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Lions Tour

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  • Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wyn Jones looks grand


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Van der Merwe is a defensive liability.
    SA won't care about his attacking threat but they'll fancy a go down that side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,814 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Wyn Jones looks grand

    Yeah they showed him in the stands with the rest of the players earlier in the second half and he was holding his arm a little awkwardly but certainly didn't look like he was in a lot of pain or anything.

    Hopefully was just a stinger


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 9,178 ✭✭✭fitz


    Wyn Jones looks grand

    Yeah, you'd hope it's not the end of the tour for him, but I wouldn't be surprised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭Blackheath


    AWJ looks positive and in good form at the end any sign of Tipuric at the end


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,431 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Thought all the Irish contingent played well. But Conan, Henshaw and Aki all played especially well. Hopefully Conan's injury isn't too serious. One or two more performances of that quality and he'll be threatening Faletau's starting spot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭RugbyLover123


    It was a Twitter vote and it was up at like 50 minutes into the game.

    Only 3 options. Biggar, Beirne & VDM.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭phily2002


    Clegg wrote: »
    Thought all the Irish contingent played well. But Conan, Henshaw and Aki all played especially well. Hopefully Conan's injury isn't too serious. One or two more performances of that quality and he'll be threatening Faletau's starting spot.

    Yeah Conan was class, Faletau didn't look great, he seems to have lost a bit of aggression in defense, his tackling was soft and even in the 6 nations he was run over a few times.
    Simmonds also has a big chance to get a look in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,431 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Virgin are also reporting a dislocated shoulder for AWJ.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,404 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Clegg wrote: »
    Virgin are also reporting a dislocated shoulder for AWJ.
    Yeah, he's pretty much done according to Gatland. Will be scanned, but they'll be looking for a replacement.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Wyn Jones looks grand
    Why, what happened to Wyn Jones? Alun Wyn didn't look to bad though. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭yerrahbah


    Absolutely gutted for AWJ.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,152 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Gutting for Alun Wyn and a blow to the Lions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭TRC10


    So so gutted for AWJ.

    Fully deserved the chance to lead the Lions on tour.

    He was on track to play in 12 consecutive tests, which would have been out of this world in the pro era.

    Huge loss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭TRC10


    Jonny Gray couldn't have timed that try better


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    TRC10 wrote: »
    Jonny Gray couldn't have timed that try better

    Whilst JG and Ryan are the clear frontrunners, could see Gatland rethinking things and selecting another back row player rather than a replacement lock. They're very well stocked in the second row even with AWJ gone. They have two opensides with injury issues now and no dedicated blindside.

    There are only 5 matches before the first test. Itoje and Hill haven't joined up and need game time. They'll need to cement a new partnership at lock quickly.

    I wouldn't bet against guys like Stander or Navidi being in with a very good shot of a call up to replace AWJ as overall cover. I'm not sure Gatland sees anyone else as a realistic test option ahead of guys already there.

    If he follows the same selection approach in terms of player style and goes with a lock, Jake Ball is a left field option. Gatland selected him regularly and he's 120kg+. Very much in the Johnny Hill mould.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭TRC10


    Buer wrote: »
    Whilst JG and Ryan are the clear frontrunners, could see Gatland rethinking things and selecting another back row player rather than a replacement lock. They're very well stocked in the second row even with AWJ gone. They have two opensides with injury issues now and no dedicated blindside.

    There are only 5 matches before the first test. Itoje and Hill haven't joined up and need game time. They'll need to cement a new partnership at lock quickly.

    I wouldn't bet against guys like Stander or Navidi being in with a very good shot of a call up to replace AWJ as overall cover. I'm not sure Gatland sees anyone else as a realistic test option ahead of guys already there.

    If he follows the same selection approach in terms of player style and goes with a lock, Jake Ball is a left field option. Gatland selected him regularly and he's 120kg+. Very much in the Johnny Hill mould.

    It had crossed my mind. But I'm not sure about that.

    Beirne is going to be used purely at 6. And although he came on at lock today due to injury, I can see Lawes being the other 6 and it being a straight shootout between him and Beirne. Can't see Curry being played at 6, I think it's clear what type of 6 Gatland wants and Curry doesn't fit the bill.

    There's lots of cover at 7 and 8 with three players in each position.

    That leaves just Itoje, Hill and Henderson as the locks. And you need at least 4 so you can rotate between weekend and midweek

    It would be a shift in mindset from Gatland if he now decided he was going to use Beirne or Lawes as a lock and select a smaller 6. And I don't see that happening. He knows the game he wants to play to beat SA and I don't think one injury will make him change his mindset.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭roverjoyce


    I wonder does George Kruis come into consideration
    Lion from 4 years ago and can run a line out for the mid week team


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭Blackheath


    Cowan Dickie is out of the Lions tour. Baxter has confirmed that he will miss out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,209 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Adam Beard??

    Ah here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    Adam beard over James Ryan or Gray!! What the actual ****!!!

    On another note; Murray is now the tour captain :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,278 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Conor Murray is the new captain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,255 ✭✭✭eigrod


    Delighted for Conor Murray. What a great honour. Good luck Conor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,997 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    Murray new captain


  • Posts: 20,606 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Burkie1203 wrote: »

    That's astonishing if true. Absurd.

    If Cowan Dickie is out I suspect Kelleher is in for a call up but given the first two replacements who knows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    Navidi for Tipuric is completely understandable but Adam beard for Jones!!! Really. That’s mind boggling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    OUTRAGE


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,278 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Adam Beard??

    Ah here.

    Welsh quota had to be maintained!:)

    Maybe Gatland couldn't listen to any more of McBryde and Townsend batting for Ryan and Gray and decided to take neither of them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭yerrahbah


    Wow, how far down the list is James Ryan?

    I guess he just doesn't have what Gatland is looking for in a lock


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