Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Corby Trouser Press wrote: »

That outdoor test event in Iveagh Gardens tonight is peak “covid theatre”.

Just such a nonsensical waste of time.

Government acting as if it is a parent. Watching out for us and expecting us to be thankful. Complete waste of time. Enough evidence from other countries who are ahead of us.

I really do think some of our governing apparatus thinks we are still in the 1950s. I suppose they think this is their governing duty. Embarrassing and another example of the parochial mindset.

gozunda wrote: »

Because "Paddys" are thick Kaiser?

We need to follow others lock stock and barrel because we're incapable of coming up with solutions to our particular situations?

Maybe we should just rejoin the Union. Obviously as a nation we're a failure - and we don't have a clue about the Pandemic. "incompetent and backwards"...

https://i.imgflip.com/5cuhyo.jpg

I have spent a career in a professional support role to the wider social and public sector and similar work in other developed countries. We are an embarrassment when it comes to the day to day rollout of social policy. I have said it on other threads. If you have only lived in Ireland, it may be hard to appreciate. This event is sadly yet another example.

Cal4567 wrote: »

I have spent a career in a professional support role to the wider social and public sector and similar work in other developed countries. We are an embarrassment when it comes to the day to day role out of social policy. I have said it on other threads. If you have only lived in Ireland, it may be hard to appreciate. This event is sadly yet another example.

Imho that's a reflection of your personal pov rather than anything else. But yes lived and worked in a number of places outside Ireland - but leaving aside the personal element of who I am or any important job - no I do not feel any "embarrassment" whatsoever.

But yes it's the same old drumbeat non stop. Despite footage above of a similar event trialed in the North and the fact we're quite a bit behind the UK in terms of first dose vaccinations - there's a near constant thick paddy refrain where Ireland is painted absolutely the worstest, "incompetent and backwards" etc etc. Don't be surprised if people are getting fed up with that.

You'd swear those constantly denigrating of the country - despite the evident success we've had in keeping case numbers and deaths low and a successful rollout of the biggest vaccination programme in the history of the state - were forced to live only "in Ireland"

0lddog wrote: »

Meanwhile ( normal ) life in St Petersburg a few days ago

1hr 30min onwards totally amazing

In over 4 hours of live stream, how many masks did you count ?

You do realise that for the last week Russia had 2,618 Covid deaths ?



Close to 400 a day, and that has been the daily figure for the last 3 months. As has their 10,000 new daily cases.
They have only vaccinated 12% first dose and have just 9.5% fully vaccinated.
It wouldn`t be my idea of heaven on Earth where this virus is concerned simply because they are not wearing face masks.

GT89 wrote: »

So Denmark is to lift masking on the 14th June whilst Norway has said the pandemic is over in their country. Ireland needs to do the same and lift these silly restrictions.

Great idea.



We could just copy Denmark where a coronavirus passport showing you are fully vaccinated, or two weeks from first dose, have a negative test within the last 72 hours, or have recently recovered from Covid-19 is a requirement before you can visit a hairdresser, entry to all indoor businesses, sports facilities, gyms etc.
That will remain in place until everyone in Denmark over 16 years of age is offered a vaccine.


I presume if you favour following Denmark on mask wearing, then you favour all the above as well ?

My god that concert looked like the biggest load of ****e, I wouldn't even bring my toddler to it, it looked that childish.

Vicxas wrote: »

My god that concert looked like the biggest load of ****e, I wouldn't even bring my toddler to it, it looked that childish.

Really did look pretty pathetic.

I'd say this article and news caused some stomach upsets yesterday for those who've a less than objective opinions on the CMO.

Congratulations Dr Holohan

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/we-will-prevail-says-dr-tony-hololan-as-he-is-honoured-for-his-role-during-the-pandemic-40525065.html

Vicxas wrote: »

My god that concert looked like the biggest load of ****e, I wouldn't even bring my toddler to it, it looked that childish.

Insurance ad music.

gozunda wrote: »

Imho that's a reflection of your personal pov rather than anything else. But yes lived and worked in a number of places outside Ireland - but leaving aside the personal element of who I am or any important job - no I do not feel any "embarrassment" whatsoever.

But yes it's the same old drumbeat non stop. Despite footage above of a similar event trialed in the North and the fact we're quite a bit behind the UK in terms of first dose vaccinations - there's a near constant thick paddy refrain where Ireland is painted absolutely the worstest, "incompetent and backwards" etc etc. Don't be surprised if people are getting fed up with that.

You'd swear those constantly denigrating of the country - despite the evident success we've had in keeping case numbers and deaths low and a successful rollout of the biggest vaccination programme in the history of the state - were forced to live only "in Ireland"

I always love this attitude - if you don't like it, fook off :rolleyes:

Which by the way, is exactly what many of our best have done over the generations.

I suppose the idea of simply wanting and indeed demanding better for the country we were born and live in isn't an option, no?

It's no wonder we are still so parochial and socially backwards in many ways (headline grabbers like SSM aside). Too many Irish people are quite content with the status quo as long as they're alright, and they really don't like change or anything that challenges their comfortable little bubbles.

It explains everything from the inability to tackle the housing crisis (the decision makers and their supporters own their own homes and are landlords), public health care and waiting lists (not an issue if you can afford expensive private cover), the socio-economic divide (not something you worry about when you're wealthy to start with and connected), and many other fundamental problems in this country. There's a reason why me-fenism is a term in this country.

We are incredibly immature and selfish as a society, and it's wholly reflected in national policy and services and the politicians we elect.

gozunda wrote: »

Imho that's a reflection of your personal pov rather than anything else. But yes lived and worked in a number of places outside Ireland - but leaving aside the personal element of who I am or any important job - no I do not feel any "embarrassment" whatsoever.

But yes it's the same old drumbeat non stop. Despite footage above of a similar event trialed in the North and the fact we're quite a bit behind the UK in terms of first dose vaccinations - there's a near constant thick paddy refrain where Ireland is painted absolutely the worstest, "incompetent and backwards" etc etc. Don't be surprised if people are getting fed up with that.

You'd swear those constantly denigrating of the country - despite the evident success we've had in keeping case numbers and deaths low and a successful rollout of the biggest vaccination programme in the history of the state - were forced to live only "in Ireland"

Loads of good things here, just important to call out the silly ones. There can be a "let's wrap a green flag around ourselves" motion whenever criticism rears its head. It's a handy deflector.

Very little point for this event only to make the state look efficient. The news piece on RTE should have come with an advertisement warning in advance.

the kelt wrote: »

But you just confirmed my exact point, hospital at critical capacity but nothing to do with COVID cos people aren’t getting sick and hospitalised!

It’s only a few months into the vaccination programme, of course only a few months ago we had increasing cases leading to more people in hospitals because we didn’t have people vaccinated!!!

We don’t have a huge percentage yet with 2 doses yet people are not being hospitalised, the more people are the less people will be in hospitals so why’s should anything be reviewed on the bases of cases only if hospitals are not being overrun which I thought was the idea behind restrictions in the first place or have the goalposts changed?

Are you suggesting we should retain or reimpose restrictions if hospitals start to reach capacity even if the cause of that isn’t COVID?

Nevermind this poster, it was explicitly stated in the governments 'roadmap to nowhere' that restrictions may be reintroduced this coming winter in the case of a rise in COVID or other respiratory illnesses putting pressure on the health service.