Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

seamus wrote: »

Mad to see how far off the deep end some people have gone. This time last year the same people were claiming that vaccines were years away and we needed to open up and just give in because we can't stay locked down forever.

Nightclubs and indoor gigs will be open before the end of the year. They may have some element of restricted head counts, but as always in Ireland, this will slowly be ignored more and more until everyone forgets that it even exists.

The only real vestiges of Covid in Ireland in 2022 will be getting your cert for foreign travel and cranks on the radio talking about vaccinating children. And the odd headline about another new variant in some faraway land.

Dept of Education want pods/restrictions in schools for the next school year. That'll be parts of/most of 3 academic years our kids will be dealing with this shiite.

namloc1980 wrote: »

Dept of Education want pods/restrictions in schools for the next school year. That'll be parts of/most of 3 academic years our kids will be dealing with this shiite.

Considering that no children will be vaccinated by that point, it seems like a sensible move to call out that these measures may be continuing next year in case some people expect everything to be back to normal in two months' time.

The imposition of pods, distancing and masks in school has had very little impact on kids.

MrMiyagi12345 wrote: »

No. Briefly caught the end of Morning Ireland there. Had some NPHET shill on, Mary Xavier. According to her "the vast majority of the population wouldn't mind putting opening up back another 3 weeks not to let the health service go under the pressure it was under in January"

Poor Alexa nearly got thrown out the window. They are lying, deceitful snakes.

She's a member of NPHET

Laying the ground work for next week's NPHET recommendations

Delay by 2 to 3 weeks = more vaccinations and Martin and Co will agree to that

"“Another three weeks would give us another million doses, which would take us from 3.5m to 4.5m doses, which would make a really substantial difference. At this point, it is all about getting vaccines in arms and an additional two or three weeks would make a very substantial difference,” Dr Favier said on RTÉ’s Morning Ireland.

“The feeling on the ground, and this would be the feeling of many General Practitioners, is that vaccination saves lives. If it’s two to three more weeks so that we can prevent ever having our health service in the same circumstances it was back in January, or ever having that many deaths again or ever going into another lockdown, I think the sentiment out there would be that we would delay.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/many-gps-want-indoor-reopening-delayed-by-several-weeks-over-delta-variant-concerns-nphet-member-40575233.html

Always love the argument to prevent lockdown just don't open up for another 2 to 3 weeks

Then it will be don't open up as we need the schools back similar to last year

Anyone see the go to Moaner in chief Noel Anderson from the LVA on virgin media news last evening. I was curious about his fetching Tan and wondered whilst he was on his typical whinge fest, insincere concern for employee's, the appalling affect delayed reopening might have etc etc, he wasn't asked if he was on holiday very recently during this torrid time and if so did he enjoy himself, one assumes a staycation is probably beneath him, his comments regarding the rain and customers not wanting to dine outside was curious and I'm not entirely sure very sincere given he clearly hasn't been too concerned about rain recently.

Hurrache wrote: »

Can't tone something down that wasn't being hyped in the first place. Questions being asked and discussed does not hype make.

This thread is both increasingly funny and sad. It's a virtual example of mass hysteria, people hyping themselves and others up over something that they think may happen, not things that are actually happening. Calls for public revolt and disorder over something they're imagining.

It's like that mad bloke who sits near your in a bus audibly arguing imagined scenarios in his head, you might get a bit of entertainment out of it, but you're aware that any sensible input will just drive them madder.

But its not hysteria the government have form in this regard and people are anxious given their past performances.
They are playing with people's livelihoods, freedoms and emotions. So many activities and events have been booked on the back of opening up on the 5th. If they renege on this with hospital figures so low and vaccinations demand out striping supply they will not be thanked.

zackory wrote: »

And here you are moaning away.

Not moaning as such, bemused actually, sanctimonious sermons from a representative who cares less about anything but the bottom line, hardily enhances credibility, let's not forget this is the person caught live on air regarding service of alcohol during an extremely unsavory incident. Getting tiresome listening to the same cohort of industry representatives talking complete S****

Drifter50 wrote: »

Derby Day at the Curragh on Saturday. The 2nd year I can't go in my memory. Watching soccer at the euros this week and packed stadiums but we are only allowed 1000 spectators.
Madness, an outdoor event scattered over a large rural area, what harm really. Anyway tickets sold out in 10 mins. We managed to get 1 in the house so the 4 of us tossed a coin for the winner and the wife won
Another day, get some cans watch TV, whatever. Sick of this

Thing is in many of the countries hosting the Euros - I reckon there's been a lot of appeasing the mob mentality going on and some countries now paying the price apparently.

https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/europe/who-concerned-about-eased-virus-restrictions-for-euro-2020-1.1246948

But yeah the Euros where we have players hugging and kissing in the middle of pitch. Not a eyebrow batted. And then we have individual jockeys on horseback wearing face coverings - laregely because all too often horse racing is often an easy target for the outraged.

Thing is at least there's some parity between sporting events here and we know that attendences will increase going forward. I'll be watching the racing on the telly myself.

zackory wrote: »

And I am sure it saved a few hundred lives, and when nearly everybody else is vaccinated in September, it will save even more lives.

During the blitz children were evacuated from cities, during covid our kids stayed in pods at school.

Yay! Someone comparing these times to WW2. It's been a while. That things were worse during a war (a war that nobody on this site has any experience/memory of) has ZERO to do with the current situation.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That's a bit of a bizarre leap

In what sense? This chap has been virgin media's go to moaner in chief, he does an interview lamenting the fact customers don't want to dine, drink out side whilst glowing with TAN clearly not obtained in Ireland, the only brief time he disappeared off the airwaves was the incident on South William Street a few months ago. He was also cheerleader in chief demonising PUP recepients, yet he along with many employers dropped staff like bad habits rather than retain staff on wage subsidy schemes.

I certainly don't begrudge anyone a holiday but certainly question this chaps sincerity.

Dempo1 wrote: »

Anyone see the go to Moaner in chief Noel Anderson from the LVA on virgin media news last evening. I was curious about his fetching Tan and wondered whilst he was on his typical whinge fest, insincere concern for employee's, the appalling affect delayed reopening might have etc etc, he wasn't asked if he was on holiday very recently during this torrid time and if so did he enjoy himself, one assumes a staycation is probably beneath him, his comments regarding the rain and customers not wanting to dine outside was curious and I'm not entirely sure very sincere given he clearly hasn't been too concerned about rain recently.

Man with tan expressing concerns about customers not wanting to dine outside in the rain not very sincere because man has tan.

Ok then!

zackory wrote: »

Sunbeds?

Actually he does look the type that would

“ Dr Favier said: “If we are in the same position next week as we are today, it will be an easier decision but if the numbers continue to deteriorate, that will be problematic.”

What numbers exactly are deteriorating? Aren’t we ahead of NPHETs worst case projections for reopening ?
Easy decision so .