Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

It’s like cats fighting in a sack around here atm. Everyone so ****ing fatigued from restrictions and the outlook being as clear as mud from the Govt. on how we get out of them.

zackory wrote: »

Yes, please show me the memo where they announced "lockdown is over now that intercounty travel is allowed"

The second part of the bit within the quotation marks indicates the first bit. You can keep asking but nothing will change.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2021/0624/1231112-denmark-fans-infected-with-delta-variant-at-euros-game/

We'll never hear the end of this

gazzer wrote: »

Crowds of people huddled together on the likes of Capel and Parliament St last week and the week before (I was one of them) and no jump in cases.

I know it's harder to catch Covid outdoors but there was absolutely no social distancing yet Nephet want to delay indoor dining and drinking even though all safety conditions will be met. It's absolutely disgusting. They really take us for idiots

There was indeed - against all public health advice and without any "safety conditions" at all.
You'd nearly think some people didn't give a fiddlers.

But perhaps I'm wrong - maybe this was some type of spontaneous, selfless and altruistic experiment to test whether there would be a "jump in cases"?

Very good of you btw.

Caveat. yes we know that outdoor transmission is less of a risk but we also know that crowded situations where social distancing is not possible or not observed increases that risk.

Thing about a "jump in cases" is that it depends on a number of things - no least that those who get sick, get sick enough to have symptoms and those that have symptoms go get tested.

And we know In younger age groups are less likley to get seriously sick. Now that doesn't all younger people won't get sick. Some may but in smaller numbers - but that doesn't stop individuals passing said disease on to others (including other younger people) who may not be so lucky or perhaps are not fully vaccinated.

As to a "jump in cases". Over the last four months we've had a near constant background noise of relatively high case numbers - despite all other metrics falling.

We know vaccination is driving down those numbers - but increased socialisation and frankly a small number of eejits who dont give a damn means that we are still on the watch list of a number of countries including the US who detail that there is "a high level of COVID-19" circulating here.

We already have outdoor drinking and eating - so its not like we're all being deprived. And yes both indoor drinking and eating with all safety measures has been scheduled to restart in July.

But to your final point - yes there are "idiots" out there for sure.

PTH2009 wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2021/0624/1231112-denmark-fans-infected-with-delta-variant-at-euros-game/

We'll never hear the end of this

30,000 weren't infected. RTE doing their best to keep the fear going. It's been very lucrative for them from increased advertising.

namloc1980 wrote: »

30,000 weren't infected. RTE doing their best to keep the fear going. It's been very lucrative for them from increased advertising.

Read the story, all they've done is relay what Danish officials have said.
That's it.
No conspiracy.
No hype.
No hysteria.

Except when people want to see it, like yourself.

Technically speaking lockdown is a restriction policy for depriving people of free movement and interaction with others.

Red Silurian wrote: »

You should add in, thereby slowing down the transmission of an infectious disease.They didn't lock us down for giggles

The reason why they did it is irrelevant to the definition itself.
It will be different for a prison and for a pandemic, yet the same definition and underlying principles apply.

We know vaccination is driving down those numbers - but increased socialisation and frankly a small number of eejits who dont give a damn means that we are still on the watch list of a number of countries including the US who detail that there is "a high level of COVID-19" circulating here.

What increased socialistion? Those crowds are no bigger now than they were months ago. Before that there were house parties. I'd imagine a fair few in the party scene have immunity by now.

Outdoor transmissions appears to be practically nil. 'Social distancing' is only theoretical and unenforceable, its wholly voluntary.

PTH2009 wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2021/0624/1231112-denmark-fans-infected-with-delta-variant-at-euros-game/

We'll never hear the end of this

29 cases from 3 matches is nothing.

A tame house party would give you the same.

walus wrote: »

It will be different for a prison and for a pandemic, yet the same definition and underlying principles apply.

It was spontaneously borrowed from prison slang to describe a new state of affairs, its not some piece of medical jargon so odd to see people getting so precious over the term.

As some Indian politician said, "Lockdowns are entirely the creation of Xi Jingping."

Hurrache wrote: »

Read the story, all they've done is relay what Danish officials have said.
That's it.
No conspiracy.
No hype.
No hysteria.

Except when people want to see it, like yourself.

Why are they even relaying it? Do we get full stories on 2 or 3 cases from other countries or events in other parts of the world that make the front page of the RTE website? It's very much hype. 3 fooking cases in another EU state is now worthy of front page news! Get up the yard. Meanwhile the BBC website is reporting 140,000 crowd will be at the British GP.

Hurrache wrote: »

Pods are there only in name at this stage, their actual implementation is all but gone.

You have evidence to support this? Pods still in place in all the schools in our locality as per DoE guidance. Thankfully the kids get a break from it this week.

walus wrote: »

The reason why they did it is irrelevant to the definition itself.
It will be different for a prison and for a pandemic, yet the same definition and underlying principles apply.

I'd more define lockdown to be a state of isolation or restricted access instituted as a security measure rather than a restriction policy

As for as fot the part in your description about depriving people of free movement and interaction with others you've effectively defined country borders, prisons, airport secure zones and pub smoking areas amongst many other things so it's a bit of a wide ranging description

Also your definition is designed to stoke fear in people, no better than some of the news companies out there