Black people Racism in Workplace in Ireland

OP: We need to have a conversation around racism in Ireland

OP then runs off and proceeds to not have said discussion.

Mad_maxx wrote: »

RTE can't get enough of that sort of thing and it's not like Africans are the only group they chase , they've been doing the victim thing with travellers for years

They're constantly bending over backwards trying to make us all feel guilty for 1.4% of the population and for travellers it's 0.7% . Is it any wonder why no one watches RTE anymore, they're not in touch with reality . I pay a tv license and I don't even watch the chanel .

Amazingly other races are able to settle in with no issues finding work and co existing with the native Irish, how is it always Africans that seem to be having problems in whatever country they migrate to.

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

The likes of Ebun Joseph strike me as trying to stoke tension and create a bigger problem where perhaps there isn't so much of an issue.

She was on VM1 last night, Colm Brophy was going out of his way telling her how great everyone from Africa was and they were such an asset to Ireland.

Telling this to someone who had a job created just for her at UCD.

Bambi wrote: »

How about we address racism by sparing any more black people the ignominy of living our racist country?

Because that would be racist :rolleyes:

fvp4 wrote: »

We definitely should try and make the civil service more representative. By firing some existing dead wood to begin with.

What are you going on about? Keep on thread topic.

Jealous much? You must be a private sector poster.

Annasopra wrote: »

Because that would be racist :rolleyes:

Why would a person choose to live in a racist country ? :rolleyes:

My 2 Cents, I personally think this non-stop talk of racism is actually counter-productive in the long term. It instills a Victimhood mentality in those being abused, it pisses of people who genuinely support anti-racism, but are tired of being lectured to and perhaps, most importantly, like any bully, those who carry it out are getting the confirmation that what they are doing is having the desired effect on those they are bullying and will continue to do so. There is non-stop talk of racism, which would suggest it to be worse than ever so surely that would mean it is either counter-productive or people are focusing on it too much.

In Ireland I think racism is primarily of the casual kind and is carried out primarily by little scrotes. I remember reading about the actress Aoife Hinds being abused whilst filming a show in Dublin and I just thought, yeah a bunch of little scrotes looking for attention. RTE have a whole section on their website devoted to racism and I cannot recall them ever devoting so much attention to more general bullying which I imagine affects far more people in Ireland whether at school or work. Also a lot of racism seems to be online, which again is just a cesspool and if that is the barometer for how racist a country is, then it is an awful barometer.

I have listened to some of the Black and Irish podcasts, and a lot of the issues seem to be around schools, but again I put that down to kids being horrible little monsters who will pick up on any differences, and naturally enough physical appearance is the most obvious one. I can still recall getting insults at primary school about my appearance. Read some of Paul Therouxs books on travelling in Africa and he endures plenty of taunts from kids because he is white and old.

I went to college in the UK back in the 90s in a city that was almost 50% non-white, the group of lads I became friends with were from various backgrounds. We were on the same course at college, we shared houses and we socialised together and I am still friends with some of those lads over 20 years later. Sometimes, I would be the only white person in the group. I heard them tell stories of genuine racism toward them, but I also saw them play the race card first hand as well and it is something they knew they had. Even now in a city that is incredibly mixed and a Country that has had minorities for way longer than Ireland, they still on rare occasions encounter racism.

During my time in the UK, I had stupid things said to for being Irish and I can give lots of examples, including from my friends from the minority groups. I could still differentiate between genuine hatred and just ignorance, and I never considered the UK anti-Irish even though there were idiots who said stupid stuff. If someone said something to me that was offensive, I just saw them as an idiot and got on with things without trying to tar a whole Country with the same brush or lecture people on how I should be treated.

Again, like many unrealistic ideals of modern society, racism will never be full stamped out for as long as there is bullies and little scrotes, racism will be a weapon in their armory. It is a sad fact of like and no end of talking about it will end it.

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Amazingly other races are able to settle in with no issues finding work and co existing with the native Irish, how is it always Africans that seem to be having problems in whatever country they migrate to.

Its because they look the most different. Out of all the races, except maybe the australoid aboriginal (who are treated as bad if not worse than blacks), africans have the biggest deviation in terms of physical appearance -from their skin, noses, lips, hair, africans are simply different. Eurasians often overlap in appearance. Russia is a huge admixture but more often than not you’d just call them white - or sometimes asian with white features. Go as far east as you can and you will always find common features. Latinos who are raised in a western country, away from the harsh sun and skin cracking hardship of south america just become ‘white’. The european admixture exists in most latin countries. It never disappeared.

When it comes to Africans, they are easy to be the target of tribalist mentality because they are simply the most different in terms of appearance. Humans are tribal by nature and if you imagine how visceral the reaction is when someone is wearing a blue jersey vs your red imagine how bad it gets when the common lout sees someone who’se every single feature is different.

I myself have caught on to why this particular person at work irates me subconsciously. It was his hair. He had kinky, pubic-like hair which just made me irrationally mad every time I saw him, and no doubt it came from no place of logic. I just hated his hair and by that extension I acted standoffish to him.

Its really just that simple. They just look different.

Out of curiosity, is there even one black person commenting on this thread?

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Someone I know had to do sensitivity training. Company based in Dublin but the trainer was a black guy from and in London. He got her name wrong. Later during the part about how it's racist to get someone's name wrong he got her name wrong again but differently.

The trouble is that perception has replaced facts. Surveys on a subjective answer to a subjective situation becomes fact.

On my J1 in Sun Francisco a group of us went together to get our social security numbers so we could get jobs sorted. We had tears in our eyes laughing at the struggle the staff had with some of our names when they called us for our appointment. Even if they nailed the first name they would butcher the surname. It was hilarious.

In college I lived with a Chinese girl. We genuinely couldn’t get her name spot on. She told us that the sounds used in her name are not used in English so we were probably never going to get it right and to use a shortened version of the name. Still friends over a decade later.

Many non native English speakers will struggle with certain names popular in Ireland and many of us will struggle with names we aren’t familiar with. It’s just the way it is.