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Newstalk Megathread 22/08/16 to date

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  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    meeeeh wrote: »
    If I remember correctly majority of 5 billon of permanent spending is going on health care. I'm too busy to google that at the moment however we could hardly call trying to reduce waiting lists, increasing the number of doctors and similar waste of money. However I'm open to your justification for why it's waste of money.

    I don't think it's a waste of money. where did I say it was? What are you on about?

    I quite simply stated that the chap "The poster was obviously referring to pubs that were doing very little business pre covid and now are financially better off with PUP and the other supports.

    Those cases are independent of cases where PUP etc are being abused so your rant of a post is not at all on topic"

    I didn't bold the bit about permanent spending as it was independent to the PU point that you went off on a rant about.

    Your point
    meeeeh wrote: »
    So any of you who think PUP and other supports were wasted go and run your own business employ people and feel responsible for their financial situation and then tell me how PUP was waste of money.

    Was about supports to businesses.

    You are now ranting for the sake of ranting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Augeo wrote: »
    I don't think it's a waste of money. where did I say it was? What are you on about?

    I quite simply stated that the chap "The poster was obviously referring to pubs that were doing very little business pre covid and now are financially better off with PUP and the other supports.

    Those cases are independent of cases where PUP etc are being abused so your rant of a post is not at all on topic"

    I didn't bold the bit about permanent spending as it was independent to the PU point that you went off on a rant about.

    Your point

    Was about supports to businesses.

    You are now ranting for the sake of ranting.

    I think darling large chip on one's shoulder and too much time on their hands are not a good combo. So I will bow out of discussion with you about what another poster was saying in their post and what I was commenting (or ranting if you wish) on.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    meeeeh wrote: »
    I think darling large chip on one's shoulder and too much time on their hands are not a good combo. So I will bow out of discussion with you about what another poster was saying in their post and what I was commenting (or ranting if you wish) on.

    Splendid, I could almost hear you :)
    Have a good day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,868 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Not sure who to dislike more: Paul Murphy or the rep of the Irish Parking Association


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    Not sure who to dislike more: Paul Murphy or the rep of the Irish Parking Association

    Paul Murphy , it's close, but unless they had someone like Hitler on it will always be Paul Murphy


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Pauls default argument is that the government should pay for everything funded by taxes on companies and the wealthy. He was on today arguing for free public transport and increased public transport funded by a tax on the wealthy that would bring in an extra 3 billion.
    Other days you'll hear him arguing for open borders, free housing for any asylum seekers who arrive here and public funded social housing.

    https://www.letusrise.ie/what-we-stand-for
    Nationalise everything, Dunnes, Tesco, Supervalue etc etc !

    Nationalise the banking system and the core sectors of the economy currently controlled by major corporations, including construction, natural resources, the big retail chains, logistics, distribution, transport and telecommunications, and run them as part of a democratically planned economy to serve people's needs not profit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    Pauls default argument is that the government should pay for everything funded by taxes on companies and the wealthy. He was on today arguing for free public transport and increased public transport funded by a tax on the wealthy that would bring in an extra 3 billion.
    Other days you'll hear him arguing for open borders, free housing for any asylum seekers who arrive here and public funded social housing.

    https://www.letusrise.ie/what-we-stand-for
    Nationalise everything, Dunnes, Tesco, Supervalue etc etc !

    Nationalise the banking system and the core sectors of the economy currently controlled by major corporations, including construction, natural resources, the big retail chains, logistics, distribution, transport and telecommunications, and run them as part of a democratically planned economy to serve people's needs not profit.

    not sure how this socialist utopia will work. I could see it working better in other counties where the population may all work together and be happy to subsidise the rest who won't. But I think we have too many people in the country who are used to getting everything for nothing already, making it easier by taxing the people who work is not the answer

    He is delusional. The SF spokeswoman for finance is on now. She seems to be of the mindset of PUP forever as well. I'd sooner have a potato in charge of finance than any of those


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    2smiggy wrote: »
    .............The SF spokeswoman for finance is on now. She seems to be of the mindset of PUP forever as well. I'd sooner have a potato in charge of finance than any of those

    I thought Ciara K did a good job with questioning the SF finance spokesperson (I was going to say finance expert but :pac: ) .............. unfortunately any businesses that close or don't reopen by Oct when their industries are free to open ...... well their staff will have to go on JSA, the PUP isn't an appropriate payment for them by then.

    If the €350/week PUP was paid indefinitely than many folk wouldn't bother looking for jobs to replace their €400/€450 per week gig that is gone.

    I can't fathom why SF can't admit that rather than going to the extreme lefty view on everything.

    No one who works in construction should be given the PUP now, sector is open....... if you are now unemployed there's JSA.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Shane Coleman's ranting about Portmarnock Golf Club allowing women become full members is painful. It's a private club and it's their own business who they allow become members even if it doesn't suit his pc agenda. Personally, I couldn't care less as I can't stand golf but SC is a pain in the hole.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,868 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Shane Coleman's ranting about Portmarnock Golf Club allowing women become full members is painful. It's a private club and it's their own business who they allow become members even if it doesn't suit his pc agenda. Personally, I couldn't care less as I can't stand golf but SC is a pain in the hole.

    Exactly.
    Sick of the woke spin put on everything. Who fcuking cares what a private toffee nosed golf club does?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    I don't agree with Ciara a lot of the time, but Shane Coleman is ten times more painful.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,539 ✭✭✭ghostdancer


    Anyone noticed how introductions to pieces are lifted wholesale from the Irish Times facebook links/IT pieces?

    eg:
    https://www.facebook.com/irishtimes/posts/10158332031876158
    The Irish Times
    13h
    It only took 127 years for change to come about but, finally, the men-only membership policy at Portmarnock Golf Club in north county Dublin – which stubbornly stuck to its exclusion of women members since its founding in 1894 – has overwhelmingly voted for change.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/golf/portmarnock-golf-club-votes-to-admit-women-as-members-1.4576084


    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/golf/portmarnock-golf-club-votes-to-admit-women-as-members-1.4576084
    It only took 127 years for change to come about but, finally, the men-only membership policy at Portmarnock Golf Club in north county Dublin – which stubbornly stuck to its exclusion of women members since its founding in 1894 – has overwhelmingly voted for change.

    In the end, it wasn’t even close. In a.....
    ..
    ...


    Shane Coleman's intro this morning:
    It only took 127 years for change to come about but, finally, the men-only membership policy at Portmarnock Golf Club in north county Dublin – which stubbornly stuck to its exclusion of women members since its founding in 1894 – has overwhelmingly voted for change.

    Listen back around 8:50am this morning to hear him say it verbatim....

    I've noticed a few other times too. Probably loads of incidents for anyone bothered to look.

    Are the researchers/producers that lazy that they can't write a sentence or two intro themselves?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,423 ✭✭✭leath_dub


    Israeli ambassador on the Hard Shoulder giving a masterclass in not answering questions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    I see Susan Keogh has left.

    Twitter post seems to indicate it's her decision.

    Another SJW gone, thankfully.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,570 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Pussyhands wrote: »
    I see Susan Keogh has left.

    Twitter post seems to indicate it's her decision.

    A terrible loss, if true. Was a real shame she wasn’t given a proper morning show on the weekends. Newstalk is brutal before ‘Off The Ball’ on a Saturday and before 11am on a Sunday.

    Originally thought she was a shoe in for the ‘Lunchtime Live’ slot but still don’t think I would have listened if they persisted with the dreadful Live Line knock off.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Ind. Councillor and Gaeilgeoir Peter Kavanagh (ex.Green Party) on The Hard Shoulder now flogging the dead horse that is the Irish language - the Greens are well rid of him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,868 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Ind. Councillor and Gaeilgeoir Peter Kavanagh (ex.Green Party) on The Hard Shoulder now flogging the dead horse that is the Irish language - the Greens are well rid of him.

    Let's have more government tweets that no-one will read.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,356 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Denis O'Brien had a conference call with Communicorp employees on his last day of involvement with the group today, where he instructed the Irish Times ban to be lifted.

    https://www.independent.ie/business/denis-obrien-marks-last-day-as-owner-of-radio-brands-by-telling-staff-its-time-to-lift-irish-times-ban-40489447.html


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    marno21 wrote: »
    Denis O'Brien had a conference call with Communicorp employees on his last day of involvement with the group today, where he instructed the Irish Times ban to be lifted.

    https://www.independent.ie/business/denis-obrien-marks-last-day-as-owner-of-radio-brands-by-telling-staff-its-time-to-lift-irish-times-ban-40489447.html

    Not sure I'd be glad of this, if I were the object of his kiss of death
    In a final call with staff, Mr O’Brien is understood to have thanked employees and singled out individual contributions to the group, including from chairwoman Lucy Gaffney and veteran presenters Pat Kenny of Newstalk and Ian Dempsey of Today FM.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


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    bit of this on the show this morning.

    there are a few no doubt a bit nervous at the moment

    I think anyone except Pat Kenny or Sean Moncrieff should be


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Morning slot has to go with those two fools anyways.

    Cuddihy isn't a big enough name or a heavy enough puncher to hold drive time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    Pussyhands wrote: »
    Morning slot has to go with those two fools anyways.

    Cuddihy isn't a big enough name or a heavy enough puncher to hold drive time.

    agree with the morning slot. I am sorting of warming to Cuddihy a bit. He's no Ivan or George, but they could do a lot worse.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    2smiggy wrote: »
    agree with the morning slot. I am sorting of warming to Cuddihy a bit. He's no Ivan or George, but they could do a lot worse.

    Cuddihy is ok to listen to, but he really tries too hard to be "tough" but all his opinions are populist. Imagine Ivan talking about the young people and housing, he'd be saying the young people of old made sacrafices to save up etc. I mightn't agree with everything hed say but he'd come out with some things most others would be too afraid to say.

    They haven't even changed the format of the show, it's just trying to be Ivan's show...thursday interview etc.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Pussyhands wrote: »
    Morning slot has to go with those two fools anyways. .............

    Yes, Ciara might have to go fulltime on the 'gram :pac:


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Wonder if Bauer have any interest in developing DAB here now that RTÉ has pulled away from it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Why do people think Bauer media will suddenly start making programmes for those bitter right wing listeners who feel slighted at the moment. It's not like they have much buying power and advertiser appeal.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,791 ✭✭✭robo


    Was there not an influx of Irish Times journalists on Newstalk this morning?
    I can't believe that this was allowed to go on by the "journalists" working at the radio station - imagine if a newspaper refused ink on of their stories/insights/pictures etc ... Sure Ciara Kelly would be up on the soap box about it all :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    meeeeh wrote: »
    Why do people think Bauer media will suddenly start making programmes for those bitter right wing listeners who feel slighted at the moment. It's not like they have much buying power and advertiser appeal.

    who said anything about 'right wing' ?


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    robo wrote: »
    Was there not an influx of Irish Times journalists on Newstalk this morning?
    I can't believe that this was allowed to go on by the "journalists" working at the radio station - imagine if a newspaper refused ink on of their stories/insights/pictures etc ... Sure Ciara Kelly would be up on the soap box about it all :rolleyes:

    I don't know what you expect them to do. If they walk people aren't just going to hire them because they took a stand. If anything that would put off potential employers.

    I'm sure there was no issues among staff at the IT and Newstalk themselves and that this issue was very much about one man whose ego was hurt and there was nothing anybody could do about it.

    Now that he's gone, the ban will be lifted, and everything will be as it should be again.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭Ahwell


    Faugheen wrote: »
    I don't know what you expect them to do.

    One of them did do something. Sean Moncrieff started writing a column for the Irish Times very soon after the ban was put in place. Which did put Communicorp in quite a position.


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