PC Gaming, General & Off Topic Chat

MadYaker · 15-05-2021 2:22pm

Tried with the cable and bluetooth! I have now sourced an xbox 360 controller and associated cable which will hopefully work better.

ShadowHearth · 16-05-2021 9:01pm

Any idea if steam sale coming up soon?

Mr Crispy · 16-05-2021 9:10pm

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Any idea if steam sale coming up soon?

They normally have a Spring Clean event or something in the latter part of May, I think?

RobertFoster · 16-05-2021 9:24pm

Steam Open World Sale on 27 May 2021 followed by an unconfirmed summer sale ~June 24th.

E36Ross · 18-05-2021 4:22pm

Massive can of worms, But I just want a simple gaming PC.

Mainly play Forza, GTA and Farming Simulator.
Ideally something with half decent graphics and something I can download a few mods onto for GTA. Will venture online aswel.

Don't want to spend stupid money but considering a PS5 or xBox will be €500ish. Would a €1k budget get me a decent PC?

Assume the games are bought from steam? Is virus software needed if everything is downloaded from steam/safe websites?

And I assume I can hook my xbox controller up to it and run it on a standard TV?

Spear · 18-05-2021 4:38pm

E36Ross wrote: »

Massive can of worms, But I just want a simple gaming PC.

Mainly play Forza, GTA and Farming Simulator.
Ideally something with half decent graphics and something I can download a few mods onto for GTA. Will venture online aswel.

Don't want to spend stupid money but considering a PS5 or xBox will be €500ish. Would a €1k budget get me a decent PC?

Assume the games are bought from steam? Is virus software needed if everything is downloaded from steam/safe websites?

And I assume I can hook my xbox controller up to it and run it on a standard TV?

Yeah, it's a massive, if not infinitely sized can of worms right now.

Normally, the advise would be to build your own, but the insane prices for GPUs, if one can be found, and elevated prices on other parts, means that buying a pre-build is probably the more feasible option.

All PC video cards have display port and HDMI outputs, so connecting to a TV shouldn't be an issue.

And most XBox controllers should work fine, with some variation depending on whether a bluetooth adapter is needed.

You have a wide choice of stores to buy from, there's no need to restrict yourself to Steam. And plenty of free games from most stores, along with F2P titles.

€1000 is a bit border line, without compromising on some aspect of it. Squeezing that up to €1200 to €1300 would help ensure a balanced machine.

wotzgoingon · 18-05-2021 4:40pm

E36Ross wrote: »

Massive can of worms, But I just want a simple gaming PC.

Mainly play Forza, GTA and Farming Simulator.
Ideally something with half decent graphics and something I can download a few mods onto for GTA. Will venture online aswel.

Don't want to spend stupid money but considering a PS5 or xBox will be €500ish. Would a €1k budget get me a decent PC?

Assume the games are bought from steam? Is virus software needed if everything is downloaded from steam/safe websites?

And I assume I can hook my xbox controller up to it and run it on a standard TV?

Bad time to be looking for graphics card at a decent normal price.

A Xbox controller will do fine I use one myself and have done so for years.

I use a Tv for gaming also but a 24" monitor for general browsing and just switch over when gaming.

Yep steam is safe to use. I actually do not have any anti virus software for years and I do be on all sorts of websites so you should be fine on that front.

AlmightyCushion · 18-05-2021 6:06pm

E36Ross wrote: »

Massive can of worms, But I just want a simple gaming PC.

Mainly play Forza, GTA and Farming Simulator.
Ideally something with half decent graphics and something I can download a few mods onto for GTA. Will venture online aswel.

Don't want to spend stupid money but considering a PS5 or xBox will be €500ish. Would a €1k budget get me a decent PC?

Assume the games are bought from steam? Is virus software needed if everything is downloaded from steam/safe websites?

And I assume I can hook my xbox controller up to it and run it on a standard TV?

I just use Windows Defender that is built in to Window 10. If you were building yourself and you were able to get a GPU at RRP then €1,000 would be fine. The GPU is the real problem. Your chances of getting one are incredibly low. Getting one at RRP at not stupid money is even lower. Pre-built is probably the best way to go now but your money won't go as far.

E36Ross · 18-05-2021 6:16pm

Is something like this
https://m.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/8861980/Trail/searchtext%3EGaming+pc.htm

Really €400 odd less in terms of specs over this?

https://www.soundstore.ie/asus-rog-i5-10400-8gb-256gb-ssd-1tb-g15ckuk004t.html

From my naivety it looks to be the same processor, Cheaper one has more storage and more ram. I know the graphics card is a step below..... Im surely missing something obvious?

Homelander · 18-05-2021 6:46pm

The GTX1660 Super is much faster than the GTX1650.

This is about as good value as you get for a pre-built at this point.

i5-10400, 16GB Ram, GTX1660 Super, 1TB Nvme M2 hard drive. Decent case and power supply. €1162

I would act fast, it's really hard to get pre-builts these days for half decent prices due to the shortages.

https://www.pcspecialist.ie/computers-for-next-day-delivery/1234/

Spear · 18-05-2021 6:52pm

E36Ross wrote: »

Is something like this
https://m.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/8861980/Trail/searchtext%3EGaming+pc.htm

Really €400 odd less in terms of specs over this?

https://www.soundstore.ie/asus-rog-i5-10400-8gb-256gb-ssd-1tb-g15ckuk004t.html

From my naivety it looks to be the same processor, Cheaper one has more storage and more ram. I know the graphics card is a step below..... Im surely missing something obvious?

A 1660 super is about 60% faster than a 1650,so it's a significant difference, but that doesn't come close to justifying the price difference.

Both machines have less than 16GB RAM, which should be a target to reach.

Compare against options on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ADMI-Gaming-PC-3000MHz-Windows/dp/B077GS751Z/ref=sr_1_18?dchild=1&keywords=prebuilt+pc&qid=1621360267&sr=8-18

Glebee · 20-05-2021 4:39pm

Anyone pick up Days Gone yet, I presume its worth a spin.. Although still have to play Horizon Zero Dawn so might pick that up first.

dreamers75 · 20-05-2021 10:01pm

E36Ross wrote: »

Massive can of worms, But I just want a simple gaming PC.

How do you feel about religion? Do you think one of the many gods may give you one if you pray/sacrifice something?

Glebee wrote: »

Anyone pick up Days Gone yet, I presume its worth a spin.. Although still have to play Horizon Zero Dawn so might pick that up first.

Horizons was brilliant but unfortunately I played it pre patches/3080

There is a general okish plot but hidden in the "findables" is a really really good back story reasons/eventualities etc

Excellent game but I really liked the story and I rarely get arsed about it.

Skerries · 20-05-2021 11:02pm

two of the best PS4 exclusives and the reason why I always eventually pick up a Playstation to play these types of games

Robert ninja · 21-05-2021 11:03am

E36Ross wrote: »

Is virus software needed if everything is downloaded from steam/safe websites?

From steam and places like GOG etc you won't need virus suites. And this may be my unpopular opinion that others may challenge here but it's my advice that you never need anti-virus solutions that run 24/7 on a home desktop computer if you practice basic Internet hygiene like not opening strange email attachments/links, using and ad blocker etc.

24/7 commercial anti-virus suites are for business environments.

E36Ross wrote: »

And I assume I can hook my xbox controller up to it and run it on a standard TV?

Windows and steam have full support for all the major console controllers. Steam big picture will allow you to customise for things like turbo too but the menus for that can be a bit iffy.

Any HDTV will work with a any modern GPU. Unless you're wanting to reach high Hz or 4K you probably don't need to think about the HDMI cable version either.

Overheal · 21-05-2021 9:49pm

Paradox Interactive sale on Steam

Surviving Mars, Stellaris and Cities Skylines all on Free Weekend

22-05-2021 6:49am

Overheal wrote: »

Paradox Interactive sale on Steam

Surviving Mars, Stellaris and Cities Skylines all on Free Weekend

Victoria 3 also announced, and will be on Game Pass day 1 to boot.

E36Ross · 23-05-2021 11:34am

Spear wrote: »

A 1660 super is about 60% faster than a 1650,so it's a significant difference, but that doesn't come close to justifying the price difference.

Both machines have less than 16GB RAM, which should be a target to reach.

Compare against options on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ADMI-Gaming-PC-3000MHz-Windows/dp/B077GS751Z/ref=sr_1_18?dchild=1&keywords=prebuilt+pc&qid=1621360267&sr=8-18

Fair enough, Starting to make sense now as this is all new to me.

https://www.laptopsdirect.ie/medion-akoya-p67064-md35097-core-i5-10400-16gb-1tbssd-gtx-1660-super-window-10024144/version.asp

This seems to meet all the criteria?

16GB Ram
GTX 1660 Super Graphics
1TB SSD

What are Medion like as a brand?

ShadowHearth · 23-05-2021 12:06pm

I would personally go here and get the one for 1162eu.

3600
16gb ram
1tb ssd
1660 super

It's prebuilt, but it's prebuilt out of normal pc parts, so you will be able to upgrade stuff down the line and you will at least know what parts inside. Again, it's not ideal, but in my opinion, it's the lesser evil at this day and age.

Edit: sorry, like and idiot, I forgot to put link in.

https://www.pcspecialist.ie/computers-for-next-day-delivery/

MadYaker · 24-05-2021 4:56pm

MadYaker wrote: »

Tried with the cable and bluetooth! I have now sourced an xbox 360 controller and associated cable which will hopefully work better.

The quest to use an xbox controller on pc continues. Tried it with a cable but apparently what I need is actually a wireless receiver because the cable is just for charging? This is great.

wotzgoingon · 24-05-2021 5:10pm

MadYaker wrote: »

The quest to use an xbox controller on pc continues. Tried it with a cable but apparently what I need is actually a wireless receiver because the cable is just for charging? This is great.

Oh so you have a Xbox 360 controller. I have been using a Xbox One controller for years. All you need is a micro usb cable or a usb c cable depending on which Xbox One controller you have early or late model.

MadYaker · 24-05-2021 5:52pm

I tried an xbox one controller already it didn't work.

wotzgoingon · 24-05-2021 6:39pm

MadYaker wrote: »

I tried an xbox one controller already it didn't work.

Something wrong there. I only use a Xbox controller for gaming on PC and have done so for years with out any issues. It is probably the only controller you can get for PC that works straight out of the box. Plug it in with usb cable and PC will find it and download the driver automatically.

Glebee · 24-05-2021 6:48pm

Something not right, I only use xbox controllers as well and they work straight away when you connect them.

Taylor365 · 24-05-2021 6:50pm

MadYaker wrote: »

I tried an xbox one controller already it didn't work.

Did you connect via cable and download the updates required? I had bt controller dropping signal, buttons settings being wrong etc. until i connect and downloaded firmware updates.

MadYaker · 25-05-2021 2:55am

Taylor365 wrote: »

Did you connect via cable and download the updates required? I had bt controller dropping signal, buttons settings being wrong etc. until i connect and downloaded firmware updates.

I’ve given up to be honest. I’ve spent about €30 getting the 360 controller and cable after the xb one controller wouldn’t work via Bluetooth or usb. I’m not wasting any more time or money. I only wanted it for one game that I bought on steam which somehow doesn’t work with a mouse and kb.

25-05-2021 12:06pm

MadYaker wrote: »

I’ve given up to be honest. I’ve spent about €30 getting the 360 controller and cable after the xb one controller wouldn’t work via Bluetooth or usb. I’m not wasting any more time or money. I only wanted it for one game that I bought on steam which somehow doesn’t work with a mouse and kb.

That's annoying. Also had a wired Xbox controller in the past and currently have the Elite one and both worked straight out of the box.

Techniques07 · 25-05-2021 3:11pm

MadYaker wrote: »

I’ve given up to be honest. I’ve spent about €30 getting the 360 controller and cable after the xb one controller wouldn’t work via Bluetooth or usb. I’m not wasting any more time or money. I only wanted it for one game that I bought on steam which somehow doesn’t work with a mouse and kb.

Did you have the controller connected to the cable before connecting the cable to the pc? I remember my friend had the same issue and it was as simple as that to fix.

Homelander · 25-05-2021 3:42pm

Are you using a really old version of Windows by any chance? The Xbox One controller is just plug and play with a standard USB Micro/C cable depending on the model.

It also connects to Bluetooth easily though it may have to be 4.0 and above to work, EG if you have some old/cheap Bluetooth 2.1 adaptor it won't work.

I've gone through tons of them and it literally is as simple as just plugging it in and it works though at the very least with the cable.

The 360 controller is different. There's a charging cable but fairly sure that doesn't not work as a wired controller. With the 360 controller you need either a hard wired one, or the Xbox wireless receiver if it's wireless.

MadYaker · 30-05-2021 11:50pm

I've got the most recent version of windows 10 and an xbox one controller is absolutely not plug in and play, I couldn't get my PC or steam to recognise it no matter what I tried. I plug it in and the controller vibrates, I hold the logo button to turn it on, it starts to flash and that's it, nothing happens. Xbox accessories app won't recognise the controller either. So I gave up, steam shouldn't be selling games that don't work with a mouse and kb and if they are it should come with a warning.

wotzgoingon · 31-05-2021 12:21am

MadYaker wrote: »

I've got the most recent version of windows 10 and an xbox one controller is absolutely not plug in and play, I couldn't get my PC or steam to recognise it no matter what I tried. I plug it in and the controller vibrates, I hold the logo button to turn it on, it starts to flash and that's it, nothing happens. Xbox accessories app won't recognise the controller either. So I gave up, steam shouldn't be selling games that don't work with a mouse and kb and if they are it should come with a warning.

Honestly it's plug and play. There is something up with that controller. Do you know anyone with a Xbox to try it out on and see if it works. If you picked it up second hand the seller must have been selling it as it was faulty.

Robert ninja · 31-05-2021 1:43am

Maybe it's trying to connect wireless and the wire you're using is only for charging? Or something similar to that. Just a guess. Somehow doubt my linux system has better plug and play with PS4 and Xbox controllers than windows 10.

Overheal · 31-05-2021 4:17am

MadYaker wrote: »

I've got the most recent version of windows 10 and an xbox one controller is absolutely not plug in and play, I couldn't get my PC or steam to recognise it no matter what I tried. I plug it in and the controller vibrates, I hold the logo button to turn it on, it starts to flash and that's it, nothing happens. Xbox accessories app won't recognise the controller either. So I gave up, steam shouldn't be selling games that don't work with a mouse and kb and if they are it should come with a warning.

What’s the model number on the controller

TitianGerm · 31-05-2021 7:59am

MadYaker wrote: »

I've got the most recent version of windows 10 and an xbox one controller is absolutely not plug in and play, I couldn't get my PC or steam to recognise it no matter what I tried. I plug it in and the controller vibrates, I hold the logo button to turn it on, it starts to flash and that's it, nothing happens. Xbox accessories app won't recognise the controller either. So I gave up, steam shouldn't be selling games that don't work with a mouse and kb and if they are it should come with a warning.

If you connect the controller to the PC with a cable then the Xbox logo should light up automatically and be connected to the PC. There's no need to be pressing any button.

Mickeroo · 31-05-2021 8:50am

Any chance it's a first gen xbox one controller which doesn't have bluetooth and needs a dongle to work with pc? I'm nearly sure those ones wouldn't work wired either as the cable only charged them.

TitianGerm · 31-05-2021 9:10am

Mickeroo wrote: »

Any chance it's a first gen xbox one controller which doesn't have bluetooth and needs a dongle to work with pc? I'm nearly sure those ones wouldn't work wired either as the cable only charged them.

The orginal Elite Controller didn't have Bluetooth and worked with a cable on PC.

I used the Xbox cable that comes with the official rechargeable pack.

AlmightyCushion · 31-05-2021 9:26am

TitianGerm wrote: »

The orginal Elite Controller didn't have Bluetooth and worked with a cable on PC.

I used the Xbox cable that comes with the official rechargeable pack.

The standard Xbox one is the same. I don't have any dongle for mine and it works when plugged in using a cable.

TitianGerm · 31-05-2021 9:29am

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

The standard Xbox one is the same. I don't have any dongle for mine and it works when plugged in using a cable.

That's the way they all are. Once plugged into the PC you shouldn't have to turn the controller on at all.

Where did you buy the controller OP?

CastorTroy · 10-06-2021 11:07pm

So 2 game series were ported to PC this week: Ninja Gaiden and No More Heroes.
Seems the No More Heroes games don't allow keyboard and mouse. Both were designed with Wii controls though the first was ported to other consoles'

Robert ninja · 11-06-2021 12:24am

Abysmal reviews for Ninja Gaiden, too. Worst version, censored, no KB/M or basic PC options. KOEI TECMO should just F off at this point. They've consistently showed they're not prepared to put in any effort whatsoever. When the emulated version is better you really have to ask what in the crap are the developers even doing.

Stone Deaf 4evr · 11-06-2021 12:52pm

Robert ninja wrote: »

Abysmal reviews for Ninja Gaiden, too. Worst version, censored, no KB/M or basic PC options. KOEI TECMO should just F off at this point. They've consistently showed they're not prepared to put in any effort whatsoever. When the emulated version is better you really have to ask what in the crap are the developers even doing.

Ive never understood how a company can just squander their legacy like that.
youd have to imagine there are companies like Iron Galaxy or Bluepoint who would be happy to take on those projects and show them some real love, for a much better return.

CastorTroy · 11-06-2021 1:42pm

Yeah I thought companies had started treating PC ports seriously and the days of half assed ports were over

AlmightyCushion · 11-06-2021 2:28pm

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

Ive never understood how a company can just squander their legacy like that.
youd have to imagine there are companies like Iron Galaxy or Bluepoint who would be happy to take on those projects and show them some real love, for a much better return.

Yeah but doing that would cost more. They probably don't think the increased cost is worth the extra sales it may get so instead of doing it properly they do it on the cheap.

Mr Crispy · 11-06-2021 3:06pm

Yep, but will irritatingly drop porting stuff to PC altogether and blame poor sales on a lack of interest from players.

Robert ninja · 24-06-2021 7:13pm

What a deal

Overheal · 26-08-2021 5:19am

*checks on Star Citizen*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFxSr0T9I0g

Nope, still not quite ripe. Maybe in 2030.

ancapailldorcha · 06-10-2021 11:33am

Loaded up Resident Evil: Village yesterday for the first time. Easily the worst PC port I've ever seen in a Capcom game. The other three Resi titles were phenomenal ports but this is trash by comparison. Game itself looks decent enough so hopefully that makes up for it.

Skerries · 07-10-2021 7:28am

https://www.techpowerup.com/287539/amd-processors-lose-15-gaming-performance-with-windows-11-l3-cache-latency-tripled

..

dublinman1990 · 08-10-2021 7:13pm

Twitch has suffered from a major data breach this week. It has 125GB of streamers financial records & other data like source codes including the very beginnings of it's first website justin.tv. All of the leaked data from Twitch has been uploaded on 4Chan via the dark web. The hacker who uploaded the data on 4Chan, who remains anonymous; has said that the data breach had the intention to “foster more disruption and competition in the online video streaming space” because “their community is a disgusting toxic cesspool”.

I had to laugh at that comment because Twitch users are really lesser of the two evils when compared a lot of the disturbed individuals who have accounts up on 4Chan. A lot of the streamers, who are not like the millionaires on Twitch, are not really making that much money from it while they livestream their videos on the website. If some streamers are not able to have a proper job; this is their only income that they get paid while being on the website.

Some Twitter users have also said that if you have 2FA enabled on your Twitch account; it is reportedly safe. But there is another apparent major problem with encountering a data leak of this scale; it's has been reported from Reddit this is apparently only part 1 of the breach which may include more data maybe leaked on the dark web very soon.

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/the-entirety-of-twitch-has-reportedly-been-leaked

Glebee · 09-10-2021 10:04am

Just messed around abit with Nvidia Geforce Now, even with a decent broadband connection its running poorly for me, anybody else mess around with it?

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