Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Richard Hillman wrote: »

RTE headline is saying Masks until october-November. Well after everyone has been vaccinated and just before winter flu season, so obviously they'll want to push it on until next March.

No sane individual can defend this.

Today was the first day in a long time that I saw people without masks in a supermarket shopping centre. All young guys, and I thought good on them, I wish I was brave enough to stand up to the insanity. I think once enough people break trail a surprising amount of people will follow and this will end.

PTH2009 wrote: »

NPHET wont take the gamble and MM is to scared to make a decision

Laughing stock of Europe we are

Just listened back to Míchéal Martin interview on Claire Byrne. She’s basically an ISAG puppet now rather than a journalist. All of her questions towards the Taoiseach were from the ISAG playbook.
Should we put mandatory hotel quarantine with the U.K.? Seriously?!
Are we reopening too quickly? Why aren’t we more cautious? Get her off the air & her ISAG links investigated.
Micheal Martin is so weak in his responses, it’s scary.

Do Sinn Fein, the Soc Dems and PBP only like policies that will rise taxes and rodger the economy? Where is the opposition to one of the slowest reopenings in Europe?

And as for Fine Gael being the pro-business party... don't make me laugh.

A pox on all their houses.

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Am I correct saying a lot of Europe is already at outdoor reopening stage and moving towards indoor reopening in the next couple of weeks? France (one of the worst hit EU countries?) has set the date for the 30th of June for indoor activities to resume. Portugal, Spain, Denmark have reopened indoor, Slovakia allowing indoor reopening depending on localised county restrictions now, these are just the ones I’ve read about.

By the looks of things our indoor reopening is planned for 5th/12th July or possibly later? Are they going to give us justification for this at all? It’s ludicrous at this stage.

We hit 2 million doses on 13th of May, we’ll be at close to 3 million by 1st of June and over 4 million by Monday the 28th of June. Realistically the country should be reopening on this day at the latest, or this should be the date to work towards and if any disasters happen between now and then the date can be pushed out, the Indian variant isn’t going to have us cracking open each other’s skulls, it’s criminal having the country closed for longer than it needs to be now. Half of the country will be travelling to the north or abroad in June.

Crazy how slow we are moving, but a lot of the public will make up their own minds about it and are doing so already.
Was at a 40th on Friday night, well attended, not a mention of the Covid.
Was in a pub yesterday afternoon to watch the GAA. Great to get some proper pints. Had to use three different pubs for takeaway pints on the Friday night until we got a decent one. They are gone stink lately for whatever reason.

If there are anti-lockdown protests in July for once they will be well deserved.

Boggles wrote: »

I don't remember a million kids being in school last May or the vast majority of the economy open with no travel restrictions?

I might fire up Google and check.

It was bad enough with things that were never said but now we`re on to things that never happened.:)

Stevek101 wrote: »

:mad::mad:

Crowds back at the Darts in the UK tonight and not as rowdy as you would think but still all having fun

bear1 wrote: »

Did I say after one dose?

Your post was in relation to indoor dining.

Seeing as the efficacy percentages you were highlighting are for fully vaccinated, then that would strongly suggest you are only in favour of those fully vaccinated availing of indoor dining would it not ?

landofthetree wrote: »

Around 92% of people in hospital with covid are over 40.

Here are some stats for Switzerland. I'm sure our stats would be similar.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1110045/coronavirus-covid-19-hospitalizations-number-age-group-switzerland/

Where exactly are you getting a figure of 92% of people in hospital with covid are over 40?

That doesn't match with any official tally here atm at all.

And what's with the Swiss stats?

charlie14 wrote: »

Your post was in relation to indoor dining.

Seeing as the efficacy percentages you were highlighting are for fully vaccinated, then that would strongly suggest you are only in favour of those fully vaccinated availing of indoor dining would it not ?

No? I'm in favour of everyone being able to dine inside.
Quite simple really.

bear1 wrote: »

No? I'm in favour of everyone being able to dine inside.
Quite simple really.

Not really.

I don`t see anything in that to explain the logic you couldn`t see when you were highlighting the effectiveness of some vaccines against a new variant of around 80%, and AstraZeneca somewhere around 60% in relation to indoor dining.

Penfailed wrote: »

Seems to be a correlation between vaccines and restrictions. Makes sense.

Ireland’s figure for vaccines is 10 days behind on that graphic compared to every other country no? that’s the total on the 11th of May, the last day an official total was released here.

We’re on par with almost all Euro countries in terms of vaccines doses per 100 population, it just hasn’t been updated yet due to the hack.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1196071/covid-19-vaccination-rate-in-europe-by-country/


We are probably ahead of most countries actually going on the above, we hit 2 million on 13th of May. We’ve been doing over 35 thousand vaccines a day since then. That leaves us on ~2,500,000 tonight. With a population of 4.9 million that’s 51 doses per 100 population and leaves us high up that list just behind Germany.

A lot of those countries behind us are opening up/opened now too which makes our dithering even more bizarre. It makes no sense that we will continue to have heavy restrictions for another 6/7 summer weeks. We need an explanation for this if this is the decision on Friday.

We are better off with vaccines than a lot of the Euro countries but are weeks and weeks behind in terms of restrictions. Are their leaders being reckless? Is Ireland a special case and does the virus act differently here? Does it have disdain for the Irish and our weather? Answers are needed.

Stevek101 wrote: »

Figure seems behind as it's entire population not adult. Started to use adult population here to make the numbers look better when we started to slip behind everyone else.

Not according to the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control.
Their vaccine uptake tracker shows first and second doses for those 18+ and the EU/EEA average for both is 40.1% and 16.8%.
We were over 40% first dose a few days ago, and while it is difficult to know due to the hacker attack I cannot see us being below the average in either first or second doses.