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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • #3752
    corkie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,392 ✭✭✭corkie


    prunudo wrote: »
    Any rough time scale when we'll be back to true reported figures. Presumably they're still working off the swabs which is still a good indicator but are we setting ourselves for a glut of added cases?

    corkie wrote: »
    That changed from the 25th of May.

    "Case numbers were reported based on the number of positive results reported from laboratories adjusted for any duplication. Further work was undertaken to develop a more robust process for daily case numbers and from 25 May 2021 daily case numbers are based on a data extract from the Covid Care Tracker."
    https://www.gov.ie/en/news/be7fe-updated-covid-19-case-numbers-for-15-26-may-2021/

    ^^^ :)

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • #3753
    Always_Running
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    Tyrone212 wrote: »
    271. I'm guessing but that must be lowest for a long time. December?
    April 18th had 269 cases reported.


  • #3754
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    271 cases..... not good enough.

    271 cases of Coronavirus on the wall,
    271 cases of Coronavirus, you take one arm you vaccinate it all, 270 cases of Coronavirus on the wall.


  • #3755
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    271 cases of Coronavirus on the wall,
    271 cases of Coronavirus, you take one arm you vaccinate it all, 270 cases of Coronavirus on the wall.

    A star is born! :)


  • #3756
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Always_Running wrote: »
    April 18th had 269 cases reported.

    Only other time its been below 300 this year.


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  • #3757
    ClosedAccountFuzzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 745 ✭✭✭ClosedAccountFuzzy


    I see the government’s expert report on ventilation has been published and recently updated:

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/aa43c-expert-group-on-the-role-of-ventilation-in-reducing-transmission-of-covid-19/

    It’s one thing that really needs to be worked into planning of pretty much everything.


  • #3758
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,098 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    eskimohunt wrote: »
    I'd like to know what the estimated immunity levels in the population is / and will be in the coming weeks.

    Vaccine immunity + estimated community immunity = ???

    It's a simple formula. NPHET should release this information for public consumption.

    A good piece on this today. It seems it's not that simple to calculate


    https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2021/0608/1226962-covid-19-ireland-herd-immunity

    While there remains a lot of uncertainty, that produces a final estimate for current population immunity of between 39% and 43%.


  • #3759
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    FuzzyThinking wrote: »
    I see the government’s expert report on ventilation has been published and recently updated:

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/aa43c-expert-group-on-the-role-of-ventilation-in-reducing-transmission-of-covid-19/

    It’s one thing that really needs to be worked into planning of pretty much everything.

    12 months late JM&J.


  • #3760
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    UK looks set for a significant third wave. I hope we won't see anything like that here. The good news is the effectiveness of the vaccines and low confirmed cases of the delta variant here.

    https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1402351586786037763


  • #3761
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    wadacrack wrote: »
    UK looks set for a significant third wave. I hope we won't see anything like that here. The good news is the effectiveness of the vaccines and low confirmed cases of the delta variant here.

    https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1402351586786037763

    They are currently vaccinating people in their 30s in the UK, that will severely limit how significant this 'third wave' will be. All the hospitalisations, almost without exception, are not fully/unvaccinated people.


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  • #3762
    ednwireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,717 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    wadacrack wrote: »
    UK looks set for a significant third wave. I hope we won't see anything like that here. The good news is the effectiveness of the vaccines and low confirmed cases of the delta variant here.

    https://twitter.com/peterdonaghy/status/1402314196822511619

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • #3763
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,275 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    runawaybishop wrote: »
    They are currently vaccinating people in their 30s in the UK, that will severely limit how significant this 'third wave' will be. All the hospitalisations, almost without exception, are not fully/unvaccinated people.

    A friend of mine in England has just got his second dose. He's 48 (I think). My spouse (similar age) in Ireland will be getting her second dose of Pfizer in about two weeks time.

    That's the problem. They look like they're way ahead on doses, but the protection against Delta from one dose of AZ just isn't enough.

    I agree the wave will probably be blunted, but it's really bum-clenchy time for the UK if they choose to push again with full re-opening.

    If only Johnson had acted faster on India...


  • #3764
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Lumen wrote: »
    A friend of mine in England has just got his second dose. He's 48 (I think). My spouse (similar age) in Ireland will be getting her second dose of Pfizer in about two weeks time.

    That's the problem. They look like they're way ahead on doses, but the protection against Delta from one dose of AZ just isn't enough.

    I agree the wave will probably be blunted, but it's really bum-clenchy time for the UK if they choose to push again with full re-opening.

    If only Johnson had acted faster on India...
    The UK won't reopen fully on 21st June without some explosive data proving that everything will be alright.

    Johnson will bring it down to the wire. This was his showpiece, the proof of his brilliance. But they've spent the last week sandbagging, getting their excuses lined up. I'd be very surprised if 21st June goes ahead.


  • #3765
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,623 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Lumen wrote: »
    A friend of mine in England has just got his second dose. He's 48 (I think). My spouse (similar age) in Ireland will be getting her second dose of Pfizer in about two weeks time.

    That's the problem. They look like they're way ahead on doses, but the protection against Delta from one dose of AZ just isn't enough.

    I agree the wave will probably be blunted, but it's really bum-clenchy time for the UK if they choose to push again with full re-opening.

    If only Johnson had acted faster on India...

    The thing is the Indian variant is in most countries now including our own and it is in the USA for a while now and even their cases have plummeted. It hasn’t caused us any significant problems so far.

    I think the UK is more like being on a bumpy road, it might develop into a wave but not at the scale like their last ones.

    One dose isn’t a total loss, it seems to be circa 70% reduction of needing hospitalisation.


  • #3766
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,219 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Wouldn't be the end of the world for the UK to postpone their last reopening to early July

    If it gets postponed again then we're in trouble. UK reopenings a massive indication of the road were taking


  • #3767
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Wouldn't be the end of the world for the UK to postpone their last reopening to early July

    If it gets postponed again then we're in trouble. UK reopenings a massive indication of the road were taking

    It seems the issue is in northern towns where the uptake in vaccines isn't great

    We don't seem to have had that issue thus far

    I still think they'll be fine to open . Hospital numbers will increase but be easily manageable

    Just look at America


  • #3768
    Theboinkmaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,052 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    It seems the issue is in northern towns where the uptake in vaccines isn't great

    Yeah the same places who had blue collar workers warned if they voted for BREXIT the international factories would close.

    They voted for BREXIT and the factories closed.


  • #3769
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Wouldn't be the end of the world for the UK to postpone their last reopening to early July

    If it gets postponed again then we're in trouble. UK reopenings a massive indication of the road were taking

    Our pattern of disease is not the same as theirs nor is there a vaccine uptake problem plus our next reopening moves will not be till July. Our uber caution is saving us.


  • #3770
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Our pattern of disease is not the same as theirs nor is there a vaccine uptake problem plus our next reopening moves will not be till July. Our uber caution is saving us.

    This really. Johnson wanted to be the world’s standard bearer while we are just going about our own business and doing everything possible to ensure businesses don’t have to shut again when they’re reopened.

    It’s frustrating and seems painfully slow, but all we’re hearing is how we’re on track (with the usual health warnings) and the epidemiological data is backing it up. It’s not the case in the UK.


  • #3771
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Interesting stat on current cases - 7/10 are close contacts!


    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0609/1227163-covid-ireland/


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  • #3772
    kleiner feigling
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    ednwireland wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/peterdonaghy/status/1402314196822511619

    Great to see the % of hospitalizations per case decreasing.
    I imagine seasonality has also helped this significantly.
    For me, the effectiveness of the vaccines won't be fully apparent until winter comes.
    Fingers crossed they live up to expectations.


  • #3773
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Interesting stat on current cases - 7/10 are close contacts!


    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0609/1227163-covid-ireland/

    Likely to be good news. Not as many chains of transmission atm. Probably not missing many cases.


  • #3774
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Likely to be good news. Not as many chains of transmission atm. Probably not missing many cases.
    Indeed. I'm convinced the popups are nailing cases at this stage!


  • #3775
    Bigly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 ✭Bigly


    Theboinkmaster wrote: »
    Yeah the same places who had blue collar workers warned if they voted for BREXIT the international factories would close.

    They voted for BREXIT and the factories closed.

    Its actually mostly asian and black people not taking up vaccines but spin anyway


  • #3776
    What Username Guidelines
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    One to keep an eye on

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1402657109293080577?s=20


  • #3777
    mollser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭mollser


    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/harvard-professor-says-tony-holohan-s-views-on-antigen-tests-are-inaccurate-1.4588528

    Big bug bear of mine this, it's not going away and may well become the greatest failing of The NPHET... very well articulated by Mina - well done sir. Not too late to do a U turn on this, but they just won't and will continue to ignore the science.


  • #3778
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,501 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Just talking to a German friend who lives in the US. He is just back from Germany and didn't have to quarantine at all when he visited as he's vaccinated.
    Why are we forcing vaccinated people to quarantine when they arrive here? Doesn't seem to make any sense.


  • #3779
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    mollser wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/harvard-professor-says-tony-holohan-s-views-on-antigen-tests-are-inaccurate-1.4588528

    Big bug bear of mine this, it's not going away and may well become the greatest failing of The NPHET... very well articulated by Mina - well done sir. Not too late to do a U turn on this, but they just won't and will continue to ignore the science.
    He's been banging on about that for weeks, even took to Twitter for some silly comments for a while. NPHET see them as useful for very specific controlled environments and it's really his opinion versus NPHET, not just the CMO. DeGascun is also not much of a fan. He's like all of these academics/experts, lots of opinions but they have never had to make a public decision in their lives.


  • #3780
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    is_that_so wrote: »
    He's been banging on about that for weeks, even took to Twitter for some silly comments for a while. NPHET see them as useful for very specific controlled environments and it's really his opinion versus NPHET, not just the CMO. DeGascun is also not much of a fan. He's like all of these academics/experts, lots of opinions but they have never had to make a public decision in their lives.

    The ECDC have also endorsed the use of antigen tests and have approved specific tests?


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  • #3781
    Skygord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 205 ✭✭Skygord


    Bigly wrote: »
    Its actually mostly asian and black people not taking up vaccines but spin anyway

    Yep. I was in one of the UK northern hotspots twice in the last month (essential travel both times). Vaccine takeup and social distancing have been very poor in the Muslim communities which are a high % of those towns. The end of Ramadan (Eid) festivities were 4 weeks ago tomorrow, and from what I saw I'm not at all surprised that the cases are surging now in those towns. UK press are obviously being cautious not to stir up any race wars, so they only reference this obliquely e.g. "vaccination rates are lower than UK average in this area".


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