Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

gozunda

Chivito550 wrote: »

Just back from 3 days in Northern Ireland. Cracking weather, great scenery, and lots of delicious indoor food and lovely indoor pints.

The best bit of it all? I visited 8 different restaurants/pubs over the 3 days for lunch/dinner/pints and not once did I have to give my name and phone number for this contact tracing lark.

I went for a training session on an athletics track. Just paid my £4 and in I go. Again, no personal information provided. It was magnificent.

When I'm training on the track at Irishtown in Dublin during our club training slot, if I want to use the damn toilet I have to sign my name and number. No thanks, I'll use the park outside so.

I'm back in the Developing World now, but it was fun while it lasted.

I see not much has changed here - the same few posters churning out triple figure posts per day!

Right that type of weather in NI is simply not believable

On a more serious note that's not what athletic clubs in NI are detailing. Looks like you may have been lucky as an as a visitor to be an exception to the rule

With regard to Covid and according to athletics NI clubs and facilities must-

• Operate a booking system for all training•

• Booking a time in advance is required so that numbers can be managed.

• Make sure the club has up-to-date contact details (phone and email) of all athletes


https://athleticsni.org/download/files/Return%20to%20Sport%20Guidance%20Clubs%20v8(1).docx

See.

https://athleticsni.org/Coronavirus-Advice

gozunda

PTH2009 wrote: »

That was a new virus

Was it?

Or do you mean the comments made about the variant in March of this year - where B.1.1.7 was compared to a "new virus"?

Penfailed

PTH2009 wrote: »

I'm guessing the buzz we all have tonight will be short lived

Variants

England panic and talk of them delaying the big last reopen

New normal

Guess away ye boy ye...it's not going to change anything. Don't worry about something that you have no control over.
I had pints in a beer garden in a pub I hadn't been in since March last year. People were hugging and shaking hands and having the craic...and it was great to be part of it.

PTH2009

gozunda wrote: »

Was it?

Or do you mean the comments made about the variant in March of this year - where B.1.1.7 was compared to a "new virus"?

Yep something which our leader came out and said it 'was a new virus'

martingriff

Chivito550 wrote: »

Just back from 3 days in Northern Ireland. Cracking weather, great scenery, and lots of delicious indoor food and lovely indoor pints.

The best bit of it all? I visited 8 different restaurants/pubs over the 3 days for lunch/dinner/pints and not once did I have to give my name and phone number for this contact tracing lark.

I went for a training session on an athletics track. Just paid my £4 and in I go. Again, no personal information provided. It was magnificent.

When I'm training on the track at Irishtown in Dublin during our club training slot, if I want to use the damn toilet I have to sign my name and number. No thanks, I'll use the park outside so.

I'm back in the Developing World now, but it was fun while it lasted.

I see not much has changed here - the same few posters churning out triple figure posts per day!

Funny that I have read the exact opposite

Seems beaten to it

martingriff

gozunda wrote: »

Right that type of weather in NI is simply not believable

On a more serious note that's not what athletic clubs in NI are detailing. Looks like you may have been lucky as an as a visitor to be an exception to the rule

With regard to Covid and according to athletics NI clubs and facilities must-

• Operate a booking system for all training•

• Booking a time in advance is required so that numbers can be managed.

• Make sure the club has up-to-date contact details (phone and email) of all athletes


https://athleticsni.org/download/files/Return%20to%20Sport%20Guidance%20Clubs%20v8(1).docx

See.

https://athleticsni.org/Coronavirus-Advice

Also same for places serving food. Of course that have been in the place he was staying so already had the details

martingriff

PTH2009 wrote: »

I'm guessing the buzz we all have tonight will be short lived

Variants

England panic and talk of them delaying the big last reopen

New normal

I am trying to figure out who the real doom merchants here are the so called curtain twitchers or ones who laugh at them and then come out with examples like above.

Its the second

PTH2009

martingriff wrote: »

I am trying to figure out who the real doom merchants here are the so called curtain twitchers or ones who laugh at them and then come out with examples like above.

Its the second

Mental illness is a horrible thing

martingriff

PTH2009 wrote: »

Mental illness is a horrible thing

Sorry what

Chivito550

gozunda wrote: »

Right that type of weather in NI is simply not believable

On a more serious note that's not what athletic clubs in NI are detailing. Looks like you may have been lucky as an as a visitor to be an exception to the rule

With regard to Covid and according to athletics NI clubs and facilities must-

• Operate a booking system for all training•

• Booking a time in advance is required so that numbers can be managed.

• Make sure the club has up-to-date contact details (phone and email) of all athletes


https://athleticsni.org/download/files/Return%20to%20Sport%20Guidance%20Clubs%20v8(1).docx

See.

https://athleticsni.org/Coronavirus-Advice

I competed there the weekend before and there was supposed to be temperature checks and a one way system. None of that happened.

What is said, and what actually happens are two different things.

It might be different for club bookings versus individual walk on bookings though.

Chivito550

martingriff wrote: »

Also same for places serving food. Of course that have been in the place he was staying so already had the details

We walked into loads of places we were not staying in and we had no problem. In Bushmills, Portrush, Ballintoy, Newcastle, Newry. Didn't provide a phone number in any of them. Never downloaded the app either.

martingriff

Chivito550 wrote: »

We walked into loads of places we were not staying in and we had no problem. In Bushmills, Portrush, Ballintoy, Newcastle, Newry. Didn't provide a phone number in any of them. Never downloaded the app either.

Well you must have been lucky because simple searches (on a phone now) say otherwise or you had them booked

Chivito550

martingriff wrote: »

Well you must have been lucky because simple searches (on a phone now) say otherwise or you had them booked

Lucky? In 8 different places?

Once is luck. 8 times is not.

Head up yourself and try walk into a café, restaurant or pub if you don't believe me.

I prefer to go by actual experience rather than something read on the Internet from afar.

NIAC Fanboy

Chivito550 wrote: »

We walked into loads of places we were not staying in and we had no problem. In Bushmills, Portrush, Ballintoy, Newcastle, Newry. Didn't provide a phone number in any of them. Never downloaded the app either.

I was out over the weekend, loads of places doing "takeaway pints", just go into the bar and pay at the counter and then stand outside the door in large groups. No 6 to a table, contact tracing or table service.

Same trend continued yesterday. Proper order to give 2 fingers to the micro managers who persist with the farce.

NIAC Fanboy

India's capital New Delhi and financial hub Mumbai began a gradual easing of restrictions today as coronavirus infections in the country fell to a two-month low.

So much for that then. The Indian variant yet another hoax.

beaz2018

I am in the north as well at the moment. Been in multiple pubs etc. no contact forms. It has been such a nice weekend I must say. I did weep a small bit when a family with Kerry jerseys appeared for breakfast with masks on their kids. The staff here arent even wearing them (some are wearing visors).

martingriff

Chivito550 wrote: »

Lucky? In 8 different places?

Once is luck. 8 times is not.

Head up yourself and try walk into a café, restaurant or pub if you don't believe me.

I prefer to go by actual experience rather than something read on the Internet from afar.

Something I read in the Internet. You mean like yours. Won't be going to NI. Lovely country here to explore. If I get ask for details or I have to book so be it. Not a big deal or the end of the world. Some people make too much over stuff

Genre..

This is the greatest load of nonsense in the history of mankind

How much longer will this farce persist

suicide_circus

Great to get out for a lazy lunch yesterday with someone else washing up afterwards. It's sad how great it was but great nonetheless. The next prick to call for a lockdown needs to be fired out of a cannon into the sun.

Chivito550

martingriff wrote: »

Well you must have been lucky because simple searches (on a phone now) say otherwise or you had them booked

To detail it for you:

Saturday: We were staying in a guesthouse so no food options there except breakfast:

1) Lunch in a cafe - Walked in, was given a table - Never asked for a name or a number
2) Dinner in a pub that serves food - Walked in, was given a table - Never asked for a name or a number
3) Wet pub - Walked in, was given a table - Never asked for a name or a number. Place stayed open after it officially closed and was there til 1am!

Sunday:

4) Lunch in a cafe in a beautiful isolated scenic area - Walked in, was given a table - Never asked for a name or a number
5) Dinner in the restaurant of the hotel we were staying in - However, the restaurant is open to non hotel guests too. I called up earlier in the day to make a reservation before we had actually checked in and I never told them I was staying in the hotel, so I could have easily been somebody staying elsewhere. They never asked for my number either.
6) Pub in the hotel - Went in for a few pints after dinner. Never asked for a name or a number. I saw the barcodes for the app on all the tables. Just ignored that. Wasn't enforced.

Monday:

7) Lunch in a lovely cafe in Newcastle - Walked in, was given a table - Never asked for a name or a number
8) Dinner in a pub that serves food in Newry just before we crossed back into the Developing World - Walked in, was given a table - Never asked for a name or a number

NIAC Fanboy

Genre.. wrote: »

This is the greatest load of nonsense in the history of mankind

How much longer will this farce persist

As long as social media is there to spread fear i suppose

NIAC Fanboy

martingriff wrote: »

Some people make too much over stuff

Yeah it not like this nonsense has been going on for 15 months now.

On Sunday you could get takeaway pints at the bar counter and stand outside in a group of 20 or 100 and on Monday you have to sit in groups of 6, give your contact details and wait for somebody to serve you the pint.

gozunda

PTH2009 wrote: »

Yep something which our leader came out and said it 'was a new virus

Not quite.

It was Ronan Glynn Deputy Chief Medical Officer commenting on the B.1.1.7 variant on March 22 2021 who made reference to the new variant being equivalent to a new virus.

“We are dealing with a new virus versus 2020, that is for sure. And we have been dealing with significant levels of the virus in this country for some time this year,” Dr Ronan Glynn said on the issue of stalled progression.

This is Micheál Martin on 30 March 2021 referring to the CMOs comment above

The disease we are dealing with now is a very different beast to that which we were facing at the beginning of the first lockdown in Ireland more than 54 weeks ago.

The so-called UK or B-117 variant is essentially a new virus. It is more transmissible and it is significantly more dangerous...

The point the DCMO was making was that B.1.1.7 variant responsible for the difficuly of getting case numbers down. Micheal Martin stated that the B.1.1.7 'variant' was significantly different in that it was more transmissible and (therefore) more dangerous.

Could MM and Dr Glynn described it better? Yes they could. But its evident they are describing B.1.1.7 as being significantly different to what had gone before.

martingriff

I was just saying what it says in Tourism NI and gov.ni. If places are not doing that then fine. I can go have food and drink weather is great and a few seconds of name and number will not stop me enjoying it.

martingriff

NIAC Fanboy wrote: »

Yeah it not like this nonsense has been going on for 15 months now.

On Sunday you could get takeaway pints at the bar counter and stand outside in a group of 20 or 100 and on Monday you have to sit in groups of 6, give your contact details and wait for somebody to serve you the pint.

Well that would be because you are away (or supposed to be) from the premise so they don't give a damn. Now you will be on there premise legally

celt262

Chivito550 wrote: »

To detail it for you:

Saturday: We were staying in a guesthouse so no food options there except breakfast:

1) Lunch in a cafe - Walked in, was given a table - Never asked for a name or a number
2) Dinner in a pub that serves food - Walked in, was given a table - Never asked for a name or a number
3) Wet pub - Walked in, was given a table - Never asked for a name or a number. Place stayed open after it officially closed and was there til 1am!

Sunday:

4) Lunch in a cafe in a beautiful isolated scenic area - Walked in, was given a table - Never asked for a name or a number
5) Dinner in the restaurant of the hotel we were staying in - However, the restaurant is open to non hotel guests too. I called up earlier in the day to make a reservation before we had actually checked in and I never told them I was staying in the hotel, so I could have easily been somebody staying elsewhere. They never asked for my number either.
6) Pub in the hotel - Went in for a few pints after dinner. Never asked for a name or a number. I saw the barcodes for the app on all the tables. Just ignored that. Wasn't enforced.

Monday:

7) Lunch in a lovely cafe in Newcastle - Walked in, was given a table - Never asked for a name or a number
8) Dinner in a pub that serves food in Newry just before we crossed back into the Developing World - Walked in, was given a table - Never asked for a name or a number

Did you actually do anything other than eat and drink?

gozunda

NIAC Fanboy wrote: »

India's capital New Delhi and financial hub Mumbai began a gradual easing of restrictions today as coronavirus infections in the country fell to a two-month low.

So much for that then. The Indian variant yet another hoax.

Jesus fuqing wept. How can anyone sit in front of their keyboard and come out with such a idiotic statement?

Were the scenes of people dying in India as hospitals there were overwhelmed there a "hoax"? And remember hospitals up to that point had gone a full year without being overwhelmed.

Were the scenes of cremations burning night and day a 'hoax"? Or the many bodies which were found in the Ganges - that had been put there because so many people had died - was that a "hoax"? Were the long queues of people trying to buy oxygen for family members a "hoax"?

Yeah someone there obviously made that all up just to hoodwink people here. :mad:

Chivito550

celt262 wrote: »

Did you actually do anything other than eat and drink?

Dunluce Castle, Whiterocks Strand, Giants Causeway, Portballintrae Beach, drive along causeway coast, training session on athletics track, hike to Hare's Gap in Mourne Mountains. 10k, 14k and 19k steps for the 3 days.

Thanks for the concern though.

martingriff

suicide_circus wrote: »

Great to get out for a lazy lunch yesterday with someone else washing up afterwards. It's sad how great it was but great nonetheless. The next prick to call for a lockdown needs to be fired out of a cannon into the sun.

What sad? Agree about the lockdown

martingriff

gozunda wrote: »

Jesus fuqing wept. How can anyone sit in front of their keyboard and come out with such a idiotic statement?

Were the scenes of people dying in India as hospitals there were overwhelmed there a "hoax"? And remember hospitals up to that point had gone a full year without being overwhelmed.

Were the scenes of cremations burning night and day a 'hoax"? Or the many bodies which were found in the Ganges - that had been put there because so many people had died - was that a "hoax"? Were the long queues of people trying to buy oxygen for family members a "hoax"?

Yeah someone there obviously made that all up just to hoodwink people here. :mad:

There only trying to get a rise don't fall for it