Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI Read OP For Mod Warnings

Silentcorner · 28-05-2021 08:15PM

paddyisreal wrote: »

So will ignore France, Germany, Holland, Spain, Britain etc who all have down this research already ?

Sure why not...we ignore the 20 odd States in the US that have long since abandoned the CDC and their stringent recommendations, the organisation we have been following for some time now, according to Leo.

(If anyone is interested, keep an eye on what is unfolding in the US, the CDC are starting to cop a bit of heat, interesting times)

castletownman · 28-05-2021 08:15PM

I've been as critical as anyone over the government's cautious approach, but am happy this evening that there is at least a timeline. My only gripe is the low numbers for the outdoor events, but it's great to have sport back anyway so not affecting me too much.

The best thing is, I am finished up in work on the Friday before the reopening of indoor pubs, so can definitely make a good fist of celebrating some semblance of normality.

28-05-2021 08:15PM

paddyisreal wrote: »

Still a country Miles behind every other country in Europe. Remind me again why are we the LAST country in Europe to open outdoor dining , cinemas, indoor dining ???

In the know, eh?

PTH2009 · 28-05-2021 08:27PM

Some crowd at the darts over in the UK and there cheering now

NPHET would be clinching there fists watching

Vaccinated30 · 28-05-2021 08:28PM

paddyisreal wrote: »

So will ignore France, Germany, Holland, Spain, Britain etc who all have down this research already ?

Well why did they not listen to other countries and conduct their own?

Silentcorner · 28-05-2021 08:32PM

Vaccinated30 wrote: »

Well why did they not listen to other countries and conduct their own?

Well we'd all be following Florida by your logic.

Cal4567 · 28-05-2021 08:33PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

We are very different nationalities, we act different to each other so this is why we have to do out own experiments. if we just copied them you would have people moaning that we should do our own experimental events. you cant win.

Not that different at all. I have spent many years working in the UK and can make my mind up on that basis. Doing our own experiments, a complete waste of time. Our lot are only doing it because we are behind the UK on vaccines. It's to try and gain some level of more weeks while we are in that crucial few weeks before we get to what had been seen as an acceptable level of vaccinations, 80%. That was supposed to be the end of June, it is now July.

ceadaoin. · 28-05-2021 08:34PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

Really? I thought it was a highly transmissible disease? we were in a small enclosed space and she was coughing.

Most people don't pass it on, even to people that they live with and share a bed with. The figure is around 1 in 10 transmit to household members. Numerous studies have shown this. Most of the spread is done by "superspreaders".

A total of 7,262 index cases with 17,917 at-risk individuals linked to the same addresses were included in the study.

Among at-risk individuals, 52.1% were female, and 38.4% lived in households with six to 10 people.

Metlay and colleagues found an overall incidence of 10.1% among those at risk for COVID-19 exposure through a household contact.

pgj2015 · 28-05-2021 08:38PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Most people don't pass it on, even to people that they live with and share a bed with. The figure is around 1 in 10 transmit to household members. Numerous studies have shown this. Most of the spread is done by "superspreaders".

My understanding of it was the new strain is way more contagious than the other strain we had here in 2020. They said if one person in a household got the old strain, everyone in the household might not contract covid but with the new strain, if one person has it in a household, everyone contracts it.

Captain_Crash · 28-05-2021 08:38PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

Really? I thought it was a highly transmissible disease? we were in a small enclosed space and she was coughing.

No, it’s more transmissible than flu, but not as highly transmissible as first believed. Being a close contact doesn’t mean you’ll catch it!

paddyisreal · 28-05-2021 08:40PM

Vaccinated30 wrote: »

Well why did they not listen to other countries and conduct their own?

Because as per usual we are last in the group.... And the data is available then

Silentcorner · 28-05-2021 08:41PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

My understanding of it was the new strain is way more contagious than the other strain we had here in 2020. They said if one person in a household got the old strain, everyone in the household might not contract covid but with the new strain, if one person has it in a household, everyone contracts it.

Who ever "they" is, stop listening to them...you'll thank me later!

PTH2009 · 28-05-2021 08:42PM

Who would of guessed we'd be more restrictive with the vaccines then were without them

VARIANTS are the cause

28-05-2021 08:43PM

Silentcorner wrote: »

Who ever "they" is, stop listening to them...you'll thank me later!

The worst thing you can do is listen to people who actually understand what they are talking about. Much better pay attention to random musings of the permanently outraged

Silentcorner · 28-05-2021 08:45PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Who would of guessed we'd be more restrictive with the vaccines then were without them

VARIANTS are the cause

We are like North Korea, that is our problem.

The public aren't allowed to hear contrarian views on media.

The Government have abandoned responsibility to health bureaucrats.

The Political Opposition want an even more stringent lock down.

The public are somewhere between complete zealots to completely confused and baffled by the sheer volume of illogical decision making that no one is allowed to question.

We need to snap out of this fast...

pgj2015 · 28-05-2021 08:45PM

Cal4567 wrote: »

Not that different at all. I have spent many years working in the UK and can make my mind up on that basis. Doing our own experiments, a complete waste of time. Our lot are only doing it because we are behind the UK on vaccines. It's to try and gain some level of more weeks while we are in that crucial few weeks before we get to what had been seen as an acceptable level of vaccinations, 80%. That was supposed to be the end of June, it is now July.

Well I think we are different. on your other point that our government are just stalling because we are behind the UK on vaccines, its a once in a 100 year event, cut them some slack. The vaccination project is going well here in fairness.

I was glad to hear Micheal Martin saying we have the best vaccine take up in Europe, shows our population is mostly smart and the paranoid tin foil hat wearers are only a minority.

paddyisreal · 28-05-2021 08:46PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

In the know, eh?

Still looking for yourself and a few ' follow the science etc' to tell us why we are the last country in europe for everything but sure that's what I expected.

pgj2015 · 28-05-2021 08:46PM

Silentcorner wrote: »

Who ever "they" is, stop listening to them...you'll thank me later!

The scientists.

ceadaoin. · 28-05-2021 08:48PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

My understanding of it was the new strain is way more contagious than the other strain we had here in 2020. They said if one person in a household got the old strain, everyone in the household might not contract covid but with the new strain, if one person has it in a household, everyone contracts it.

No that's not the case. Even if the new strains were 100% more transmissible (which they arent), that would only mean the figure goes to a 20% chance of household transmission as opposed to the previous 10%. That's not to say there hasn't been cases of entire households becoming infected, of course there has, its just not a given

ceadaoin. · 28-05-2021 08:51PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The worst thing you can do is listen to people who actually understand what they are talking about. Much better pay attention to random musings of the permanently outraged

Yeah whoever said that the new strain has a 100% infection rate clearly knows what they are talking about and we should all listen. Science.

28-05-2021 08:53PM

Silentcorner wrote: »

We are like North Korea, that is our problem.

The public aren't allowed to hear contrarian views on media.

The Government have abandoned responsibility to health bureaucrats.

The Political Opposition want an even more stringent lock down.

The public are somewhere between complete zealots to completely confused and baffled by the sheer volume of illogical decision making that no one is allowed to question.

We need to snap out of this fast...

This whole consistent relaxation of restrictions is really playing hell with people’s sense of perspective

Silentcorner · 28-05-2021 08:54PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The worst thing you can do is listen to people who actually understand what they are talking about. Much better pay attention to random musings of the permanently outraged

Well, you clearly haven't been listening to people who understand what they are talking about....

You've spent too much time listening to the hystericals.

Can you name one prediction of yours regarding this virus that has been remotely accurate?

28-05-2021 08:57PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Yeah whoever said that the new strain has a 100% infection rate clearly knows what they are talking about and we should all listen. Science.

Who said that?

Boggerman12 · 28-05-2021 09:01PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

why is it such a big deal to have to wear a mask?

Not natural.no use outside of hospital settings.we survived for centuries and centuries without them and will again.

Silentcorner · 28-05-2021 09:03PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

My understanding of it was the new strain is way more contagious than the other strain we had here in 2020. They said if one person in a household got the old strain, everyone in the household might not contract covid but with the new strain, if one person has it in a household, everyone contracts it.

Deleted User wrote: »

Who said that?

The fella that is listening to the same "scientists" as you are.

CalamariFritti · 28-05-2021 09:04PM

Was there any mention of when this will actually end? As in emergency legislation and everything coming to an end?

28-05-2021 09:08PM

Silentcorner wrote: »

Well, you clearly haven't been listening to people who understand what they are talking about....

You've spent too much time listening to the hystericals.

Can you name one prediction of yours regarding this virus that has been remotely accurate?

Unfortunately I predicted that pre existing infection with mild coronavirus species would result in quick herd immunity, that cases would not grow in the summer, that aerosol spread was not a significant consideration, that level 3 restrictions would be sufficient to control the virus over the winter and most shamefully of all, that the fanboys of snake oil salesmen online would see, once one by one each of their conclusions were thoroughly destroyed, that amateur contrarians out for a quick buck through peddling simplistic answers are not the best source of information on public health matters

28-05-2021 09:11PM

Silentcorner wrote: »

The fella that is listening to the same "scientists" as you are.

And was that informed opinion or random musings my friend? Because I believe that comment would more closely match the latter

pgj2015 · 28-05-2021 09:12PM

Boggerman12 wrote: »

Not natural.no use outside of hospital settings.we survived for centuries and centuries without them and will again.

not natural but most normal people don't mind wearing one in a pandemic. only weak minded people hate them from my experience. moaners who never stop complaining about the government.

Silentcorner · 28-05-2021 09:14PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Unfortunately I predicted that pre existing infection with mild coronavirus species would result in quick herd immunity, that cases would not grow in the summer, that aerosol spread was not a significant consideration, that level 3 restrictions would be sufficient to control the virus over the winter and most shamefully of all, that the fanboys of snake oil salesmen online would see, once one by one each of their conclusions were thoroughly destroyed, that amateur contrarians out for a quick buck through peddling simplistic answers are not the best source of information on public health matters

Oh another prickly response from Raind...

Have you ever thought that the snake oil salesmen were the one's you are listening to? Ever asked yourself that...

Because despite your impressive ability to get very nasty with people who don't agree with you, you have never once, predicted anything that has been remotely accurate....not once.

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI Read OP For Mod Warnings