Random EV thoughts.....

the_amazing_raisin · 09-06-2021 10:09PM

liamog wrote: »

I will remind you of the boards.ie charter, you cannot suggest people illegally park on the pavement.

Darn, my sinister plot has been foiled again

mfceiling · 09-06-2021 10:15PM

MJohnston wrote: »

Could you not run a granny charger out to the car easily enough? How wide is the footpath outside the house?

Probably about 6 or 7 foot. If someone tripped over it I'd be in bother!!

mfceiling · 09-06-2021 10:21PM

I'm probably being melodramatic to be honest. Just pīssed off that you try to do your bit to be a bit more environmentally friendly but the council are like "meh".

I looked into the charging from the lamppost idea and we have a grand total of.....1 in dun laoghaire.

I'm actually half tempted to get some sort of tall post and drop the cable from a height at the gate out to the car (subject to getting a park outside the house).

fits · 09-06-2021 10:23PM

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

Some clown will trip over it and sue you

Best solution would be to park on the pavement right against the front gate, so no one can get past on the side with the charging cable

Used to love this type of thing when pushing a double buggy around. People in wheelchairs really appreciate it too.

mfceiling · 09-06-2021 10:25PM

This is my problem.

fits · 09-06-2021 10:28PM

mfceiling wrote: »

This is my problem.

That’s a very nice problem to have!

unkel · 09-06-2021 10:32PM

mfceiling wrote: »

This is my problem.

Lovely house. I guess a long time ago a previous owner built a mews at the end of the garden and / or sold the land, so you have no lane way access round the back?

the_amazing_raisin · 09-06-2021 10:32PM

fits wrote: »

Used to love this type of thing when pushing a double buggy around. People in wheelchairs really appreciate it too.

I was jesting of course, I find it annoying as well when that happens

Still, it's a good way to highlight how annoying it can be when authorities claim to be environmentally friendly but aren't doing anything about charging facilities

the_amazing_raisin · 09-06-2021 10:33PM

mfceiling wrote: »

This is my problem.

I'm considerably less sympathetic all of a sudden

mfceiling · 09-06-2021 10:34PM

unkel wrote: »

Lovely house. I guess a long time ago a previous owner built a mews at the end of the garden and / or sold the land, so you have no lane way access round the back?

It is a lovely house on the outside but it is falling to bits on the inside!!

Yes the previous owner built a mews so I have no access at the rear.

TitianGerm · 09-06-2021 10:41PM

Black_Knight wrote: »

Guarantee if I was at a place where I could spend multiple hours touristing and charge for free, I'd stay longer if it meant not having to fast charge en route. Consequently I'd likely spend more at said tourist destination (food, tours etc). There's a limit to how long I'd stay though. Don't understand why businesses aren't catching onto this. Fota wildlife is one I regular think should suss this out.

IKEA and their 7kW unit comes to mind. It's not free, it's costly (after 2 hours) and it's slow.

I was there yesterday and there was an Outlander charging on my way in and a Leaf and Niro on the way out.

DrPhilG · 09-06-2021 10:50PM

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

Glendalough and Powerscourt are two other obvious ones. You can easily spend half the day at either, enough to get a decent bit of charge on a 7kW unit

Glenveagh National Park in Donegal has slow chargers too I believe.

MJohnston · 09-06-2021 10:54PM

mfceiling wrote: »

Probably about 6 or 7 foot. If someone tripped over it I'd be in bother!!

So IANAL etc etc but you can protect yourself from a lot of liability by taking reasonable steps to ensure people are aware of the trip hazard, and you're not leaving the cable there permanently. If it's an extension cord for a granny charger, rather than a thick Type 2 cable, it'll be easier to reduce the hazard. People trail hosepipes across the pavement all the time with little regard to liability.

You could throw down a high-vis, non-slip cable cover which isn't too prominent for people with reduced mobility. Here's an example of a UK council pragmatically recommending what to do:
https://www.hants.gov.uk/transport/electric-vehicles/ev-charging-guidance

Realistically, all DCC need to do here is allow property owners to create "cable channels" across pavements with some kind of removable cover.

unkel · 09-06-2021 10:56PM

MJohnston wrote: »

you can protect yourself from a lot of liability by taking reasonable steps to ensure people are aware of the trip hazard, and you're not leaving the cable there permanently. If it's an extension cord for a granny charger, rather than a thick Type 2 cable, it'll be easier to reduce the hazard. People trail hosepipes across the pavement all the time with little regard to liability.

You could throw down a high-vis, non-slip cable cover which isn't too prominent for people with reduced mobility. Here's an example of a UK council pragmatically recommending what to do:
https://www.hants.gov.uk/transport/electric-vehicles/ev-charging-guidance

This is Ireland and people will sue you. Don't even think about running a cable to your car from your property.

MJohnston · 09-06-2021 11:01PM

Also, mfceiling, not to snoop, but that looks like a very quiet residential street — it's not like you're dealing with a huge amount of pedestrian traffic.

And you're quite close to Dundrum TC — just go do your weekly shopping there and get a charge from one of the many free chargers.

MJohnston · 09-06-2021 11:03PM

unkel wrote: »

This is Ireland and people will sue you. Don't even think about running a cable to your car from your property.

People may try and sue you, that doesn't mean that they are even close to likely to win.

Consult with a lawyer (looks like you have the money to do so :pac:) and figure something out.

I'd also note mfceiling it looks like much more than just the one house on that street has turned their front garden into a driveway within the last 10 years (2009 Streetview shows no driveway, satellite map shows a driveway)

mfceiling · 09-06-2021 11:11PM

MJohnston wrote: »

People may try and sue you, that doesn't mean that they are even close to likely to win.

Consult with a lawyer (looks like you have the money to do so :pac:) and figure something out.

I'd also note mfceiling it looks like much more than just the one house on that street has turned their front garden into a driveway within the last 10 years (2009 Streetview shows no driveway, satellite map shows a driveway)

One house on the row did it years ago and apparently it was refused to the rest afterwards.

It is a quiet residential road but there is a popular park opposite it and a busy gym around the corner.

I just wouldn't be comfortable running a cable across the path. It's Ireland and someone would fall over it!!

MJohnston · 09-06-2021 11:23PM

mfceiling wrote: »

One house on the row did it years ago and apparently it was refused to the rest afterwards.

It is a quiet residential road but there is a popular park opposite it and a busy gym around the corner.

I just wouldn't be comfortable running a cable across the path. It's Ireland and someone would fall over it!!

There's definitely at least two properties on your street that didn't have driveways in 2009 and do now.

But if you're not willing or able to go that route, or the others, Dundrum Town Centre is probably your new best friend.

Parking is free until 10:30am on weekdays, and you can get €3 discount on your Tesco shopping if you have a parking ticket (no matter which time of day). Lots of chargers, including 4 x 22kW eCars spaces. If you time it right, you'll basically get your money back on cost of the eCars chargers.

Place is also generally dead before 9:30am.

Black_Knight · 10-06-2021 05:42AM

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

I'd agree, currently I only need to charge my ID.4ID.4 once a week, even if I was commuting to work. Model 3 performance should do even better

My charge last night from 30% lasted a grand total of 40 minutes. At this rate I'll be charging every day.

the_amazing_raisin · 10-06-2021 12:40PM

Black_Knight wrote: »

My charge last night from 30% lasted a grand total of 40 minutes. At this rate I'll be charging every day.

So my statement that the M3 should do better was definitely correct

RandomViewer · 10-06-2021 02:54PM

mfceiling wrote: »

One house on the row did it years ago and apparently it was refused to the rest afterwards.

It is a quiet residential road but there is a popular park opposite it and a busy gym around the corner.

I just wouldn't be comfortable running a cable across the path. It's Ireland and someone would fall over it!!

If you only had it down for 5 minutes someone would fall over it, people claim for anything,sure the lawyers are even advertising for claims

Kramer · 10-06-2021 03:38PM

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

Is Birdhill a problem spot because all the superchargers I've seen are never ICEd?

I've never seen the SuC at Birdhill badly ICE'd. The odd car/van there now & again, but the chargers are far enough away from the store entrance with plenty of parking.
The 2x free 50kW Applegreen chargers are busy though - they're to introduce charging for those soon, I'm reliably informed.

Cashel Ionity - now that's ICEing heaven :eek:.

hold my beer · 10-06-2021 05:41PM

Is there an app that shows all chargers close by? Serious lack of 50Kw ESB chargers

Black_Knight · 10-06-2021 05:52PM

hold my beer wrote: »

Is there an app that shows all chargers close by? Serious lack of 50Kw ESB chargers

The ESB charger app? Plugshare m

hold my beer · 10-06-2021 07:56PM

Black_Knight wrote: »

The ESB charger app? Plugshare m

Using the ESB one and they've only one 50Kw charger near me. Am wondering does anyone else have one. I'll look into plugshare

mfceiling · 10-06-2021 09:23PM

Watched the latest Rsymons video on YouTube earlier.

He was driving the new Polestar and was stopping for a charge. Complained that the car showed him 3 chargers which were "only" 50kw and he couldn't figure out why it showed him "slow" chargers!!

ELM327 · 11-06-2021 10:17AM

Thats how far the UK are from us now. They have ubiquitous 50kW chargers (I've seen people just pull in to random MSAs assuming they have FCP) and a splattering of 150-350kW.

cannco253 · 11-06-2021 11:08AM

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/avolon-in-2bn-electric-aircraft-bet-1.4590128

Not a 4 wheel car but still an electric vehicle, big money behind this.

How about having your own EVTOL airplane in the drive?

slave1 · 11-06-2021 11:16AM

ELM327 wrote: »

Thats how far the UK are from us now. They have ubiquitous 50kW chargers (I've seen people just pull in to random MSAs assuming they have FCP) and a splattering of 150-350kW.

Not to mention well north of 600 Tesla superchargers and installs left, right and centre ongoingly

liamog · 11-06-2021 11:25AM

ELM327 wrote: »

Thats how far the UK are from us now. They have ubiquitous 50kW chargers (I've seen people just pull in to random MSAs assuming they have FCP) and a splattering of 150-350kW.

UK market has been good for a few years, though their MSA infrastructure was weak due to the electric highway exclusivity agreement. Now that Gridserve have bought it off Ecotricity they plan to do an overhaul and improve it dramatically

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