Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Got my second jab today, get home and see that Pfizer is not working so well against the Indian variant in the UK and a booster is likely required before year's end.
Still I'm happy to be fully vaccinated and hopefully by the end of the month we'll have nearly everything back close to normal.
Weird side affect, an old injury is giving me trouble today in my knee. I've heard about others experiencing similar.

Ficheall wrote: »

Exactly - instead of wasting all these resources testing people, why don't we just toss a coin to decide who the infected people are?

Huh

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Huh

You said it didn't matter if only six of ten tests were correctly done. Almost equivalent to trusting a tossed coin.

eagle eye wrote: »

Got my second jab today, get home and see that Pfizer is not working so well against the Indian variant in the UK and a booster is likely required before year's end.
Still I'm happy to be fully vaccinated and hopefully by the end of the month we'll have nearly everything back close to normal.
Weird side affect, an old injury is giving me trouble today in my knee. I've heard about others experiencing similar.

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Limerick lockdown, delayed reopenings?

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JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Limerick lockdown, delayed reopenings?

I really hope not, its no different to Donegal, Border counties, Dublin or many other lea's throughout the last 15 months. With hospital numbers declining and vaccinations hitting 3m this weekend, I had really hoped the obsession with case numbers would be behind us now at this stage.

prunudo wrote: »

I really hope not, its no different to Donegal, Border counties, Dublin or many other lea's throughout the last 15 months. With hospital numbers declining and vaccinations hitting 3m this weekend, I had really hoped the obsession with case numbers would be behind us now at this stage.

It's not an obsession with case numbers, there's some large outbreaks in Limerick there's no getting away from that, you can't have outbreaks growing and growing, have to get a lid on them regardless, now public health say they are on top of it and bringing it under control. They've said if it was out of control it would be a different story.

So yes they're treating it the same as they did in Donegal with more testing available and an increased awareness. Simple stuff that'll do the job in all likelihood

Sweet.Science wrote: »

These aren't PCR tests for symptomatic people or close contacts . Antigen tests or no test prior to events . What would you prefer ?

Depends on the numbers and people's behaviour. If 40% of them are administered incorrectly as you suggested, and of the 60% administered correctly, only 66% accurately identify a covid case, then if 10 covid-positive people attend an event, antigen testing removes 4 infected people from the event, but the other 6 start will act as if they don't have covid, and everyone else might assume there's no one around with covid.



Whereas if there's no testing, everyone will behave as if there might be people around with covid.


Which is worse? I don't know. I'm not sure what the numbers are and I'm not sure how people will act. But I certainly wouldn't assume that crappy tests "can only help".

is_that_so wrote: »

It's also a good opportunity to combine strategies that might come into play with other outbreaks post-vaccination. The pop-ups are certainly one of the best newer approaches and have proven themselves very useful.

Yeah they definitely do a good job, proven in other areas to bring cases well down.

If supply wasn't an issue you could increase vaccine supply to the area also, but like I say that's if supply wasn't a barrier

Ficheall wrote: »

Depends on the numbers and people's behaviour. If 40% of them are administered incorrectly as you suggested, and of the 60% administered correctly, only 66% accurately identify a covid case, then if 10 covid-positive people attend an event, antigen testing removes 4 infected people from the event, but the other 6 start will act as if they don't have covid, and everyone else might assume there's no one around with covid.



Whereas if there's no testing, everyone will behave as if there might be people around with covid.


Which is worse? I don't know. I'm not sure what the numbers are and I'm not sure how people will act. But I certainly wouldn't assume that crappy tests "can only help".

Also you're acting as is vaccines aren't happening . I don't suffer with anxiety . They should be happening now without antigen tests and social distancing

28 people out of over 5 million in ICU lol

Covid is over . It's now an anxiety pandemic

https://twitter.com/LaurelRosenhall/status/1400863695169720322?s=19

Classic America. Jokes aside it has a huge problem on their hands . The vaccine has become political over there . As a once off they got a portion to take at least one dose . Good luck with boosters

Sweet.Science wrote: »

https://twitter.com/LaurelRosenhall/status/1400863695169720322?s=19

Classic America

Where are our incentives for vaccination, Free House, pint of Guinness, Free Meal, Free Festival Ticket, Free Car, maybe a butter voucher.

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No, absolutely not, but I don’t get the defensiveness of it. I know the 97.6% claim is pie in the sky but still the reaction just seems overly defensive. Wonder if it’s because it’s circle k and Lidl selling them, is there an assumption they’re poor quality.

More likely its because they fear a test conducted by an amateur on themself is less reliable than an objective test carried out by a professional and I have sympathy with that.

Antigen tests have their use. I didn't agree with Holohan's comments about the Lidl Antigen kits but only because I'd have preferred if he had helped people learn how to use them properly.