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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • #4862
    NIAC Fanboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭NIAC Fanboy


    the kelt wrote: »
    Its the "alright boss" variant by all accounts!

    The (Sn)ker variant.

    Tony should visit the halting sites like mother T visited the slums of India.


  • #4863
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Ballynally wrote: »
    I am signing off this thread and possibly this forum.
    I am not cut out for it.
    Too many people who see issues as a binary thing. Use any metaphor you like: on/off switch, blue/red pill, black/white team.
    Maybe the real virus running through the world is a digital one, just 0 and 1.
    Pick your team, kill the enemy, find their weak spot and attack.
    No hesitancy at all. No qualms. Just let rip.
    I have reached the ceiling of my tolerance and the interaction in this and other threads is mainly negative.
    Byebye..

    What I am fed up with is those inventing imaginary enemies to rant at while the rest of the country gets on with receiving their vaccines and the process of getting back to normal


  • #4864
    NIAC Fanboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭NIAC Fanboy


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    What I am fed up with is those inventing imaginary enemies to rant at


    I agree, stuff like


    ‘Explosive multiplier effect’
    'delta variant'

    Etc. With just a trickle left in hospital, Tony could really move on instead of driving around looking for shaming opportunities.


  • #4865
    Analogs daughter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 ✭Analogs daughter


    The irony of making a big song and dance about travelling down to Limerick shouldn't be lost on people.

    The virus is rampant amongst a particular demographic in Limerick. We all know this. Unfortunately, our society won't let us address that fact.

    In the hospital I work in, our numbers were kept artificially high in March with admissions from this group. They have more co-morbidities as a rule and are thus disproportionately affected by the virus.
    Instead of the CMO telling us this instead he's making out that Limerick is about to become Wuhan part 2.

    It's a disgrace what's happening and is further evidence of the complete disregard by NPHET of the science/medicine behind the virus.


  • #4866
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,927 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Captain_Crash wrote: »
    I see Tony is on the way to Limerick with SD this morning to meet with pal TD’s regarding Limerick case numbers. Putting my personal opinions on him aside for a moment, I take huge issue with an unelected advisor being involved in government meetings such as this where is is likely he will have an input greater than his position should dictate.

    By all means advise, but being involved in government discussions such as this is a step too far for me!

    Are you for real? Do you have any idea how many 'un elected' officials are involved in govt discussions and meetings every single day?


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  • #4867
    NIAC Fanboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭NIAC Fanboy


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    Are you for real? Do you have any idea how many 'un elected' officials are involved in govt discussions and meetings every single day?

    The key words are "such as this"

    This is a publicity stunt, nothing more.

    Watch the politicians afterwards

    "I got guarantees on XXX vaccination centre facility"

    "assurances were given that extra funding for the hospital would be made available"

    "I reiterated it is critical for hospitality to be allowed open"

    Etc. Etc.


  • #4868
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Limerick is a small city, the community involved is tiny.... a perfect trial run for alternatives to lock down.

    RAT could easily be provided in a couple of hours across a 1,000 or 2,000 people in the city....but, as we know, Tony Houlihan has only one gear, max lock down....it's been 16 months now, you'd wonder when the penny will drop?


  • #4869
    the kelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭the kelt


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    Limerick is a small city, the community involved is tiny.... a perfect trial run for alternatives to lock down.

    RAT could easily be provided in a couple of hours across a 1,000 or 2,000 people in the city....but, as we know, Tony Houlihan has only one gear, max lock down....it's been 16 months now, you'd wonder when the penny will drop?

    Alternatives to lock down!!!

    What is this witchcraft you speak about? Ill not have it.


  • #4870
    NIAC Fanboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭NIAC Fanboy


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    Limerick is a small city, the community involved is tiny.... a perfect trial run for alternatives to lock down.

    RAT could easily be provided in a couple of hours across a 1,000 or 2,000 people in the city....but, as we know, Tony Houlihan has only one gear, max lock down....it's been 16 months now, you'd wonder when the penny will drop?

    There's more than one way to skin a cat!!!!!

    What a shocking suggestion.


  • #4871
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    the kelt wrote: »
    Alternatives to lock down!!!

    What is this witchcraft you speak about? Ill not have it.

    I know i keep forgetting...

    We all need to pretend that every other country in the world is as wedded to hard lock downs as we are and it's the science....the science tells us we don't need RAT or Therapeutics...that's just far right anti science....I might actually start using a rosary bead to help me remember the different stages of science, each bead can represent a variant of concern!!!


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  • #4872
    PhoneMain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭PhoneMain


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    I know i keep forgetting...

    We all need to pretend that every other country in the world is as wedded to hard lock downs as we are and it's the science....the science tells us we don't need RAT or Therapeutics...that's just far right anti science....I might actually start using a rosary bead to help me remember the different stages of science, each bead can represent a variant of concern!!!


    do you know of any therapeutics available to treat Covid19?


  • #4873
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    PhoneMain wrote: »
    do you know of any therapeutics available to treat Covid19?

    How would I know?

    I'd imagine you'd have to ask experienced doctors that question...

    Do you think it's believable that 15 months into this, not one expert practitioner has found success with a therapeutic anywhere in the world?


  • #4874
    Allinall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,270 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    How would I know?

    I'd imagine you'd have to ask experienced doctors that question...

    Do you think it's believable that 15 months into this, not one expert practitioner has found success with a therapeutic anywhere in the world?

    Do you think it's believable that if a therapeutic treatment was found to be successful we wouldn't have heard about it?


  • #4875
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Allinall wrote: »
    Do you think it's believable that if a therapeutic treatment was found to be successful we wouldn't have heard about it?

    Well, time will tell won't it.


  • #4876
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,420 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Allinall wrote: »
    Do you think it's believable that if a therapeutic treatment was found to be successful we wouldn't have heard about it?

    Don't be Silly, Tony should be down in Limerick treating people with therapeutics that don't exist. Something, something, Rat....

    Meanwhile.
    The Department of Health has released the latest COVID-19 figures as vaccination numbers are within touching distance of three million


  • #4877
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Boggles wrote: »
    Don't be Silly, Tony should be down in Limerick treating people with therapeutics that don't exist. Something, something, Rat....

    Meanwhile.

    Ha ha haaaaaa....oh Boggles...never change!!!


  • #4878
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,420 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    PhoneMain wrote: »
    do you know of any therapeutics available to treat Covid19?
    Silentcorner wrote: »
    How would I know?
    Silentcorner wrote: »
    Ha ha haaaaaa....oh Boggles...never change!!!

    Hmmmmmmmm.


  • #4879
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Boggles wrote: »
    Hmmmmmmmm.

    I keep forgetting what I'm dealing with here.....

    Therapeutics have existed for a long time.

    I don't know of a therapeutic that is effective to treat Covid....apparently no one knows the answer to that one....so how would I know.

    But therapeutics have existed for a long time to treat a myriad of ailments...


  • #4880
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,420 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    I don't know of a therapeutic that is effective to treat Covid....apparently no one knows the answer to that one....so how would I know.

    Why mention them so as an alternative to mitigation? That's quite strange, I mean if you know them not to exist.

    Anyway we have something far better.

    Prevention is better than cure, etc.


  • #4881
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,337 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    I keep forgetting what I'm dealing with here.....

    Therapeutics have existed for a long time.

    I don't know of a therapeutic that is effective to treat Covid....apparently no one knows the answer to that one....so how would I know.

    But therapeutics have existed for a long time to treat a myriad of ailments...

    What was the one they treated Trump with? It has a long name beginning with R and it seemed pretty effective on him? Redemsivir or something it was called? There are therapeutic drugs for sure but with viruses in general drugs never work as well as they do against bacterial or parasitic infections. Ever wonder why it’s only viruses that can cause these kind of pandemics?


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  • #4882
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    MadYaker wrote: »
    What was the one they treated Trump with? It has a long name beginning with R and it seemed pretty effective on him? Redemsivir or something it was called? There are therapeutic drugs for sure but with viruses in general drugs never work as well as they do against bacterial or parasitic infections.

    Ya I think it was that one...an expensive one at that, he did mention he was talking Hydroxichloroquine as well previous to that....I have seen practicing doctors in Ireland and the US claim great success if used early on, Ivermectin has been used in a few countries as well, very cheap treatment looks to be used to good effect....but we know what happens to doctors who don't advocate hard lock downs or who publicly state they use therapeutics to great effect!!!

    In the US the CDC told doctors not to use therapeutics, but the reputation of the CDC is eroding day by day....I believe the HSE issued similar messages to Irish GPs.

    Interesting conversation here, have a look at the first 20 mins.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn_b4NRTB6k&t=1317s


  • #4883
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,420 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    Ivermectin has been used in a few countries as well, very cheap treatment looks to be used to good effect....but we know what happens to doctors who don't advocate hard lock downs or who publicly state they use therapeutics to great effect!!!

    Ding, Ding, Ding.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=117344522&postcount=4880


  • #4884
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Boggles wrote: »
    Ding, Ding, Ding.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=117344522&postcount=4880

    The drug is off patent....makes no difference what Merck say.


  • #4885
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,420 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    The drug is off patent....makes no difference what Merck say.

    Makes no difference what the actual manufacturer of the drug say?

    We should listen to AntiVaxBob55 instead?


  • #4886
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Boggles wrote: »
    Makes no difference what the actual manufacturer of the drug say?

    We should listen to AntiVaxBob55 instead?

    Ok Boggles....lets find out what you are made of.


    Who do you think are the grifters here...

    The Drug manufacturer who have no way of making money from a drug they used to produce.

    or

    A doctor, a leading expert, with decades experience who has used a very cheap drug to treat his patients with great effect.

    Because he ain't the only person who has used that drug bear in mind....it's dirt cheap.

    But you trust the Pharma company!!!


  • #4887
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,667 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Does anyone else just despise Tony Holohan? Not like, he's a bit of prick but actually wish bad on him? I blame our spineless "leaders" unable to stand up to him just as much. The CMO has run this country into the ground and brainwashed people into some sort of defacto fascist state that is ok.

    I'd love to be able say he has the good of the country at heart but he doesn't he has eaten himself with his "fame". He can literally dictate public policy and influence the highest leaders by using his twitter account. That's real power, democracy is overrated.


  • #4888
    PhoneMain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭PhoneMain


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    How would I know?

    I'd imagine you'd have to ask experienced doctors that question...

    Do you think it's believable that 15 months into this, not one expert practitioner has found success with a therapeutic anywhere in the world?


    Because most viruses dont respond to medications. Hence why people still get colds. Conservative management is the mainstay of treatment for most viral courses. there's some witch doctors who say that Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine works but that's based on the lowest form of medicine.....their own experience! If they feel so strongly about it, they should organise peer reviewed, double blind, randomised control trials......but then they've already been orgainsed and shown to not work!


  • #4889
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,420 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    Ok Boggles....lets find out what you are made of.


    Who do you think are the grifters here...

    The Drug manufacturer who have no way of making money from a drug they used to produce.

    They still produce it, all though the bulk of it gets donated, primarily to threat river blindness in developing countries.

    Silentcorner wrote: »
    A doctor, a leading expert, with decades experience who has used a very cheap drug to treat his patients with great effect.

    Because he ain't the only person who has used that drug bear in mind....it's dirt cheap.

    But you trust the Pharma company!!!

    So there is a doctor using a drug that hasn't been authorized for use beyond clinical trials?

    Can't wait to hear about this person, who are they?


  • #4890
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,215 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    https://www.buzz.ie/music/phoenix-park-music-festival-covid-24250382

    Farse


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  • #4891
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    rob316 wrote: »
    Does anyone else just despise Tony Holohan? Not like, he's a bit of prick but actually wish bad on him? I blame our spineless "leaders" unable to stand up to him just as much. The CMO has run this country into the ground and brainwashed people into some sort of defacto fascist state that is ok.

    He has a very dominating personality, very similar to an arrogant Bishop....he likes the publicity this have given him, he enjoys the power that comes with his position, I think this role has got the better of him, he has succumb to his own weaknesses....

    I'll bet he went all fuzzy inside when he heard about the mural they painted of him in Dublin...probably drove over in the middle of the night to look at himself.

    The wrong man at the wrong time...we'll see how bad this gets when they finally get about seeing to the nearly 1 million people on waiting lists.


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