. Anger, sadness, frustration. Feeling so sorry for those working in tourism, hospitality etc. I'd love to say there's brighter days ahead but as a country we seem paralysed. Before you know it the summer will be over. Life can be brutally short folks, and these guys are playing games with ours while they sit in their ivory towers on big salaries.

And what angers me the most, is that Irish people will just keep accepting this sorry state of affairs. Piss poor leaders is what we have, and there's not even a viable alternative. Watching thousands of maskless football fans doing the Mexican wave in Bucharest has briefly lifted my spirits though. It's all so tragic and unnecessary to delay things any further.

CruelSummer · 28-06-2021 10:14PM

If the Government accept this fairytale modelling from NPHET, it is time to protest as a nation. Be it drive be, distance and live streamed, whatever it takes. We can all see the data from the U.K. No way should any of us accept this utter farcical rubbish. This has to end & the Government have failed to Govern.

JRant · 28-06-2021 10:14PM

Level 42 wrote: »

They will always go with NPHET after their solo disaster in january-no balls

It wasn't even a solo run. The government were told cases could climb as high as 1,600 a day in January by NPHET so they took a calculated risk that in the end didn't pay off.

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI Read OP For Mod Warnings