Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI Read OP For Mod Warnings

pjohnson · 31-05-2021 08:47AM

Dempo1 wrote: »

Worth mentioning it wasn't just Teens taking the P*** (no pun intended) there was as many adults present who you think might have more cop on

Someone has to "raise" those teens so of course adults at it to.

Besides, its the governments fault not John Joe's that he is shítting in the street. No responsibility for their actions just blame government for everything.

silverharp · 31-05-2021 08:48AM

boetstark wrote: »

Well if you wager money on that you are a poor gambler.
Suicides are down over 200 last year from549 in 2019.

i would have expected suicides to be lower in 2020 just on the basis that everyone had their circumstances changed and there was a bit of a war time spirit that brought people together psychologically. Its really a question of how how quickly things get back to normal.
Or possibly the lesson is how toxic parts of modern life are for certain people?

Lumen · 31-05-2021 08:49AM

Let he who has never urinated in public cast the first stone.

_Kaiser_ · 31-05-2021 08:51AM

Pat Kenny is frothing at the mouth to have a go about this - "is it possible to have an outdoor summer without the yobs ruining it" he asks.

In that one sentence he highlights the complete disconnect between people like himself and the decision makers (wealthy upper middle class types with big houses and gardens and friends whose ideas of a gathering are a few glasses of wine and a discussion on politics or something) and the younger people they're now attacking for doing what they were told to (excluding the rubbish and defecating - but as I said yesterday, it's not exactly a surprise with no facilities provided for this "outdoor summer" notion)

Richard Hillman · 31-05-2021 08:54AM

Bank Holiday weekend coming up. Weather looks patchy for showers but it will be warm and clear in the evenings.

Tony will be out to inspect, I'm sure

celt262 · 31-05-2021 08:54AM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Pat Kenny is frothing at the mouth to have a go about this - "is it possible to have an outdoor summer without the yobs ruining it" he asks.

In that one sentence he highlights the complete disconnect between people like himself and the decision makers (wealthy upper middle class types with big houses and gardens and friends whose ideas of a gathering are a few glasses of wine and a discussion on politics or something) and the younger people they're now attacking for doing what they were told to (excluding the rubbish and defecating - but as I said yesterday, it's not exactly a surprise with no facilities provided for this "outdoor summer" notion)

Were the Council notified in advance to provided facilities for this gathering?

machiavellianme · 31-05-2021 08:55AM

Lumen wrote: »

Let he who has never urinated in public cast the first stone.

You're making a bold assumption about the ladies there

boetstark · 31-05-2021 08:57AM

silverharp wrote: »

i would have expected suicides to be lower in 2020 just on the basis that everyone had their circumstances changed and there was a bit of a war time spirit that brought people together psychologically. Its really a question of how how quickly things get back to normal.
Or possibly the lesson is how toxic parts of modern life are for certain people?

Good point

VinLieger · 31-05-2021 09:05AM

celt262 wrote: »

Were the Council notified in advance to provided facilities for this gathering?

People have been told they can meet outdoors, what do the powers that be expect to happen? Not providing adequate facilities for the outdoor summer they keep lauding is going top lead to a summer of this happening again and again.

They now know this is gonna happen, they should dedicate spaces with extra bins and toilets for it, continuing the head in sand finger wagging approach isn't going to achieve anything.

NIAC Fanboy · 31-05-2021 09:06AM

celt262 wrote: »

Were the Council notified in advance to provided facilities for this gathering?

Yes, the outdoor summer concept has been well flagged at this stage, it must be 6 weeks since Claire Byrne featured it and all the usual were calling for more bins and toilets etc.

Below for example is how Clare Co. Co. responded.

Ahead of the anticipated arrival of large numbers of people to our beaches this May Bank Holiday Weekend, Clare County Council is providing additional significant resources in the areas of public toilet facilities, and litter and traffic management.

Dempo1 · 31-05-2021 09:10AM

Take a listen to Pat Kenny talking with Luke O Neill, Melbourne locked down after one case, now it's spread to 2 care homes and beyond , I'll say no more.....

Dempo1 · 31-05-2021 09:12AM

pjohnson wrote: »

Someone has to "raise" those teens so of course adults at it to.

Besides, its the governments fault not John Joe's that he is shítting in the street. No responsibility for their actions just blame government for everything.

I'm referring to Adults actually present, I'm certainly not bla government, Time people took responsibility for their own behaviour which inevitably will affect others

Leroy42 · 31-05-2021 09:13AM

So the excuse line seems to be that people can turn up with foods, drinks etc expecting bins to be provided (which they never are regardless of the pandemic) but when they have consumed the food etc and have only the waste packaging left they have no alternative but to throw it on the ground?

And they are entitled to because they don't have big gardens and have had things tough the last year!!!

prunudo · 31-05-2021 09:17AM

VinLieger wrote: »

People have been told they can meet outdoors, what do the powers that be expect to happen? Not providing adequate facilities for the outdoor summer they keep lauding is going top lead to a summer of this happening again and again.

They now know this is gonna happen, they should dedicate spaces with extra bins and toilets for it, continuing the head in sand finger wagging approach isn't going to achieve anything.

Not only that, the same powers that be closed other public areas which then meant there was a greater volume congregating in the one of the few open areas left open.

Yes nobody was 'forced' to congregate but alas we are social creatures by nature so it was inevitable to happen.

Also on the littering, plenty of overflowing bins at other beauty spots around the country over the weekend so its too convenient for certain sections of the media to only be blaming the youngsters in town for not bringing their rubbish home.
The level of finger wagging and grandstanding by many is actually pathetic.

SNNUS · 31-05-2021 09:17AM

Dempo1 wrote: »

I've seen the video's, Ive heard the reaction to the free for all in Dublin and other locations

It's quite extraordinary the narrative seems to be these Naughty people didn't clean up after themselves, TUT TUT and whilst one disgraceful aspect of this carry on, liitle of no commentary about the unbelievable lack of social distancing and not a mask to be seen anywhere, unless you were a Garda dealing with this debacle.

I do not want to see a nanny state, I glad restrictions easing but mother of God have we learned nothing. This was not just a gathering, it was a free for all and the selfishness displayed quite appalling, spare a thought too for business owners already struggling having to close early and clean up the mess, but of course thinking of others not necessarily a priority by all accounts.

Roll on the Hysterical reactions........

Roll on the Hysterical reaction.

bear1 · 31-05-2021 09:17AM

Dempo1 wrote: »

Take a listen to Pat Kenny talking with Luke O Neill, Melbourne locked down after one case, now it's spread to 2 care homes and beyond , I'll say no more.....

What has this got to do with anything?
I'd love to know if there are any other countries using Ireland as an example to push their agendas that we shouldn't be allowed outside, inside, near another human etc.
This also coming from a country which suggested people wear masks if they have sex.

31-05-2021 09:18AM

and now cometh the threats!!! of local lockdowns!!

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/uknews/varadkar-issues-stark-warning-that-ireland-is-at-risk-of-fourth-wave/ar-AAKyu1s?li=BBr5KbJ

Boggles · 31-05-2021 09:19AM

Whatsisname wrote: »

Outdoor hospitality opened up the following weekend and about 80% of the people and rubbish disappeared immediately.

That won't happen here.

Too few seats, too much demand if the weather is decent.

You'll have 16 people sitting down and multiples of that around them. The tables particular for pubs will be somewhere to leave empties. Should be more toilets though and less litter.

As for Manchester, I remember years ago being over there during the summer and they had security limiting the amounts that could go down certain streets, maybe an idea for the summer here.

Also, the vast vast majority of people who indulged in a few outdoor pints this past weekend were not in that covid mosh pit on those few streets in Dublin, nor did they defecate on the roads or wreck the place.

SNNUS · 31-05-2021 09:20AM

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1399251561575026688?s=19

Punishment Lockdowns are coming.

namloc1980 · 31-05-2021 09:20AM

This whole thing is the governments Covid strategy in a nutshell: let's tell everyone to go outdoors for the summer, let's also not provide any facilities for this.

Having said that the next time I hear young people talking about climate change and saving the planet and how older generations wrecked the place - they can fook right off. Throwing rubbish all over the place and expecting others to pick up their crap.

VinLieger · 31-05-2021 09:22AM

Leroy42 wrote: »

So the excuse line seems to be that people can turn up with foods, drinks etc expecting bins to be provided (which they never are regardless of the pandemic) but when they have consumed the food etc and have only the waste packaging left they have no alternative but to throw it on the ground?

And they are entitled to because they don't have big gardens and have had things tough the last year!!!

Have you seen what happens at beaches up and down the country when the sun hits and there isnt a pandemic? This always happens, Irish people are disgusting its not gonna change over night.

I agree people should bring home their rubbish but they simply dont so yes the government should be aware of this possibility and after lauding the "outdoor summer" they have not done any preparation for it.

You can criticise the people but when the government come out with the finger wagging attitude it is the height of ignorance and shows once again how disconnected they are.

bear1 · 31-05-2021 09:24AM

SNNUS wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1399251561575026688?s=19

Punishment Lockdowns are coming.

Moronic threat.

timmyntc · 31-05-2021 09:24AM

SNNUS wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1399251561575026688?s=19

Punishment Lockdowns are coming.

Christ.

People are going to drink and meet up regardless - so if you chastise them for meeting outdoors in a ventilated environment, and have the gardai move them on constantly, they will just throw house parties!

Risk of transmission from a few cans outdoors in minimal, risk of transmission from house parties is quite high. But of course our learned leaders can't appreciate that fact

VinLieger · 31-05-2021 09:27AM

SNNUS wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1399251561575026688?s=19

Punishment Lockdowns are coming.

This will cause mass civil disobedience, its stupid to make a threat like this that they cannot follow through with.

mightyreds · 31-05-2021 09:27AM

SNNUS wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1399251561575026688?s=19

Punishment Lockdowns are coming.

Beatings will continue until moral improves

bear1 · 31-05-2021 09:28AM

VinLieger wrote: »

This will cause mass civil disobedience

Could you imagine the **** show if they closed the pubs to stop it?

Don't Chute! · 31-05-2021 09:28AM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Pat Kenny is frothing at the mouth to have a go about this - "is it possible to have an outdoor summer without the yobs ruining it" he asks.

In that one sentence he highlights the complete disconnect between people like himself and the decision makers (wealthy upper middle class types with big houses and gardens and friends whose ideas of a gathering are a few glasses of wine and a discussion on politics or something) and the younger people they're now attacking for doing what they were told to (excluding the rubbish and defecating - but as I said yesterday, it's not exactly a surprise with no facilities provided for this "outdoor summer" notion)

Ah yes, where would we be without Pat “not in my back yard” Kenny to tell all of us peasants how to live our lives from up on high in Dalkey eh?

Russman · 31-05-2021 09:29AM

bear1 wrote: »

He's some embarrassment.
One minute he's telling us all to be outside then he isn't.
Then the government tells us to be outside and then we shouldn't.
They just can't get a handle on how to exit their own mess without creating an even bigger one.

He probably thought it was possible for people to be outside without needing slabs of cans and not sh1t, p1$$ and litter on the streets of the city...........

VinLieger · 31-05-2021 09:29AM

bear1 wrote: »

Could you imagine the **** show if they closed the pubs to stop it?

They would lose their mandate to govern imo due to the anger it would cause.

Don't Chute! · 31-05-2021 09:32AM

Russman wrote: »

He probably thought it was possible for people to be outside without needing slabs of cans and not sh1t, p1$$ and litter on the streets of the city...........

No he’s just displaying yet again his complete lack of understanding of human nature.

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI Read OP For Mod Warnings