Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

kilns wrote: »

July 19 is crazy, so a fully vaccinated person will have to quarantine if they wanted to come between now and then! Will be interesting to see the fine print later

My own case I will be fully vaccinated by mid June and will return to Ireland early July, I am lucky as I dont mind quarantining but its nuts that I will have to

What hypothetical scenario would you rather. Suppose 10 unexpected family visitors arrive unannounced to your house straight from the airport from 10 different locations, and for whatever reason, you have to host them for a week while they quarantine there:

Scenario 1) You are fully vaccinated but the 10 visitors have no vaccination
Scenario 2) You are not vaccinated, but the 10 visitors have been vaccinated.

You are not worried about passing it on to anyone else. You are just concerned with your own health so as to keep it simple. Which scenario is better for you?

Obviously the best scenario is a third one where you are fully vaccinated and they are fully vaccinated. But that isn't in the list for now

bubblypop wrote: »

Nobody is stopped coming into the country without an essential reason, that's just not true. .

I just want to ask about this part, why are immigration asking the reason for travelling to Ireland? If people can't be stopped I don't understand why they ask. Could I have refused to answer that question?

Will antigen testing be available in Ireland for travel?

The Certificate will be valid if one of the following apply:

Negative PCR test that is less than 72 hours old.
Negative rapid test that is less than 24 hours old.
Have tested positive for specific antibodies within the last 6 months.

https://twitter.com/EPPGroup/status/1395420301916360712

This is really sneaky to me

https://twitter.com/alanGbrereton/status/1397863842495991811

RobitTV wrote: »

This is really sneaky to me

https://twitter.com/alanGbrereton/status/1397863842495991811

They are going to go tooth and nail against antigen tests for travel. There'll be a big backlash on this, especially if the EC is providing them free of charge, which seems to be the indication.

Irish Daily Mail is back with more misinformation on the front page today :rolleyes::rolleyes:

"Irish holidaymakers can also look forward to trips abroad from July 19th, once they are fully vaccinated and provide a negative PCR test"

It's incredible the level misinformation that is currently running through this country. They don't want people travelling. They will continue to deceive people over the summer.

RobitTV wrote: »

https://twitter.com/alanGbrereton/status/1397948406027501573

I guess a positive is that destination countries will allow antigen, so it’s only pcr for the flight home

RobitTV wrote: »

Irish Daily Mail is back with more misinformation on the front page today

It's incredible the level misinformation that is currently running through this country. They don't want people travelling. They will continue to deceive people over the summer.

One of the papers this morning reported it as "ability to travel once you're fully vaccinated and have a negative PCR test as well". I'm surprised they didn't throw in a requirement to have recovered from covid as well while they were at it.

Theres no way all these journalists can be so thick - the EU rules and regulations are very clear, and are found with 30 seconds of Googling. Its obviously a narrative being pushed from government statements.

afatbollix wrote: »

Anyone thinking of traveling from UK to Ireland to see family just go ahead.

PCR tests are £40 to £60 now.

I'm vaccinated and so is my family so we get the vaccine bonus!

I had my NHS lateral flow tests which you can get for free which I did every day and the Irish Gov give you a free test on day 5. (You need an Irish phone number) You can stay in your house until then but no one is checking!

No issues going back to UK so fire ahead. Over 15 babies on our flight heading back to meet Grannys for the first time.

If you flew into Ireland on a Friday and were back at Dublin Airport Monday to fly back to the UK what happens on the Monday at the Airport do you know?

cottonsocks wrote: »

I can’t believe this. I live in the UK and haven’t been back to Ireland in 18 months. I was going to go home via Belfast recently, then thought ‘no, I’ll wait for the announcement’ because Dublin is a lot easier for me, and after all this now they seem to be indicating July 19th earliest for the UK?! They can stick it now at this stage. I’ll be coming via Belfast like thousands of others just fed up of this s**t.

Same. I came very close to changing my departure destination for end June to Dublin instead of belfast this week (thinking govt might do something logical based on a reasonable persons assessment of the risk of full CTA between NI and UK versus loss of jobs in Dublin).

Glad I didnt bother. Clearly Tony has spoken and that's literally the only thing FF take into account.

Must give a shout out also to the disgraceful Green party who have tourism and transport ministries and are just allowing Dublin airport lose another 6 weeks of business for no sensible reason when UK vaccinations are taken into account.

Roll on the general election.

Portugal relaxes safety rules for Saturdays football match. 80 flights due to arrive with fans plus those who turn up that are holidaying there.

https://www.aipsmedia.com/index.html?page=artdetail&art=29727


Will be interesting to see the figures in a few weeks


https://twitter.com/GlobalNewsToda3/status/1398236690691592193

brickster69 wrote: »

Portugal relaxes safety rules for Saturdays football match. 80 flights due to arrive with fans plus those who turn up that are holidaying there.

https://www.aipsmedia.com/index.html?page=artdetail&art=29727


Will be interesting to see the figures in a few weeks


https://twitter.com/GlobalNewsToda3/status/1398236690691592193

Well if they already have plenty of the Indian variant I doubt one football match will make much of a difference. It sounds like Portugal's president is expecting cases to rise in general and is perfectly happy about that given vaccination coverage:

https://www.portugalresident.com/marcelo-defends-changes-to-portugal-risk-matrix-to-take-vaccination-into-account/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=marcelo-defends-changes-to-portugal-risk-matrix-to-take-vaccination-into-account

From everything I’ve read over the last 24 hours I think it’s a safe bet the €2,000 fine remains until Midnight July 18th.

With the CTA with the UK not reopening until July 19th it seems all the stars have aligned for the government on this issue so anyone with travel plans before it needs to get their essential reason sorted prior to travelling.

A total disaster to be honest.