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Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

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  • #4772
    White Clover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,020 ✭✭✭White Clover


    orm0nd wrote: »
    Always kept sheep here along side dairy cows. And took some sh1t on here and other forums.

    Management is the key and no 2 farms are the same and I wouldn't tell anyone how to run theirs and expect the same in return.

    I wouldn't say I was telling anyone how to run their farms, just merely stating that I found block grazing and back fencing to be beneficial to grass growth.


  • #4773
    straight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,069 ✭✭✭straight


    Got a carbon intensity figure on my milk statement today. 1.06.


  • #4774
    jonopat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 ✭jonopat


    Is this level of production possible on grazed grass and that amount of ration?
    https://twitter.com/Aiden_C7/status/1405180123071094784?s=19


  • #4775
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,910 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    jonopat wrote: »
    Is this level of production possible on grazed grass and that amount of ration?
    https://twitter.com/Aiden_C7/status/1405180123071094784?s=19

    Fourth lactation cow ….yeadh def possible


  • #4776
    alps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,312 ✭✭✭alps


    straight wrote: »
    Got a carbon intensity figure on my milk statement today. 1.06.

    Whatvdoes that signify? I guess its a marketing measurement..

    The dail made sure last night that you can discount it as a measure of your environmental effort..


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  • #4777
    orm0nd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,369 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    White Clover wrote: »
    I wouldn't say I was telling anyone how to run their farms, just merely stating that I found block grazing and back fencing to be beneficial to grass growth.

    I wasn't referring to you specifically ( sorry if it came across as such )

    I agree with you totally re block grazing and back fencing. If you search my posts in the sheep forum they will verify same.

    We never allow sheep in longer than 48 hours after the cows. and includes closing for the winter.


    It took us years to perfect the system and get the infrastructure in place anyhow I promise not to mention the white vermin any more in the dairy thread


  • #4778
    straight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,069 ✭✭✭straight


    alps wrote: »
    Whatvdoes that signify? I guess its a marketing measurement..

    The dail made sure last night that you can discount it as a measure of your environmental effort..

    I don't have a clue what it means. It's calculated from the questionnaire on my most recent bord bia inspection. I'm wondering is it about average or what


  • #4779
    degetme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 838 ✭✭✭degetme


    Mine was 1.02. Another load of bollox and a new stick to beat us with


  • #4780
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    degetme wrote: »
    Mine was 1.02. Another load of bollox and a new stick to beat us with

    More Carbon coming from the departments arse


  • #4781
    Base price
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,781 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    straight wrote: »
    I don't have a clue what it means. It's calculated from the questionnaire on my most recent bord bia inspection. I'm wondering is it about average or what
    Did your co-op or Bord Bia send you any prior communication as to what this figure is. It's very unprofessional of them that you see this figure on your milk statement without any explanation.


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  • #4782
    straight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,069 ✭✭✭straight


    Base price wrote: »
    Did your co-op or Bord Bia send you any prior communication as to what this figure is. It's very unprofessional of them that you see this figure on your milk statement without any explanation.

    I wouldn't expect any more from them to be honest.


  • #4783
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Growth fell off a cliff here, pegs nearly impossible to get into the ground. There is rain forecast but will take 50mm to properly turn it around here ha, so I'm stopping topping for the minute. Milking block sr is only 2.5cows/ha, that's our saving grace the minute.


  • #4784
    alps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,312 ✭✭✭alps


    degetme wrote: »
    Mine was 1.02. Another load of bollox and a new stick to beat us with

    How?


  • #4785
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,645 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    The thing I don't like is how everyone knows your business now.
    Bord bia do the inspections, get the photographs, know your purchases and then it's all shared with your milk buyers.


  • #4786
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,645 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    20210618-145725.jpg

    20210618-145803.jpg


  • #4787
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,645 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    It's not as rosy as farmers think it'll be.

    20210617-120509.jpg

    Granted there's different farming systems in Norway.


  • #4788
    alps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,312 ✭✭✭alps


    Say my name wrote: »
    The thing I don't like is how everyone knows your business now.
    Bord bia do the inspections, get the photographs, know your purchases and then it's all shared with your milk buyers.

    What's shared with your supplier? Outside of your pass/fail status, what else do they get?

    Bord Bia run an accreditation system. All business buyers of our product require either independent accreditation or buyer accreditation of the whole production system.

    I would be of the opinion that we are in a far better place having bord bia do our inspections rather than Danone or Nestle.


  • #4789
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,645 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Boron ..great for leafy grazing ground and drought proofing.
    Not great if you want silage stem bulk.

    Lesson learned.


  • #4790
    straight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,069 ✭✭✭straight


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Growth fell off a cliff here, pegs nearly impossible to get into the ground. There is rain forecast but will take 50mm to properly turn it around here ha, so I'm stopping topping for the minute. Milking block sr is only 2.5cows/ha, that's our saving grace the minute.

    Our grass group mentor says topping is cheating. Last resort in his opinion.


  • #4791
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,131 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    straight wrote: »
    Our grass group mentor says topping is cheating. Last resort in his opinion.
    Look if it works for you, who cares ?


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  • #4792
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,910 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    straight wrote: »
    Our grass group mentor says topping is cheating. Last resort in his opinion.

    Everyone to there own but I’m calling that bull**** ,if u have top top we all have to do it ,not doing if makes a bad situation worse ,wether u have to top or mow for bales every paddock needs to see a mower before end may snd again in July ,and top in June depending on weather etc


  • #4793
    straight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,069 ✭✭✭straight


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Everyone to there own but I’m calling that bull**** ,if u have top top we all have to do it ,not doing if makes a bad situation worse ,wether u have to top or mow for bales every paddock needs to see a mower before end may snd again in July ,and top in June depending on weather etc

    Mechanical removal he calls it. Last resort. Bales more ideal if you have to resort to mechanical removal. Ah he's full of guff anyway. U know yourself, tis all grand on paper.


  • #4794
    1373
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭1373


    Grass group mentor , what a title


  • #4795
    straight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,069 ✭✭✭straight


    1373 wrote: »
    Grass group mentor , what a title

    Don't set your sights so low lad.


  • #4796
    alps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,312 ✭✭✭alps


    Following a bit of an eye opening lesson over Christmas from a colleague regarding his profitability, we decided to feed far stronger this year than we normally would. (only way to find out was tondo it for ourselves)

    Our herd has a PD of minus 24 kg, so I would have been aprehensive about their capability to produce.

    I wont make any assertions as to what the eventual conclusions of this project will be, but by **** are they producing??

    Turned €11.76 / day for May at a feed input cost of €1.35..

    Excited to see what the figures from a full year will throw up..


  • #4797
    Mooooo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,577 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    alps wrote: »
    Following a bit of an eye opening lesson over Christmas from a colleague regarding his profitability, we decided to feed far stronger this year than we normally would. (only way to find out was tondo it for ourselves)

    Our herd has a PD of minus 24 kg, so I would have been aprehensive about their capability to produce.

    I wont make any assertions as to what the eventual conclusions of this project will be, but by **** are they producing??

    Turned €11.76 / day for May at a feed input cost of €1.35..

    Excited to see what the figures from a full year will throw up..

    Have you put in what it would look like at different milk and feed prices? Any difference in conception rates showing yet?


  • #4798
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,654 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Everyone to there own but I’m calling that bull**** ,if u have top top we all have to do it ,not doing if makes a bad situation worse ,wether u have to top or mow for bales every paddock needs to see a mower before end may snd again in July ,and top in June depending on weather etc

    No need for that level imo
    If any way at all on the ball with the grass once a year seeing a mower between topping/premowing/bales is fine

    We've 12 / 18 paddocks either topped or mowed for bales so far, 2 more are reseeds
    Rest we'll try mow for bales over the next couple of weeks
    Only needs to be corrected once


  • #4799
    Wildsurfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭Wildsurfer


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Everyone to there own but I’m calling that bull**** ,if u have top top we all have to do it ,not doing if makes a bad situation worse ,wether u have to top or mow for bales every paddock needs to see a mower before end may snd again in July ,and top in June depending on weather etc

    Is that a farm or a golf course you're running there mj! Would agree though I'm topping alot more than normal this year. Combination of poor growth and poor graze outs in May due to weather, followed by a burst of growth with a lot of N in grass to blame.


  • #4800
    cosatron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭cosatron


    We find pre mowing is very successful here. Being doing it for years, I know it’s not everyone’s cup of a tea and a bit more labor intensive but the cows love it and clean paddocks very well and we get a good regrowth as we don’t mow it to tight


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  • #4801
    ted_182
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭ted_182


    alps wrote: »
    Following a bit of an eye opening lesson over Christmas from a colleague regarding his profitability, we decided to feed far stronger this year than we normally would. (only way to find out was tondo it for ourselves)

    Our herd has a PD of minus 24 kg, so I would have been aprehensive about their capability to produce.

    I wont make any assertions as to what the eventual conclusions of this project will be, but by **** are they producing??

    Turned €11.76 / day for May at a feed input cost of €1.35..

    Excited to see what the figures from a full year will throw up..

    Whats far stronger? 4 kgs up from 1?


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