Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI Read OP For Mod Warnings

stephenjmcd · 25-05-2021 01:49PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

It's the way Martin and the government are saying things

Yes it's a variant of concern that we have very little cases of and also the vaccines seem to work on

Sure keep an eye on it but our vaccine program should significantly out pace any increase in cases

It's the mood music changing in the lead up to announcements particularly when it comes to any easing in relation to hospitality

I don't know if it's tempering expectations or the government always going for the doom and gloom scenarios

Indian variant has cases in Northern Ireland yet they opened hospitality up yesterday

Yes maybe they won't slow down reopening here but I'll be surprised if indoor dining won't be mid July at the earliest

Will see on Friday

I dont see any mood music changing. There's not even a suggestion of anything being delayed when it comes to hospitality. Mid July was always the time that was hinted at, it was publicans that asked for 1st July.

There's usually a 4 week gap so expect indoor to be either the week of 5th July or week of the 12th.

charlie14 · 25-05-2021 01:54PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

It's the way Martin and the government are saying things

Yes it's a variant of concern that we have very little cases of and also the vaccines seem to work on

Sure keep an eye on it but our vaccine program should significantly out pace any increase in cases

It's the mood music changing in the lead up to announcements particularly when it comes to any easing in relation to hospitality

I don't know if it's tempering expectations or the government always going for the doom and gloom scenarios

Indian variant has cases in Northern Ireland yet they opened hospitality up yesterday

Yes maybe they won't slow down reopening here but I'll be surprised if indoor dining won't be mid July at the earliest

Will see on Friday

Yet it seems one of the countries we are being encouraged to chance our arm and follow is a lot more concerned over the Indian variant than we are.

25-05-2021 02:00PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

It's the way Martin and the government are saying things

Its the way the thread is reading doom into every single headline more than anything else really

Boggles · 25-05-2021 02:14PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Yes maybe they won't slow down reopening here but I'll be surprised if indoor dining won't be mid July at the earliest

It was always going to be after the 5th anyway.

Advice was no more easing for 4 weeks after the 7th of June, that brings us to the 5th of July.

If everything is on track I see no reason for it not open then, I have said the 4th will be apt, all though that's a Sunday so could be a non runner.

It wouldn't surprise me if they opened food establishments first and then proper pubs later.

TomTomTim · 25-05-2021 02:22PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Its the way the thread is reading doom into every single headline more than anything else really

Can you blame people? We've had over a year of almost nothing but doom, leading people to naturally expect even more of it.

political analyst · 25-05-2021 02:34PM

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0525/1223696-guidelines-hospitality-sector/

Outdoor hospitality is expected to resume on 7 June, but Cabinet must decide on Friday when the sector can serve customers indoors again.

Taoiseach Micheál Martin indicated yesterday that this may not happen in the first week of July and he said it remains the case that outdoors is best.

But over half of the adults will have been fully vaccinated and most will have received the first dose of any of the two-dose vaccines by the end of June. So why might indoor dining still not be allowed even in the first week of July?

PTH2009 · 25-05-2021 02:38PM

political analyst wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0525/1223696-guidelines-hospitality-sector/

But over half of the adults will have been fully vaccinated and most will have received the first dose of any of the two-dose vaccines by the end of June. So why might indoor dining still not be allowed even in the first week of July?

Variants of concern and of course us watching how the UK are going

political analyst · 25-05-2021 02:39PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Variants of concern and of course us watching how the UK are going

But there are very few cases of the Indian variant here.

paddyisreal · 25-05-2021 02:48PM

Boggles wrote: »

Yeah the likes of Germany are not bothered at all.

Yeah but Germany are not waiting for months to see how the variant plays out.
They are getting the **** on with life something we should be doing.

https://www.thelocal.de/20210521/in-pictures-how-germany-is-reopening-more-than-six-months-after-covid-shutdown/

Allinall · 25-05-2021 02:51PM

political analyst wrote: »

But there are very few cases of the Indian variant here.

And that's the way they want to keep it.

KrustyUCC · 25-05-2021 03:06PM

Boggles wrote: »

It was always going to be after the 5th anyway.

Advice was no more easing for 4 weeks after the 7th of June, that brings us to the 5th of July.

If everything is on track I see no reason for it not open then, I have said the 4th will be apt, all though that's a Sunday so could be a non runner.

It wouldn't surprise me if they opened food establishments first and then proper pubs later.

You might be right but defeats the statements about food and non food pubs being treated the same this time around

Boggles · 25-05-2021 03:08PM

paddyisreal wrote: »

Yeah but Germany are not waiting for months to see how the variant plays out.
They are getting the **** on with life something we should be doing.

https://www.thelocal.de/20210521/in-pictures-how-germany-is-reopening-more-than-six-months-after-covid-shutdown/

Yeah it's almost like they don't share an island with the UK and can take drastic mitigation action like completely cutting them off.

Boggles · 25-05-2021 03:11PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

You might be right but defeats the statements about food and non food pubs being treated the same this time around

We weren't supposed to have time limits either.

KrustyUCC · 25-05-2021 03:17PM

Boggles wrote: »

We weren't supposed to have time limits either.

True

Time limits are being brought in at the behest of pubs and restaurants though

I don't think there would be the same support for going back to gastro v wet pub distinction

Boggles · 25-05-2021 03:19PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

True

Time limits are being brought in at the behest of pubs and restaurants though

I don't think there would be the same support for going back to gastro v wet pub distinction

Apart from gastro pubs and restaurants.

:pac:

KrustyUCC · 25-05-2021 03:30PM

Hmmm

All it needs is the €9 meal to return first lol

rob316 · 25-05-2021 03:34PM

Ugh time limits, I hope every establishment disregards them this time, no one cares at this stage. The cynic in me though says Failte Ireland are bringing it back to keep turnover of customers high for economic reasons. Leo and Mick already said there would be no limit, or meal bollox.

charlie14 · 25-05-2021 03:52PM

political analyst wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0525/1223696-guidelines-hospitality-sector/

But over half of the adults will have been fully vaccinated and most will have received the first dose of any of the two-dose vaccines by the end of June. So why might indoor dining still not be allowed even in the first week of July?

I don`t know what figures you are working off that over half of adults will be fully vacinated by end of June but I think that is highly unlikely.

The UK presently only has 41.9% of adults fully vaccinated, and while it is difficult to know what our levels currently are due to the hacker attack, two weeks ago on the 11th. we had 514,808 adults fully vaccinated which is around 12%.

thebronze14 · 25-05-2021 04:02PM

Penfailed wrote: »

As a homeowner whose house has been built with defective blocks, I thank you for the support. We may have to take our protest to Dublin soon...

I will 100% be there if so

suicide_circus · 25-05-2021 04:03PM

political analyst wrote: »

But there are very few cases of the Indian variant here.

Allinall wrote: »

And that's the way they want to keep it.

We have an open border with the UK

Allinall · 25-05-2021 04:06PM

rob316 wrote: »

Ugh time limits, I hope every establishment disregards them this time, no one cares at this stage. The cynic in me though says Failte Ireland are bringing it back to keep turnover of customers high for economic reasons. Leo and Mick already said there would be no limit, or meal bollox.

I know of one pub that will be doing this.

Groups tend to spend most money in the first couple of hours in a pub.

Much higher sales of food that way, which carries the highest profit margin.

suicide_circus · 25-05-2021 04:15PM

Desserts have the biggest mark up generally

Boggles · 25-05-2021 04:22PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Desserts have the biggest mark up generally

12 young lads slamming copious rounds of shots at the end of the night has the biggest mark up.

rob316 · 25-05-2021 04:55PM

Allinall wrote: »

I know of one pub that will be doing this.

Groups tend to spend most money in the first couple of hours in a pub.

Much higher sales of food that way, which carries the highest profit margin.

Ya think? Usually its after a couple of hours that you start ordering from the top shelf.

25-05-2021 04:57PM

rob316 wrote: »

Ya think? Usually its after a couple of hours that you people with more money than sense start ordering from the top shelf.

FYP

rob316 · 25-05-2021 04:58PM

Deleted User wrote: »

FYP

My post was fine, you seem great fun.

brickster69 · 25-05-2021 05:15PM

Indian variant first detected one month ago in the UK so will of been there a few weeks earlier. Cases static and most of the deaths today were backdated. Huge amount of testing going on and it's still flat. The media are making to big a problem out of this.

https://twitter.com/UKCovid19Stats/status/1397211870403178502

Silentcorner · 25-05-2021 05:19PM

The media need to stop all this fear mongering over variants, they are here to stay, there will be one come Winter.

You can see in some posters how the hysteria about variants has gotten the better of them!!

There were a myriad of variants last summer, did no harm.

brickster69 · 25-05-2021 05:31PM

Silentcorner wrote: »

The media need to stop all this fear mongering over variants, they are here to stay, there will be one come Winter.

You can see in some posters how the hysteria about variants has gotten the better of them!!

There were a myriad of variants last summer, did no harm.

It's unreal. 1.5 million tests a day going on and everything open. You walk in a supermarket and you can have a test while the wife is doing the shopping if you want. no way of knowing but i bet over half of them have not had a vaccine despite being offered one.

brickster69 · 25-05-2021 05:45PM

Here is another one.

https://www.complex.com/life/covid-19-mass-gatherings-trial-15-cases-out-of-60-thousand

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