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Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,583 ✭✭✭White Clover


    orm0nd wrote: »
    Always kept sheep here along side dairy cows. And took some sh1t on here and other forums.

    Management is the key and no 2 farms are the same and I wouldn't tell anyone how to run theirs and expect the same in return.

    I wouldn't say I was telling anyone how to run their farms, just merely stating that I found block grazing and back fencing to be beneficial to grass growth.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,624 ✭✭✭straight


    Got a carbon intensity figure on my milk statement today. 1.06.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 jonopat


    Is this level of production possible on grazed grass and that amount of ration?
    https://twitter.com/Aiden_C7/status/1405180123071094784?s=19


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,116 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    jonopat wrote: »
    Is this level of production possible on grazed grass and that amount of ration?
    https://twitter.com/Aiden_C7/status/1405180123071094784?s=19

    Fourth lactation cow ….yeadh def possible


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭alps


    straight wrote: »
    Got a carbon intensity figure on my milk statement today. 1.06.

    Whatvdoes that signify? I guess its a marketing measurement..

    The dail made sure last night that you can discount it as a measure of your environmental effort..


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,185 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    I wouldn't say I was telling anyone how to run their farms, just merely stating that I found block grazing and back fencing to be beneficial to grass growth.

    I wasn't referring to you specifically ( sorry if it came across as such )

    I agree with you totally re block grazing and back fencing. If you search my posts in the sheep forum they will verify same.

    We never allow sheep in longer than 48 hours after the cows. and includes closing for the winter.


    It took us years to perfect the system and get the infrastructure in place anyhow I promise not to mention the white vermin any more in the dairy thread


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,624 ✭✭✭straight


    alps wrote: »
    Whatvdoes that signify? I guess its a marketing measurement..

    The dail made sure last night that you can discount it as a measure of your environmental effort..

    I don't have a clue what it means. It's calculated from the questionnaire on my most recent bord bia inspection. I'm wondering is it about average or what


  • Registered Users Posts: 767 ✭✭✭degetme


    Mine was 1.02. Another load of bollox and a new stick to beat us with


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    degetme wrote: »
    Mine was 1.02. Another load of bollox and a new stick to beat us with

    More Carbon coming from the departments arse


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,186 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    straight wrote: »
    I don't have a clue what it means. It's calculated from the questionnaire on my most recent bord bia inspection. I'm wondering is it about average or what
    Did your co-op or Bord Bia send you any prior communication as to what this figure is. It's very unprofessional of them that you see this figure on your milk statement without any explanation.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,624 ✭✭✭straight


    Base price wrote: »
    Did your co-op or Bord Bia send you any prior communication as to what this figure is. It's very unprofessional of them that you see this figure on your milk statement without any explanation.

    I wouldn't expect any more from them to be honest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Growth fell off a cliff here, pegs nearly impossible to get into the ground. There is rain forecast but will take 50mm to properly turn it around here ha, so I'm stopping topping for the minute. Milking block sr is only 2.5cows/ha, that's our saving grace the minute.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭alps


    degetme wrote: »
    Mine was 1.02. Another load of bollox and a new stick to beat us with

    How?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,228 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    The thing I don't like is how everyone knows your business now.
    Bord bia do the inspections, get the photographs, know your purchases and then it's all shared with your milk buyers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,228 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,228 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    It's not as rosy as farmers think it'll be.

    20210617-120509.jpg

    Granted there's different farming systems in Norway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭alps


    The thing I don't like is how everyone knows your business now.
    Bord bia do the inspections, get the photographs, know your purchases and then it's all shared with your milk buyers.

    What's shared with your supplier? Outside of your pass/fail status, what else do they get?

    Bord Bia run an accreditation system. All business buyers of our product require either independent accreditation or buyer accreditation of the whole production system.

    I would be of the opinion that we are in a far better place having bord bia do our inspections rather than Danone or Nestle.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,228 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Boron ..great for leafy grazing ground and drought proofing.
    Not great if you want silage stem bulk.

    Lesson learned.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,624 ✭✭✭straight


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Growth fell off a cliff here, pegs nearly impossible to get into the ground. There is rain forecast but will take 50mm to properly turn it around here ha, so I'm stopping topping for the minute. Milking block sr is only 2.5cows/ha, that's our saving grace the minute.

    Our grass group mentor says topping is cheating. Last resort in his opinion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,244 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    straight wrote: »
    Our grass group mentor says topping is cheating. Last resort in his opinion.
    Look if it works for you, who cares ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,116 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    straight wrote: »
    Our grass group mentor says topping is cheating. Last resort in his opinion.

    Everyone to there own but I’m calling that bull**** ,if u have top top we all have to do it ,not doing if makes a bad situation worse ,wether u have to top or mow for bales every paddock needs to see a mower before end may snd again in July ,and top in June depending on weather etc


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,624 ✭✭✭straight


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Everyone to there own but I’m calling that bull**** ,if u have top top we all have to do it ,not doing if makes a bad situation worse ,wether u have to top or mow for bales every paddock needs to see a mower before end may snd again in July ,and top in June depending on weather etc

    Mechanical removal he calls it. Last resort. Bales more ideal if you have to resort to mechanical removal. Ah he's full of guff anyway. U know yourself, tis all grand on paper.


  • Registered Users Posts: 529 ✭✭✭1373


    Grass group mentor , what a title


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,624 ✭✭✭straight


    1373 wrote: »
    Grass group mentor , what a title

    Don't set your sights so low lad.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭alps


    Following a bit of an eye opening lesson over Christmas from a colleague regarding his profitability, we decided to feed far stronger this year than we normally would. (only way to find out was tondo it for ourselves)

    Our herd has a PD of minus 24 kg, so I would have been aprehensive about their capability to produce.

    I wont make any assertions as to what the eventual conclusions of this project will be, but by **** are they producing??

    Turned €11.76 / day for May at a feed input cost of €1.35..

    Excited to see what the figures from a full year will throw up..


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    alps wrote: »
    Following a bit of an eye opening lesson over Christmas from a colleague regarding his profitability, we decided to feed far stronger this year than we normally would. (only way to find out was tondo it for ourselves)

    Our herd has a PD of minus 24 kg, so I would have been aprehensive about their capability to produce.

    I wont make any assertions as to what the eventual conclusions of this project will be, but by **** are they producing??

    Turned €11.76 / day for May at a feed input cost of €1.35..

    Excited to see what the figures from a full year will throw up..

    Have you put in what it would look like at different milk and feed prices? Any difference in conception rates showing yet?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Everyone to there own but I’m calling that bull**** ,if u have top top we all have to do it ,not doing if makes a bad situation worse ,wether u have to top or mow for bales every paddock needs to see a mower before end may snd again in July ,and top in June depending on weather etc

    No need for that level imo
    If any way at all on the ball with the grass once a year seeing a mower between topping/premowing/bales is fine

    We've 12 / 18 paddocks either topped or mowed for bales so far, 2 more are reseeds
    Rest we'll try mow for bales over the next couple of weeks
    Only needs to be corrected once


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,392 ✭✭✭Wildsurfer


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Everyone to there own but I’m calling that bull**** ,if u have top top we all have to do it ,not doing if makes a bad situation worse ,wether u have to top or mow for bales every paddock needs to see a mower before end may snd again in July ,and top in June depending on weather etc

    Is that a farm or a golf course you're running there mj! Would agree though I'm topping alot more than normal this year. Combination of poor growth and poor graze outs in May due to weather, followed by a burst of growth with a lot of N in grass to blame.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭cosatron


    We find pre mowing is very successful here. Being doing it for years, I know it’s not everyone’s cup of a tea and a bit more labor intensive but the cows love it and clean paddocks very well and we get a good regrowth as we don’t mow it to tight


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  • Registered Users Posts: 161 ✭✭ted_182


    alps wrote: »
    Following a bit of an eye opening lesson over Christmas from a colleague regarding his profitability, we decided to feed far stronger this year than we normally would. (only way to find out was tondo it for ourselves)

    Our herd has a PD of minus 24 kg, so I would have been aprehensive about their capability to produce.

    I wont make any assertions as to what the eventual conclusions of this project will be, but by **** are they producing??

    Turned €11.76 / day for May at a feed input cost of €1.35..

    Excited to see what the figures from a full year will throw up..

    Whats far stronger? 4 kgs up from 1?


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