Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI Read OP For Mod Warnings

NIAC Fanboy · 08-06-2021 09:36AM

martingriff wrote: »

There only trying to get a rise don't fall for it

Hold firm and stay the course lads, won't be long flattening the curve and clocking the gold stars from Tony and Stevie.

Don't forget to keep washing the hands.

martingriff · 08-06-2021 09:40AM

NIAC Fanboy wrote: »

Hold firm and stay the course lads, won't be long flattening the curve and clocking the gold stars from Tony and Stevie.

Don't forget to keep washing the hands.

Always wash my hands ever before this crap. Hygiene is very important.

gozunda · 08-06-2021 09:42AM

martingriff wrote: »

There only trying to get a rise don't fall for it

Yeah seems that way sadly enough...

NIAC Fanboy · 08-06-2021 09:46AM

gozunda wrote: »

Yeah seems that way sadly enough...

Well yes and no.

Just because you swallow absorb and defend every episode of the covid experience, won't stop the rest of us from challenging it.

celt262 · 08-06-2021 09:48AM

Chivito550 wrote: »

Dunluce Castle, Whiterocks Strand, Giants Causeway, Portballintrae Beach, drive along causeway coast, training session on athletics track, hike to Hare's Gap in Mourne Mountains. 10k, 14k and 19k steps for the 3 days.

Thanks for the concern though.

Not concerned, you fitted a lot in so.

hynesie08 · 08-06-2021 09:58AM

martingriff wrote: »

I am trying to figure out who the real doom merchants here are the so called curtain twitchers or ones who laugh at them and then come out with examples like above.

Its the second

There are some people who can't comprehend that the mood is shifting and that we're coming to the end of this, so they need to invent a boogie man rather than just be happy.

Couldn't be me lad, I have 2 days off work, went for pints last night and I'm heading to the Cinema today, life is good.

Chivito550 · 08-06-2021 10:02AM

celt262 wrote: »

Not concerned, you fitted a lot in so.

Making up for lost time. Last holiday of any sorts was end of August last year in Kerry.

martingriff · 08-06-2021 10:07AM

NIAC Fanboy wrote: »

Well yes and no.

Just because you swallow absorb and defend every episode of the covid experience, won't stop the rest of us from challenging it.

So saying what happened in India was a hoax is challenging it

martingriff · 08-06-2021 10:10AM

hynesie08 wrote: »

There are some people who can't comprehend that the mood is shifting and that we're coming to the end of this, so they need to invent a boogie man rather than just be happy.

Couldn't be me lad, I have 2 days off work, went for pints last night and I'm heading to the Cinema today, life is good.

It's not my lot either but here is becoming toxic at time. Hoping it get a bit more light hearted here now things opening up

LuckyLloyd · 08-06-2021 10:10AM

NIAC Fanboy wrote: »

Well yes and no.

Just because you swallow absorb and defend every episode of the covid experience, won't stop the rest of us from challenging it.

And what have you achieved as a result of this? Seems to me that all the challenging (i.e. moaning and misinformation) posts in these threads didn't move the needle on anything. To quote MacBeth, it truly has been a thread "Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, / Signifying nothing".

gozunda · 08-06-2021 10:13AM

NIAC Fanboy wrote: »

Well yes and no.Just because you swallow absorb and defend every episode of the covid experience, won't stop the rest of us from challenging it.

Yeah like the bs that people dying in huge numbers in India was a "Hoax"

"Challenging it" my rear end. Its simply BS.

Penfailed · 08-06-2021 10:18AM

NIAC Fanboy wrote: »

India's capital New Delhi and financial hub Mumbai began a gradual easing of restrictions today as coronavirus infections in the country fell to a two-month low.

So much for that then. The Indian variant yet another hoax.

Really? Do you expect people to take your posts seriously?

gozunda · 08-06-2021 10:27AM

Chivito550 wrote: »

We walked into loads of places we were not staying in and we had no problem. In Bushmills, Portrush, Ballintoy, Newcastle, Newry. Didn't provide a phone number in any of them. Never downloaded the app either.

Look no one is criticising anyone going on a roadtrip etc. But whether observed or not - NI has a raft of tourism related contact and tracing guidelines in operation atm.

I do have to ask - whats the thing with declaring you didn't bother with the NI Contact App for your time there?

Its not like it costs anything tbh - it simply useful information where youve been in contact with someone who tests positive.

Chivito550 · 08-06-2021 10:36AM

gozunda wrote: »

Look no one is criticising anyone going on a roadtrip etc. But whether observed or not - NI has a raft of tourism related contact and tracing guidelines in operation atm.

I do have to ask - whats the thing with declaring you didn't bother with the NI Contact App for your time there?

Its not like it costs anything tbh - it simply useful information where youve been in contact with someone who tests positive.

They have guidelines. I'm telling you none of them are being followed.

I was all for contact tracing in the early stages. Now that the vulnerable are vaccinated I've no interest in being told to stay in my room for 14 days because some lad sitting in the same cafe tested asymptomatic positive. That's not normal life and I'd like to stay anonymous as much as possible. If I have to give my details I will, but I won't be going out of my way to do so.

gozunda · 08-06-2021 10:53AM

Chivito550 wrote: »

They have guidelines. I'm telling you none of them are being followed.

I was all for contact tracing in the early stages. Now that the vulnerable are vaccinated I've no interest in being told to stay in my room for 14 days because some lad sitting in the same cafe tested asymptomatic positive. That's not normal life and I'd like to stay anonymous as much as possible. If I have to give my details I will, but I won't be going out of my way to do so.

Maybe. However individual accounts don't amount to definitive proof that none of the guidelines are being followed there tbf. The guidelines are there and advised if you check.

eg

https://visitbelfast.com/article/coronavirus-covid-19-advice-for-visitors-to-belfast/

But no - no one is tracking you btw. Contact Apps are anonymous with contact only been made in the case of positive cases.

_Kaiser_ · 08-06-2021 10:56AM

gozunda wrote: »

But no - no one is tracking you btw. Contact Apps are anonymous with contact only been made in the case of positive cases.

That's his point. It's not about Big Brother - it's being told he has to quarantine himself because someone in the same room with no symptoms might show as positive on a test.

Chivito550 · 08-06-2021 10:58AM

gozunda wrote: »

Maybe. However individual accounts don't amount to definitive proof that none of the guidelines are being followed there tbf. The guidelines are there if you check.

But no - no one is tracking you btw. Contact Apps are anonymous with contact only been made in the case of positive cases.

Makes no difference to me whether you believe me. I'm telling you I visited 8 different hospitality settings and not once did I have to provide personal data. Same with the athletics track I visited, and the same with Dunluce Castle which we paid to enter.

gozunda · 08-06-2021 11:07AM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

That's his point. It's not about Big Brother - it's being told he has to quarantine himself because someone in the same room with no symptoms might show as positive on a test.

Is that your personal take on it? And the only scenario you can think of -as to why contract tracing might be useful to yourself and others?

How about I dunno - maybe simple peace of mind when out and about and simply knowing when you need to get tested?

Chivito550 · 08-06-2021 11:12AM

gozunda wrote: »

Is that your personal take on it? And the only scenario you can think of -as to why contract tracing might be useful to yourself and others?

How about I dunno - maybe simple peace of mind when out and about and simply knowing when you need to get tested?

I'm vaccinated and have no symptoms. And the vulnerable are vaccinated. Why would I feel I need to get tested?

NIAC Fanboy · 08-06-2021 11:22AM

Chivito550 wrote: »

Makes no difference to me whether you believe me. I'm telling you I visited 8 different hospitality settings and not once did I have to provide personal data. Same with the athletics track I visited, and the same with Dunluce Castle which we paid to enter.

It was the same around here on Monday, nobody looking for contact details, people walking into hotels off the street and getting food and drink, no questions asked.

It was the same with the €9 meal, places just put menus and pizza boxes in front of people and pretended to play along.

I'd say places taking details will be the exception rather than the rule.

NIAC Fanboy · 08-06-2021 11:27AM

gozunda wrote: »

Jesus fuqing wept. How can anyone sit in front of their keyboard and come out with such a idiotic statement?

Were the scenes of people dying in India as hospitals there were overwhelmed there a "hoax"? And remember hospitals up to that point had gone a full year without being overwhelmed.

Were the scenes of cremations burning night and day a 'hoax"? Or the many bodies which were found in the Ganges - that had been put there because so many people had died - was that a "hoax"? Were the long queues of people trying to buy oxygen for family members a "hoax"?

Yeah someone there obviously made that all up just to hoodwink people here. :mad:

I am referring to the con job that Tony and the government pulled, using scenes from India to try and keep the suppression going here. Drumming into people its more transmissible, vaccine resistant etc.

There was a big outbreak in India, people died, same as here at Christmas.

Tony was checking his worryometer and noticed people had stopped caring, so the India pictures suited him nicely to put the boot on peoples necks.

The delta variant is all blown over now, not much talk of it.

NIAC Fanboy · 08-06-2021 11:28AM

Chivito550 wrote: »

I'm vaccinated and have no symptoms. And the vulnerable are vaccinated. Why would I feel I need to get tested?

Ah yeah but new variants.......

Whatsisname · 08-06-2021 11:31AM

Chivito550 wrote: »

They have guidelines. I'm telling you none of them are being followed.

I was all for contact tracing in the early stages. Now that the vulnerable are vaccinated I've no interest in being told to stay in my room for 14 days because some lad sitting in the same cafe tested asymptomatic positive. That's not normal life and I'd like to stay anonymous as much as possible. If I have to give my details I will, but I won't be going out of my way to do so.

Its the same in England too. You get told to scan it, but they don't check to see whether you've filled it in or not. I never fill it in nor do I know anyone who does.

I went to the cinema last weekend, guy at the door told everyone coming in to scan the QR code, everyone did, it didn't link anywhere, it was just a dead link, nobody told him, everyone just proceeded to carry on to get their tickets. Soon as you get into the screening, everyone takes the mask off, as far as I can tell, nobody really cares anymore about these rules and guidelines.

NIAC Fanboy · 08-06-2021 11:31AM

gozunda wrote: »

Look no one is criticising anyone going on a roadtrip etc. But whether observed or not - NI has a raft of tourism related contact and tracing guidelines in operation atm.

I do have to ask - whats the thing with declaring you didn't bother with the NI Contact App for your time there?

Its not like it costs anything tbh - it simply useful information where youve been in contact with someone who tests positive.

When we had a serious outbreak at Christmas, how much use was all the writing down of names in hospitality outlets?

I'd bet when the sh1t hit the fan not one list was requested by contact tracers.

gozunda · 08-06-2021 11:40AM

Chivito550 wrote: »

I'm vaccinated and have no symptoms. And the vulnerable are vaccinated. Why would I feel I need to get tested?

You're fully vaccinated? And all the "vulnerable" are fully vaccinated? And theres no risk whatsoever people can't contact covid after being vaccinated - really? I guess you may not be as wholly informed as you think you are. You may also wish to look up on how many in group 7 (v high risk) have just one vaccination and group 4 (high risk) are yet to be vaccinated.

But sure why would anyone bother ...

I'll leave you to it.

Chivito550 · 08-06-2021 11:40AM

gozunda wrote: »

Well that is the point - its nothing to do with me eitherway. It remains individual accounts don't amount to definitive proof that none of the guidelines are being followed there tbf.

As detailed earlier - athletic tracks definitely do have guidelines about those using the facilities and yeah I know Dunluce Castle quite well. Its a large green space surrounded by the walls of a very much fallen down castle. Outside social distancing and etc I'm not sure what you'd expect there tbh.

Well the athletics track I visited didn't follow these guidelines, and re Dunluce Castle, Mark my words, a similar sight in the Republic will be doing contact tracing, I can assure you of that.

As I said, 8 different hospitality settings in 5 different towns across Antrim and Down over 3 days. Maybe I was incredibly lucky to happen upon the places that have disregarded the nonsense, or maybe its a pretty decent sample size.

Chivito550 · 08-06-2021 11:43AM

gozunda wrote: »

You're fully vaccinated? And all the "vulnerable" are fully vaccinated? And theres no risk whatsoever people can't contact covid after being vaccinated - really? I guess you may not be as wholly informed as you think you are. You may also wish to look the statistics on how many in group 7 (v high risk) have just one vaccination and group 4 (high risk) are yet to be vaccinated.

But sure why would anyone bother ...

I'll leave you to it.

Anyone, partially vaccinated, in an at risk category who is still worried can stay at home under their beds if they are that worried. Not me. Sorry.

That time has long passed I'm afraid.

M_Murphy57 · 08-06-2021 11:46AM

NIAC Fanboy wrote: »

When we had a serious outbreak at Christmas, how much use was all the writing down of names in hospitality outlets?

I'd bet when the sh1t hit the fan not one list was requested by contact tracers.

When the **** hit the fan they couldnt even test known close contacts and in fact stopped testing them altogether unless they had symptoms.

Writing down 4 million peoples mobile nos with pen and paper in restaurants across the country was just more stupid theatre where we "pretended safety" - like pods in tiny unventilated classrooms , or no transmission in schools , or 9 euro meals or *insert a thousand other stupid pointless rules that a child could poke a hole in*

NIAC Fanboy · 08-06-2021 11:53AM

gozunda wrote: »

And theres no risk whatsoever people can't contact covid after being vaccinated - really?

You need to learn to quantify risk, you really do.

charlie14 · 08-06-2021 12:05PM

NIAC Fanboy wrote: »

I am referring to the con job that Tony and the government pulled, using scenes from India to try and keep the suppression going here. Drumming into people its more transmissible, vaccine resistant etc.

There was a big outbreak in India, people died, same as here at Christmas.

Tony was checking his worryometer and noticed people had stopped caring, so the India pictures suited him nicely to put the boot on peoples necks.

The delta variant is all blown over now, not much talk of it.

Really ?
Seems even with their higher vaccination levels in the U.K. it is still quite a big deal there if you are not fully vaccinated.
It is now the dominant strain in the U.K. being 40% more transmissible with over 5,000 new cases daily, and has Matt Hancock stating that the U.K. government are "absolutely open" to delaying the final lifting of England`s lockdown on June 21st if necessary.

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