Cycle infrastructure planned for south Dublin

Seaswimmer · 21-06-2021 01:49PM

Rumour has it that DLR councillors voted by a small margin in favour of the active travel proposal to make Deansgrange road one way southbound past the cemetery on a trial basis to install a 2 way cycleway. . I cant find anything on the the council website. Just saw it on one of the residents WhatsApp groups so not sure how accurate it is or whether it will let the trial go ahead if true

edit.
Slight correction. looks like a motion was put forward to request the chief executive to ensure 2 way traffic was maintained along Deansgrange road. The motion was defeated so I guess good news for the potential cycleway.

See attached screenshot

helimachoptor · 21-06-2021 02:27PM

CramCycle wrote: »

Dear lord, coming out of the NCT centre in Deansgrange this morning. They have those wanded off bike lanes. As I came out the junction, all was lovely, I stopped as a mother and two kids rolled through, cars were being nice realising no one was losing anything by leaving yellow boxes clear etc. In fact having often been around there at that time, at this time of year, traffic was smooth and consistent compared to a few years ago. Then when I got a clear space to come out, what do I see except a f*cking Nissan Micra in the bike lane, inside the wands, skipping traffic. Of course he probably does this daily but the shear b*llixology of it all.

I live around the corner from that, and tbh i've seen bigger cars use the bike lane :pac:

MojoMaker · 21-06-2021 03:31PM

You mean two wheels in the bike lane and two wheels on the pavement? There's hardly room there to squeeze a car inside the wands?

daragh_ · 21-06-2021 05:19PM

MojoMaker wrote: »

You mean two wheels in the bike lane and two wheels on the pavement? There's hardly room there to squeeze a car inside the wands?

Yeah I'm confused by that as well. I can't see how you would get a car inside there?

helimachoptor · 21-06-2021 06:03PM

It narrows down at the nct centre, seen a Mondeo in it about 3 weeks ago

ARX · 21-06-2021 07:30PM

helimachoptor wrote: »

It narrows down at the nct centre, seen a Mondeo in it about 3 weeks ago

I'll see your Mondeo and raise you a 7.5 tonne flatbed lorry in the Blackrock contra-flow cycle lane :pac:

AndrewJRenko · 21-06-2021 07:52PM

Seaswimmer wrote: »

Rumour has it that DLR councillors voted by a small margin in favour of the active travel proposal to make Deansgrange road one way southbound past the cemetery on a trial basis to install a 2 way cycleway. . I cant find anything on the the council website. Just saw it on one of the residents WhatsApp groups so not sure how accurate it is or whether it will let the trial go ahead if true

edit.
Slight correction. looks like a motion was put forward to request the chief executive to ensure 2 way traffic was maintained along Deansgrange road. The motion was defeated so I guess good news for the potential cycleway.

See attached screenshot

One name missing from the 'voted for' list on that screenshot. Would be good to know who to say thanks to.

Effects · 22-06-2021 11:38AM

ARX wrote: »

I'll see your Mondeo and raise you a 7.5 tonne flatbed lorry in the Blackrock contra-flow cycle lane :pac:

I've seen bin lorries use that one in the past as well.

Heraclius · 22-06-2021 11:41AM

Effects wrote: »

I've seen bin lorries use that one in the past as well.

Has anyone seen the gardaí stop anyone doing that? It sounds pretty shocking.

ARX · 22-06-2021 12:03PM

Heraclius wrote: »

Has anyone seen the gardaí stop anyone doing that? It sounds pretty shocking.

Let's just say that 'An Garda Síochána' means 'Guardian of the Peace', not 'Guardian of the Law'.

Heraclius · 22-06-2021 12:04PM

ARX wrote: »

Let's just say that 'An Garda Síochána' means 'Guardian of the Peace', not 'Guardian of the Law'.

Haha. I feel behaviour like that really deserves a crackdown.

markpb · 22-06-2021 12:16PM

Heraclius wrote: »

Haha. I feel behaviour like that really deserves a crackdown.

You have to understand that when they park on the cycle lane, they're doing their best as fine, upstanding citizens to keep the traffic flowing. This is the priority for AGS so they don't and won't see any problem with it. In fact, they should be commended. Imagine if they parked outside the cycle lane and a motorist had to cross the centre-line to overtake them!?

Seaswimmer · 22-06-2021 12:28PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

One name missing from the 'voted for' list on that screenshot. Would be good to know who to say thanks to.

I think the "voted against" are the people we need to thank. There are 10 names on there??

Seth Brundle · 24-06-2021 10:27AM

https://twitter.com/wwywwwgh/status/1407959695151796227

Fighting Tao · 24-06-2021 10:36AM

Thread on how Dublin Bay South candidates stand on Strand Road trial: https://twitter.com/dublincycling/status/1407752108019965959?s=21

Heraclius · 24-06-2021 11:37AM

markpb wrote: »

You have to understand that when they park on the cycle lane, they're doing their best as fine, upstanding citizens to keep the traffic flowing. This is the priority for AGS so they don't and won't see any problem with it. In fact, they should be commended. Imagine if they parked outside the cycle lane and a motorist had to cross the centre-line to overtake them!?

Heaven forfend! Sadly you're probably right. I hope over time attitudes change though. People accepted seatbelts and eventually drink driving became less acceptable.

tomasrojo · 24-06-2021 11:41AM

tomasrojo wrote: »

Lost in thought, working out how to get the boots of the middle class off the necks of the stout-hearted working-class residents of coastal Sandymount

https://twitter.com/Database2000/status/1407737997357989894

ARX · 24-06-2021 11:53AM

tomasrojo wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Database2000/status/1407737997357989894

Yes, not a woman nor a child has been seen on the Blackrock-Sandycove path.

Seth Brundle · 24-06-2021 11:55AM

ARX wrote: »

Yes, not a woman nor a child has been seen on the Blackrock-Sandycove path.

Or both upper and lower class men

Fighting Tao · 24-06-2021 12:03PM

How do I know what class I fit into?

magicbastarder · 24-06-2021 12:05PM

if you're posting on this forum, you're clearly middle class. going by mannix flynn's logic, this is a trivial conclusion.

tomasrojo · 24-06-2021 12:05PM

Fighting Tao wrote: »

How do I know what class I fit into?

If you support something Mannix Flynn opposes, you are middle class. I think that's how it works.

cgcsb · 24-06-2021 12:09PM

If you are a working/middle class man or woman aged under 26 you're unlikely to able to afford a car and therefore rely more heavily on a bicycle. It costs 3 to 5 grand for a first time driver to get insurance.

Not sure what a middle class person is anymore since the middle classes can no longer afford to house themselves.

tomasrojo · 24-06-2021 12:18PM

I seem to remember that people who habitually cycle are on average more likely to be middle class than people who habitually drive or habitually use public transport, and this was explained by middle class people being less encumbered by the fear of looking "poor". I can't remember where I saw it now though.

The prevalence of men in everyday cycling seems to be down to the road environment being "challenging", so if anything infrastructure such as that which Flynn is opposing is to do with increasing female participation in everyday cycling.

Certainly, the bits of Dublin I know that have had kerbs and wands added or been closed to through-traffic seem to have larger variety of cyclists now.
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magicbastarder · 24-06-2021 12:20PM

yeah, it's a classic case of criticising the idea for the very thing it's designed to address.

Thelonious Monk · 24-06-2021 12:23PM

It's mad how they have convinced everyone only the elites cycle to work and the hard pressed working poor are the ones driving cars. There are so many who drive that could live without a car but they still allow themselves to be crippled financially by them, plenty of people I know anyway.

buffalo · 24-06-2021 12:26PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

if you're posting on this forum, you're clearly middle class. going by mannix flynn's logic, this is a trivial conclusion.

And we're all men I presume? Certain posters will not be pleased!

Thelonious Monk · 24-06-2021 12:38PM

Weepsie wrote: »

I'd be interested in the next census, to know, if it records it, how many women are now cycling because to my entirely anecdotal experience, there has been something of an explosion in women cycling.

Yes I agree with this, around where I live I swear I see more women than men cycling these days. I think it is becoming almost trendy for women, in a good way, so hopefully it keeps up.

magicbastarder · 24-06-2021 12:46PM

buffalo wrote: »

And we're all men I presume? Certain posters will not be pleased!

not just Mamils now, we're McMamils.

Thelonious Monk · 24-06-2021 12:53PM

buffalo wrote: »

And we're all men I presume? Certain posters will not be pleased!

Good point, has a woman ever posted in the cycling forum?! It's probably 90% men on this whole site anyway.

Cycle infrastructure planned for south Dublin

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