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Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    jellies wrote: »
    US/Mexico travel is at the same level as it was in 2019 (I know this from my work data). Mexico is at level 4 advisory from the CDC - the same as Ireland.
    The Caribbean is also doing well. The main reason is that Americans can't travel anywhere else and it is a "local" trip. So the CDC list seems to be advisory and not detering travel if the host country is open.

    So my read of it is that a significant number of Americans would hop on a plane to Europe tomorrow if it is allowed. Travel to Europe is currently at -90% Vs 2019, so the initial wave might get it to -60% or -70% but this would still be significant and would save some folks jobs over the winter. Will take a number of years to get back to 2019 levels.

    I can't find the link .- but it was a travel article discussing the likleyhood of people traveling from the US to level 4 " Do not Travel" destinations in Europe. They mentioned that as many EU countries (including Ireland) attract an older demographic of US tourists - some will be reluctant to travel especially where medical insurance and other issues may cost more as a result of the US travel embargos

    I'll see if I can dig it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 MrMiyagi12345


    Question to the floor. Heading to the UK for a weekend at the end of next month. It seems like I won't need a test there but will need one coming back. Would it be possile to take a PCR test in Dublin before departure and use that as my test on returning?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭1123heavy


    Question to the floor. Heading to the UK for a weekend at the end of next month. It seems like I won't need a test there but will need one coming back. Would it be possile to take a PCR test in Dublin before departure and use that as my test on returning?

    I'd seriously consider belfast. 2 tests or more and it's rarely worth flying into dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Question to the floor. Heading to the UK for a weekend at the end of next month. It seems like I won't need a test there but will need one coming back. Would it be possile to take a PCR test in Dublin before departure and use that as my test on returning?

    The current requirement is to have a "negative / not detected result from a pre-departure COVID-19 PCR test taken within 72 hours before their arrival in Ireland 

    See.
    https://www.dfa.ie/travel/travel-advice/a-z-list-of-countries/great-britain/


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 62,301 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Micky 32 threadbanned


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭M_Murphy57


    Question to the floor. Heading to the UK for a weekend at the end of next month. It seems like I won't need a test there but will need one coming back. Would it be possile to take a PCR test in Dublin before departure and use that as my test on returning?

    In theory yes as long as you are certain you'll get over and back within 72 hours of the result. If your test expires at best you wont be allowed board at worst hotel prison for 2 weeks.

    Meanwhile you can go via Belfast risk free . No PCR, no chance if being turned around or imprisoned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭Del Griffith


    saabsaab wrote: »
    All post will be irrelevant . Because of ......the vaccines.

    There's no way certain posters will be able to go back to normal and just let this go, you can't live in a state of psychotic paranoia for the best part of 2 years and then just switch it off.

    Btw have you heard people will likely need a booster top up shot every 12 months? ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    If my wife has an appointment for a medical checkup, does that cover me and the children to travel??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,346 ✭✭✭Fann Linn



    They'll use every excuse in the book to keep people hemmed in. Sure didn't they only open the actual Passport office in early May when every other Govt dept has been open all year.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭Valhallapt



    It will delight the 3 or 4 doom mongers on this thread who never want to go back to normal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭Valhallapt



    In that article it says
    The Government will retain the authority to control the conditions for entry, and will monitor the containment of the virus and the rate of vaccination before the scheme is commenced.

    It’s the 2k fine for leaving “Mandatory Island Quarantine” I’m concerned about


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 258 ✭✭Wallander


    Tazz T wrote: »
    It needs to be pointed out for the sake of clarity as it hasn't been made clear that the CDC 'do not travel' list is advisory. There is no fine, no penalties on travel whatsoever. Americans have been flooding into Greece since early May and being welcomed while infections continue to fall, making our travel restrictions a joke. The only thing falling here is numbers employed in tourism/aviation/associated industries.


    This pattern has held since last summer - the European countries with the biggest tourist inflows seem to always have some of the lowest infection rates. Touristy areas in them (Greek islands, Canaries, Balearics, Costa del Sol) seem to fare even better. Malta has opened up to tourists and has less than 10 cases per day on average, but hey, they vaccinated much faster than us despite also being EU, sneaky!



    The infection hotspots generally seem to be industrial areas (Northern France, Northern Italy, Northern England) which does make you wonder if cultural and behavioral factors are more significant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    Wallander wrote: »
    This pattern has held since last summer - the European countries with the biggest tourist inflows seem to always have some of the lowest infection rates. Touristy areas in them (Greek islands, Canaries, Balearics, Costa del Sol) seem to fare even better. Malta has opened up to tourists and has less than 10 cases per day on average, but hey, they vaccinated much faster than us despite also being EU, sneaky!



    The infection hotspots generally seem to be industrial areas (Northern France, Northern Italy, Northern England) which does make you wonder if cultural and behavioral factors are more significant.

    Probably got more to do with testing, I doubt the Greek islands would have capacity to test every visitor last summer, they would have waited until their return home, to get a test


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,346 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Valhallapt wrote: »
    In that article it says
    The Government will retain the authority to control the conditions for entry, and will monitor the containment of the virus and the rate of vaccination before the scheme is commenced.

    It’s the 2k fine for leaving “Mandatory Island Quarantine” I’m concerned about
    Donnelly in Seanad today to extend Covid regs to Nov. So much for Varadkar saying 80% of pop would have a vaccine offer by end of June.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭CruelSummer




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭jellies


    gozunda wrote: »
    I can't find the link .- but it was a travel article discussing the likleyhood of people traveling from the US to level 4 " Do not Travel" destinations in Europe. They mentioned that as many EU countries (including Ireland) attract an older demographic of US tourists - some will be reluctant to travel especially where medical insurance and other issues may cost more as a result of the US travel embargos

    I'll see if I can dig it out.

    Don't doubt this for a minute.
    That's why travel will come back initially in a wave of pent up travel (business, family, very keen tourists) and after that will be slower. At the extreme I'd imagine there will be some people that never get on a plane again due to COVID anxiety.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,553 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Valhallapt wrote: »
    In that article it says
    The Government will retain the authority to control the conditions for entry, and will monitor the containment of the virus and the rate of vaccination before the scheme is commenced.

    It’s the 2k fine for leaving “Mandatory Island Quarantine” I’m concerned about


    Yeah all governments retain the authority to control the conditions of entry.

    You know as well as everyone else that it'll go when this comes in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Donnelly in Seanad today to extend Covid regs to Nov. So much for Varadkar saying 80% of pop would have a vaccine offer by end of June.

    Well as I understand it, that’s the ability to use an SI to for all emergency powers not necessarily the 2k departure tax, fingers crossed the fine is allowed to expire June 2nd, although I’m not confident of that happening


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,553 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Donnelly in Seanad today to extend Covid regs to Nov. So much for Varadkar saying 80% of pop would have a vaccine offer by end of June.

    He wasn't extending covid regulations yesterday, what they did was extend the emergency legislation that underpins the SI.

    Individual SI can lapse of their own accord or be extended, but yesterday just means the government don't have to go through the Dail each time they want to bring in a SI.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Valhallapt wrote: »
    Well as I understand it, that’s the ability to use an SI to for all emergency powers not necessarily the 2k departure tax, fingers crossed the fine is allowed to expire June 2nd, although I’m not confident of that happening

    I would have hoped so but expect it will be end June. I must say I was amused listening to the Soc Dems and SF last week calling for greater supports for the airlines.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,681 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    On the travel cert rollout in Ireland….

    Examiner is reporting it will be rolled out end of July

    Breakingnews.ie is reporting it will be mid July. (And they’re owned by the examiner!)

    The indo is reporting it’s in jeopardy because of hse hack!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭Klonker


    Valhallapt wrote: »
    In that article it says
    The Government will retain the authority to control the conditions for entry, and will monitor the containment of the virus and the rate of vaccination before the scheme is commenced.

    It’s the 2k fine for leaving “Mandatory Island Quarantine” I’m concerned about

    The 2k fine will have to be gone when the Green Cert comes in, I'm still hoping they won't renew it on 2nd June!

    The retain authority line is more to do with the fact Ireland may insist on a PCR test for entry for unvaccinated and possibly even vaccinated arrivals, while in the rest of EU will more than likely be accepting antigen tests, most already accept the antigen tests for entry now. This may cause a lot of issues. A lot of people are getting stuck abroad because they are testing positive on PCR tests for a virus they had months ago but this is a good thing according to NPHET.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,346 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    faceman wrote: »
    On the travel cert rollout in Ireland….

    Examiner is reporting it will be rolled out end of July

    Breakingnews.ie is reporting it will be mid July. (And they’re owned by the examiner!)

    The indo is reporting it’s in jeopardy because of hse hack!

    Coalition of Confusion in action.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭M_Murphy57


    faceman wrote: »
    On the travel cert rollout in Ireland….

    Examiner is reporting it will be rolled out end of July

    Breakingnews.ie is reporting it will be mid July. (And they’re owned by the examiner!)

    The indo is reporting it’s in jeopardy because of hse hack!

    The indo is an absolute rag. Worse than a red top.

    They've a headline today saying (something like) "hospitalizations increase as fear of indian variant grows"

    Implying of course a drastic uptick in hospitalizations in ireland as a direct result of the indian variant.

    In the article itself however it says:
    -Hospitalisatons have increased from 124 to 127 over the course of 2 weeks
    -They note this is not a significant change and
    -State there is no known connection to the indian variant and people in hospital in ireland

    Meanwhile a load of grannies will read that and go back to cowering indoors terrified to leave the house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    So we are looking to potentially come to Ireland in August.
    My wife is fully vaccinated, I expect to be by then too - we are travelling from Spain, I know at the moment the MHQ is gone for Spain, but would we need PCR tests even though we will be vaccinated ?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,344 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    TomSweeney wrote: »
    So we are looking to potentially come to Ireland in August.
    My wife is fully vaccinated, I expect to be by then too - we are travelling from Spain, I know at the moment the MHQ is gone for Spain, but would we need PCR tests even though we will be vaccinated ?


    Honestly no one knows yet, we 'should' hopefully know Friday after the cabinet meet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,684 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    TomSweeney wrote: »
    So we are looking to potentially come to Ireland in August.
    My wife is fully vaccinated, I expect to be by then too - we are travelling from Spain, I know at the moment the MHQ is gone for Spain, but would we need PCR tests even though we will be vaccinated ?

    If Holohan and NPHET don't change their decrees on travel then by August you'll need negative PCR's and 2 week hotel quarantine..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    If Holohan and NPHET don't change their decrees on travel then by August you'll need negative PCR's and 2 week hotel quarantine..




    :o wouldn't surprise me if they added Spain to MHQ list.


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