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Domestic Solar PV Quotes 2020

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭deravarra


    Query about something I am not 100% sure of after being told this by an installer:

    If you get a battery and have an EV car - when you charge at night, your battery will deplete first.
    My contra to him was: can't you set the car to draw from mains power only - making use of low night rates...

    But I was thinking of it again, and by the time I would be thinking about timing my late night charge, it would be at a time when nothing else would be using electricity anyways - or just a minimal amount.

    Thoughts anyone?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,181 ✭✭✭championc


    deravarra wrote: »
    Query about something I am not 100% sure of after being told this by an installer:

    If you get a battery and have an EV car - when you charge at night, your battery will deplete first.
    My contra to him was: can't you set the car to draw from mains power only - making use of low night rates...

    But I was thinking of it again, and by the time I would be thinking about timing my late night charge, it would be at a time when nothing else would be using electricity anyways - or just a minimal amount.

    Thoughts anyone?

    If you do not want to waste battery power when charging the car at night, you need to be mains charging the battery at that time. You should hopefully be able to set a schedule to charge between hh:mm and hh:mm with 0w. This would neither charge nor discharge.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 portbilly


    v10 wrote: »
    Update: Since my original post, I've now had 4 more quotes, the following is the best of them ...

    10 x 340w Panels
    4kw Hybrid Inverter
    4kw Battery
    Wifi Dongle for Monitoring etc
    No hot water diverter as I already have hot water covered

    €7000 less grant of €2820 = €4180. Happy with that I think ..

    @V10, I'm very interested in your last quote I've a PV 'engineer' calling today for survey not the '8` wondering if you could PM me supplier details I'm in Midlands,, thanks


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,280 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    deravarra wrote: »
    Query about something I am not 100% sure of after being told this by an installer:

    If you get a battery and have an EV car - when you charge at night, your battery will deplete first.
    My contra to him was: can't you set the car to draw from mains power only - making use of low night rates...

    But I was thinking of it again, and by the time I would be thinking about timing my late night charge, it would be at a time when nothing else would be using electricity anyways - or just a minimal amount.

    Thoughts anyone?

    So battery power is mains power for all intended purposes.

    If the car pulls 7kw, and the battery can output 3, the battery will put out 3 and the grid will make up 4.

    Although if there is a small battery, its unlikely that there will be much left in it by the time the car goes to charge.

    That or as championc says, setup the inverter to not discharge on night rate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭Niceday20


    graememk wrote: »
    So battery power is mains power for all intended purposes.

    If the car pulls 7kw, and the battery can output 3, the battery will put out 3 and the grid will make up 4.

    Although if there is a small battery, its unlikely that there will be much left in it by the time the car goes to charge.

    That or as championc says, setup the inverter to not discharge on night rate.

    I have just had a solar system installed (Solax hybrid inverter + DC battery) adding to an existing zappi charger and been faced with this problem.

    Whilst during the day the zappi can be configured to use 100% green (i.e. from solar) and an export margin ensuring there is always surplus to avoid battery drain, this does not work overnight.

    As championc and graememk say, I have been using Solax's "Force Time Use" work mode to disable the battery during the time the EV is charging overnight on the night rate tariff with some success, but it is down to me to remember to change the "work mode" from "self use" to "force time use".

    Having checked this with Solax, their recommendation was putting the EV charger on a separate board whereby the modbus meter that measures import is not picking up the load of the EV therefore it will not discharge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭deravarra


    Niceday20 wrote: »
    recommendation was putting the EV charger on a separate board whereby the modbus meter that measures import is not picking up the load of the EV therefore it will not discharge.

    Thats the very same advice I got in relation to battery and EV


  • Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭Scoopsire


    v10 wrote: »
    Update: Since my original post, I've now had 4 more quotes, the following is the best of them ...

    10 x 340w Panels
    4kw Hybrid Inverter
    4kw Battery
    Wifi Dongle for Monitoring etc
    No hot water diverter as I already have hot water covered

    €7000 less grant of €2820 = €4180. Happy with that I think ..

    Could you PM me the details of the installer please?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,181 ✭✭✭championc


    Niceday20 wrote: »
    Having checked this with Solax, their recommendation was putting the EV charger on a separate board whereby the modbus meter that measures import is not picking up the load of the EV therefore it will not discharge.

    If I understand correctly, you'd therefore need you zappi between the meter and the consumer unit / split off before all of your house MCB's. So by the sound of it, the Solax only discharges when it sees import, which is a bit strange rather than it being "on tap" so to speak, and I'm not sure that I believe it TBH.

    Electricity is drawn from the source with the highest voltage. An inverter sets its AC output a few volts higher than the grid voltage - albeit when it's coming from PV or from battery. So in my opinion, it sounds a bit odd that any system would use a modbus meter to decide to output current. It's not pushed from an inverter, it's pulled by the house load, until it's depleted.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,280 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    championc wrote: »
    If I understand correctly, you'd therefore need you zappi between the meter and the consumer unit / split off before all of your house MCB's. So by the sound of it, the Solax only discharges when it sees import, which is a bit strange rather than it being "on tap" so to speak, and I'm not sure that I believe it TBH.

    Electricity is drawn from the source with the highest voltage. An inverter sets its AC output a few volts higher than the grid voltage - albeit when it's coming from PV or from battery. So in my opinion, it sounds a bit odd that any system would use a modbus meter to decide to output current. It's not pushed from an inverter, it's pulled by the house load, until it's depleted.

    Its the same for all grid tied storage inverters, It monitors the Import/Export and then adjusts accordingly, The Sofar, Solis and Solax all work on the same principles.

    Sure it raises the voltage higher, but only enough to keep the balance.

    Having the EV charge point coming out at the meter would make this very handy. The zappi will still work fine, because its CT's will be just after the meter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭borus22222


    Scoopsire wrote: »
    Could you PM me the details of the installer please?

    Hi, would you please forward details for the installer?
    Ta!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,868 ✭✭✭Alkers


    v10 wrote: »
    Update: Since my original post, I've now had 4 more quotes, the following is the best of them ...

    10 x 340w Panels
    4kw Hybrid Inverter
    4kw Battery
    Wifi Dongle for Monitoring etc
    No hot water diverter as I already have hot water covered

    €7000 less grant of €2820 = €4180. Happy with that I think ..
    That's possibly the best price for a battery system we've seen, and not just a 2.4kWh pylontech to boot.

    1.23e per w installed, along with a hybrid inverter and 4kW battery.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 portbilly


    Scoopsire wrote: »
    Could you PM me the details of the installer please?
    @Scoopsshire, thanks for all your comments and work re quotes any chance you could PM your "happy with quote" supplier I'm in Laois


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭adrian92


    Does anyone know if it is ok to install a PV system with no SEAI or registered installers involved.

    Can I install myself or would that be against some rule ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭MAULBROOK


    adrian92 wrote: »
    Does anyone know if it is ok to install a PV system with no SEAI or registered installers involved.

    Can I install myself or would that be against some rule ?

    Of you go, your gaff, Your call


  • Registered Users Posts: 385 ✭✭Bobby04


    v10 wrote: »
    Update: Since my original post, I've now had 4 more quotes, the following is the best of them ...

    10 x 340w Panels
    4kw Hybrid Inverter
    4kw Battery
    Wifi Dongle for Monitoring etc
    No hot water diverter as I already have hot water covered

    €7000 less grant of €2820 = €4180. Happy with that I think ..

    Would you mind sending me supplier details by PM please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,136 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    adrian92 wrote: »
    Does anyone know if it is ok to install a PV system with no SEAI or registered installers involved.

    Definiteiy no problem with that.
    In fact anyone that doesnt qualify for the grant (houses occupied since 2011) would be going that route anyway.
    adrian92 wrote: »
    Can I install myself or would that be against some rule ?

    It would be against electrical regulations to be messing with the consumer unit. You are supposed to use registered electricians for that and you are also supposed to fill-in an NC6 form and send it to ESB to let them know you are connecting Solar PV to their network and that requires an electrician signature too.

    Nothing wrong with you doing the non-electrical work yourself though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,181 ✭✭✭championc


    adrian92 wrote: »
    Does anyone know if it is ok to install a PV system with no SEAI or registered installers involved.

    Can I install myself or would that be against some rule ?

    You absolutely can. Several of us on here have done so.

    However, you need to file an NC6 Form with ESB Networks. It doesn't need to be signed off by anyone but a sparks must be nominated on it. The approval letter goes to the sparks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭JJ O Malley


    blue note wrote: »
    I'm looking at these at the moment. If anyone wants to PM me the name of an installer that they'd be happy to recommend I'd appreciate it. I'm based in Portmarnock.

    I'm a complete novice looking at this and have just called one place so far. Roughly speaking after the grant he was talking about roughly €4,500 for an 8 panel system with a diverter (no battery). To add a battery and another 4 panels I think it was going to between 6 and 8 thousand after the grant.

    I suppose I'll phone a few and get a proper idea of how they compare.

    Crazy price. I just got a 6kw system installed with a 2.4kw battery and an eddi hot water diverter for 5530€ with a hub for monitoring. Delighted with the system. Its working really well and we generally have enough hot water for our needs although I'm planning to buy a bigger cylinder as the current one is not optimal.

    Saving money on electricity and not used oil since installed. Its a no brainer for me. Also more comfort as with all the surplus we sometimes use the tumble dryer rather than just give away the surplus. We are now getting just 3kw per day on average from the grid. Amazing I think!

    PM me if you or anyone wants details of the installer. Oh, it took 2 full days to install plus a couple of shorter visits.

    Cheers
    John


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,735 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    Breakdown of my recent installation.


    15* 380w panels (5.7 kW system)
    5 KW Solis Hybrid inverter.
    AC/DC Cables/Firemans switch etc
    1 Pylon 2.4 kw battery & bracket.
    Smappee Installation
    Inverter Dongle


    Net Cost after grant €4200. (Grant = €3000)

    Up and running almost 3 weeks, Very happy so far.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭borus22222


    I'm trying to find out who was a installer provided that last quote given to V10.. anyone managed to get the details of that installer?


  • Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭Scoopsire


    6 wrote: »
    Breakdown of my recent installation.


    15* 380w panels (5.7 kW system)
    5 KW Solis Hybrid inverter.
    AC/DC Cables/Firemans switch etc
    1 Pylon 2.4 kw battery & bracket.
    Smappee Installation
    Inverter Dongle


    Net Cost after grant €4200. (Grant = €3000)

    Up and running almost 3 weeks, Very happy so far.

    Would you mind sharing the installer via PM please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,735 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    borus22222 wrote: »
    I'm trying to find out who was a installer provided that last quote given to V10.. anyone managed to get the details of that installer?
    Scoopsire wrote: »
    Would you mind sharing the installer via PM please?

    Done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    6 wrote: »
    Done

    Me too please. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭magicEye


    6 wrote: »
    Breakdown of my recent installation.


    15* 380w panels (5.7 kW system)
    5 KW Solis Hybrid inverter.
    AC/DC Cables/Firemans switch etc
    1 Pylon 2.4 kw battery & bracket.
    Smappee Installation
    Inverter Dongle


    Net Cost after grant €4200. (Grant = €3000)

    Up and running almost 3 weeks, Very happy so far.

    can i please get the details of the installer too, by PM? thanking you :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 760 ✭✭✭PGL


    Hi folks

    Just curious if you all have "haggled" with the solar companies on their prices and if you managed to get reductions as a result?

    Thanks!


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    PGL wrote: »
    Hi folks

    Just curious if you all have "haggled" with the solar companies on their prices and if you managed to get reductions as a result?

    Thanks!


    Extra panels, optimisers, increased inverter, installing immersion, cheaper battery as opposed to a decrease in price


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭deravarra


    6 wrote: »
    Done

    Me too :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Extra panels, optimisers, increased inverter, installing immersion, cheaper battery as opposed to a decrease in price

    I didn't so much haggle on price, more just told him that I wanted the same as another boardsie had already got. That boardsie had done the haggling for me so I basically just asked for a price match.

    I did then add a second battery though and he offered it at a reduced rate as I was a returning customer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭Deagol


    PGL wrote: »
    Hi folks

    Just curious if you all have "haggled" with the solar companies on their prices and if you managed to get reductions as a result?

    Thanks!

    Lower price, optimisers, hub added


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 696 ✭✭✭Alfagtamini


    Hi All

    How does this quote look for both price and equipment?

    It's the best price I've gotten so far.

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users Posts: 232 ✭✭social butterfly 2020


    Thoughts on this pls:

    Qcells 335w split-cell all blk mono PERC Qcells x 20

    Solis Hybrid Inverter x1
    c/w Home Energy monitoring App

    PureDrive II - 5kW Battery x1

    Renusol x1

    Zappi V2 Unteth x1

    System cost after grant (subject to approval) €9,950


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,280 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    Thoughts on this pls:

    Qcells 335w split-cell all blk mono PERC Qcells x 20

    Solis Hybrid Inverter x1
    c/w Home Energy monitoring App

    PureDrive II - 5kW Battery x1

    Renusol x1

    Zappi V2 Unteth x1

    System cost after grant (subject to approval) €9,950

    Can you get the ev charge point grant too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭MAULBROOK


    Hi All

    How does this quote look for both price and equipment?

    It's the best price I've gotten so far.

    Thanks

    I think that can be improved but its a clear parts list.

    PM sent


  • Registered Users Posts: 232 ✭✭social butterfly 2020


    graememk wrote: »
    Can you get the ev charge point grant too?

    the price shown includes the ev grant also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭MAULBROOK


    Thoughts on this pls:

    Qcells 335w split-cell all blk mono PERC Qcells x 20

    Solis Hybrid Inverter x1
    c/w Home Energy monitoring App

    PureDrive II - 5kW Battery x1

    Renusol x1

    Zappi V2 Unteth x1

    System cost after grant (subject to approval) €9,950

    I think thats very good.


  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Geeyfds53573


    Hi All

    How does this quote look for both price and equipment?

    It's the best price I've gotten so far.

    Thanks


    That’s not bad it’s nice detail for a change.

    I don’t see the myenergie hub on that image?
    Also spelling of myenergie products incorrect I’d say you will have config issues but that’s not too much of a problem (-:

    just as a comparison mine below which was an awkward install due to access, space issues, dormers, velux windows, chimney and trees and took roofers best part of two days just for the panel install.

    Exact same gear as your enclosed image included but base config was

    16 370W Trina panels total 5920 kW
    Solis 5.0 kW Hybrid inverter
    Data Logger for Solis Cloud
    2.4 Pylontec battery and cabinet
    MyEnergie Zappi/Eddi/Hub/Harvi/App
    16 Tigo Optimisers TS4-A-O
    Tigo CCA and TAP Device with panel level monitoring
    All safety switches
    All AC and DC cabling and isolators
    All meter and protection devices

    Installer also replaced several switches in the hot press and replaced several RCBOs in the consumer unit and included a WiFi extender.
    All installed and configured with labelling and paperwork completion.

    6900k ex grants.

    Up and running a few months now so happy to recommend installer just pm me for details.


  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Geeyfds53573


    Quote: social butterfly 2020
    Thoughts on this pls:

    Qcells 335w split-cell all blk mono PERC Qcells x 20

    Solis Hybrid Inverter x1
    c/w Home Energy monitoring App

    PureDrive II - 5kW Battery x1

    Renusol x1

    Zappi V2 Unteth x1

    System cost after grant (subject to approval) €9,950

    MAULBROOK wrote: »
    I think thats very good.

    That’s decent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭gomamochi1


    Thoughts on this pls:

    Qcells 335w split-cell all blk mono PERC Qcells x 20

    Solis Hybrid Inverter x1
    c/w Home Energy monitoring App

    PureDrive II - 5kW Battery x1

    Renusol x1

    Zappi V2 Unteth x1

    System cost after grant (subject to approval) €9,950

    I got similiar quote with 4 less panels for 7k cost to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,735 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    gomamochi1 wrote: »
    I got similiar quote with 4 less panels for 7k cost to me.

    Almost 3k difference for 4 panels! Insane.

    The original quote was called out twice as being a good quote :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭MAULBROOK


    gomamochi1 wrote: »
    I got similiar quote with 4 less panels for 7k cost to me.

    Have to ask, how similar.
    Battery is usually the main price increaser.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭gomamochi1


    MAULBROOK wrote: »
    Have to ask, how similar.
    Battery is usually the main price increaser.

    -Solis Hybrid inverter 5kw to future proof extra panels later date and wifi dongle for inverter app
    -4.8KW pylontech battery
    -14 panels JA solar 330w on a west facing slate roof
    -Eddi water heater for immersion
    -Zappi 2 car charger untethered and myenergie hub
    Replaced rcbs etc


    7000e after grant - Net cost


  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Geeyfds53573


    Quote: social butterfly 2020
    Thoughts on this pls:

    Qcells 335w split-cell all blk mono PERC Qcells x 20

    Solis Hybrid Inverter x1
    c/w Home Energy monitoring App

    PureDrive II - 5kW Battery x1

    Renusol x1

    Zappi V2 Unteth x1

    System cost after grant (subject to approval) €9,950


    That’s decent.

    Sorry I may have been a bit too quick on this one - it’s a decent install but a bit to come off it yet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭Baoithin66


    Hi could you pm details of your supplier? thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭Baoithin66


    6 wrote: »
    Breakdown of my recent installation.


    15* 380w panels (5.7 kW system)
    5 KW Solis Hybrid inverter.
    AC/DC Cables/Firemans switch etc
    1 Pylon 2.4 kw battery & bracket.
    Smappee Installation
    Inverter Dongle


    Net Cost after grant €4200. (Grant = €3000)

    Up and running almost 3 weeks, Very happy so far.
    That’s not bad it’s nice detail for a change.

    I don’t see the myenergie hub on that image?
    Also spelling of myenergie products incorrect I’d say you will have config issues but that’s not too much of a problem (-:

    just as a comparison mine below which was an awkward install due to access, space issues, dormers, velux windows, chimney and trees and took roofers best part of two days just for the panel install.

    Exact same gear as your enclosed image included but base config was

    16 370W Trina panels total 5920 kW
    Solis 5.0 kW Hybrid inverter
    Data Logger for Solis Cloud
    2.4 Pylontec battery and cabinet
    MyEnergie Zappi/Eddi/Hub/Harvi/App
    16 Tigo Optimisers TS4-A-O
    Tigo CCA and TAP Device with panel level monitoring
    All safety switches
    All AC and DC cabling and isolators
    All meter and protection devices

    Installer also replaced several switches in the hot press and replaced several RCBOs in the consumer unit and included a WiFi extender.
    All installed and configured with labelling and paperwork completion.

    6900k ex grants.

    Up and running a few months now so happy to recommend installer just pm me for details.

    Hi could you pm supplier details please and thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭Baoithin66


    6 wrote: »
    Breakdown of my recent installation.


    15* 380w panels (5.7 kW system)
    5 KW Solis Hybrid inverter.
    AC/DC Cables/Firemans switch etc
    1 Pylon 2.4 kw battery & bracket.
    Smappee Installation
    Inverter Dongle


    Net Cost after grant €4200. (Grant = €3000)

    Up and running almost 3 weeks, Very happy so far.


    Hi could you pm supplier details please and thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭Baoithin66


    v10 wrote: »
    Update: Since my original post, I've now had 4 more quotes, the following is the best of them ...

    10 x 340w Panels
    4kw Hybrid Inverter
    4kw Battery
    Wifi Dongle for Monitoring etc
    No hot water diverter as I already have hot water covered

    €7000 less grant of €2820 = €4180. Happy with that I think ..

    Ho could you pm details of your installer? Are you happy with the system?? thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭deravarra


    So I was chatting and emailing the installer that shall not be named, and I am very unsure as to what I should do.

    A 7 panel (320kwp per panel) system installed, for about 20 a month for 10 years. 35 if I add an Eddi. Each additional panel is 6 per month.
    Was told that the inverter was from Goodwe, but no mention of its rating nor whether it's a hybrid inverter (for adding battery at a later stage)

    I could hold off until a later stage and have the finances in place for exactly what I think I want (10+ panels with Solis Hybrid Inverter, Eddie, Pylontech battery(ies) and possibly wiring setup for an EV charger), or I could avail of the 1800 euro grant that may be going at some stage soon and not be sure whether or not this is the system I should be getting.

    Anyone else get that feeling after consulting with the installer that shall not be named?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭Deagol


    deravarra wrote: »
    So I was chatting and emailing the installer that shall not be named, and I am very unsure as to what I should do.

    A 7 panel (320kwp per panel) system installed, for about 20 a month for 10 years. 35 if I add an Eddi. Each additional panel is 6 per month.
    Was told that the inverter was from Goodwe, but no mention of its rating nor whether it's a hybrid inverter (for adding battery at a later stage)

    I could hold off until a later stage and have the finances in place for exactly what I think I want (10+ panels with Solis Hybrid Inverter, Eddie, Pylontech battery(ies) and possibly wiring setup for an EV charger), or I could avail of the 1800 euro grant that may be going at some stage soon and not be sure whether or not this is the system I should be getting.

    Anyone else get that feeling after consulting with the installer that shall not be named?

    I've already made it very clear what I think of the idea of solar as a service so I'll not rake it up again. But..

    20x12x10=€2400. For that price I'd be extremely doubtful you'll get a hybrid inverter. €6 a month per panel extra is simply extortionate - I'd say you'll get the hard sell on that though - just a guess.

    Nothing to say the grant is going.

    35 extra for an Eddi is simply laughable - again, I'm expecting you'll get hard sell on that.

    But, you could get the 7 panels installed, pay off of the 2400 in one lump and then change the inverter out (+€1000) and add panels IF you can DIY them.

    If you can't and you have to pay someone to fit them the economics of it start to look a lot shakier. It's not just the money for me, you'll run into warranty issues if you fit the original 7, then change out the inverter, then add more. i'd say original installer will not want to hear about any issues.

    If nothing else, I'm sure the original installer isn't a charity nor a fool - I'd say he's covering himself somehow around people using him as a cheap installation service.

    Ultimately though, the decision is yours!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,868 ✭✭✭Alkers


    deravarra wrote: »
    So I was chatting and emailing the installer that shall not be named, and I am very unsure as to what I should do.

    A 7 panel (320kwp per panel) system installed, for about 20 a month for 10 years. 35 if I add an Eddi. Each additional panel is 6 per month.
    Was told that the inverter was from Goodwe, but no mention of its rating nor whether it's a hybrid inverter (for adding battery at a later stage)

    I could hold off until a later stage and have the finances in place for exactly what I think I want (10+ panels with Solis Hybrid Inverter, Eddie, Pylontech battery(ies) and possibly wiring setup for an EV charger), or I could avail of the 1800 euro grant that may be going at some stage soon and not be sure whether or not this is the system I should be getting.

    Anyone else get that feeling after consulting with the installer that shall not be named?

    Of course it's not a hybrid inverter, that would be ridiculous for them to sell to people who aren't going with a battery system.

    Their cheapest system is very competitively priced but the bigger systems with battery, Eddi etc are much less so.

    There has been people on this thread who went with the base deal but then bought additional panels outright and had them install them. That could be an option if you want more panels but I'd doubt they would do that for a hybrid inverter also.

    Did you not receive a quote in writing, all our model numbers etc were in that


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭deravarra


    Deagol wrote: »
    I've already made it very clear what I think of the idea of solar as a service so I'll not rake it up again. But..

    20x12x10=€2400. For that price I'd be extremely doubtful you'll get a hybrid inverter. €6 a month per panel extra is simply extortionate - I'd say you'll get the hard sell on that though - just a guess.

    Nothing to say the grant is going.

    35 extra for an Eddi is simply laughable - again, I'm expecting you'll get hard sell on that.

    But, you could get the 7 panels installed, pay off of the 2400 in one lump and then change the inverter out (+€1000) and add panels IF you can DIY them.

    If you can't and you have to pay someone to fit them the economics of it start to look a lot shakier. It's not just the money for me, you'll run into warranty issues if you fit the original 7, then change out the inverter, then add more. i'd say original installer will not want to hear about any issues.

    If nothing else, I'm sure the original installer isn't a charity nor a fool - I'd say he's covering himself somehow around people using him as a cheap installation service.

    Ultimately though, the decision is yours!

    I don't think I'd want to just stick with 2.2kwp. I know it's a very easy way to get started, but I am not in any way interested in going down the DIY route in the future wrt this. I think I'll just wait until I am in a position to get the system I want.

    Thanks for more or less confirming what I was thinking


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