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Cost-Effective, High-Functionality, User-Friendly Replacement for Pay TV

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  • #1302
    cwboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭cwboy


    I restarted my box and now I'm not getting any terrestrial channels. Tried two different aerials and still nothing. Tried to scan but it is not picking up anything. Any ideas?


  • #1303
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,446 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Is your saorview setup to your location in setup dvb/t/t2 tuner ?


  • #1304
    cwboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭cwboy


    greasepalm wrote: »
    Is your saorview setup to your location in setup dvb/t/t2 tuner ?

    Yes it is. Was working fine before the reboot

    There seems to be no signal when I check in signal finder. Have tried two different aerials


  • #1305
    swoofer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,557 ✭✭✭swoofer


    did you do a hard re-boot ie use switch at back. check cables carefully as well and aerial, is it still there!!


  • #1306
    cwboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭cwboy


    swoofer wrote: »
    did you do a hard re-boot ie use switch at back. check cables carefully as well and aerial, is it still there!!

    Yes have done a hard reboot a few times. Cables checked, removed and re connected a few times. Two different aerials.


  • #1307
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,446 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Have you rechecked your location in saorview settings?


  • #1308
    cwboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭cwboy


    greasepalm wrote: »
    Have you rechecked your location in saorview settings?
    In autobouquetmaker? Yes. Location is ok


  • #1309
    cwboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭cwboy


    I also can't do an automatic scan. Doesn't seem to do anything. Struck at 0%


  • #1310
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,446 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Is there in abm an update for new listings and what version is abm on as every now and again abm needs an update.

    https://www.saorview.ie/en/get/saorview-combi


  • #1311
    cwboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭cwboy


    greasepalm wrote: »
    Is there in abm an update for new listings and what version is abm on as every now and again abm needs an update.

    https://www.saorview.ie/en/get/saorview-combi

    Says version 3.1 (c) 2012 in the about.


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  • #1312
    NewClareman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    cwboy wrote: »
    I restarted my box and now I'm not getting any terrestrial channels. Tried two different aerials and still nothing. Tried to scan but it is not picking up anything. Any ideas?

    I would connect the aerials directly to the TV, first. This will rule out any issue with those.

    Next I would update the providers in ABM, just in case it's a configuration issue.

    Then I would reinstall OpenATV, using my build, or whatever version you prefer.


  • #1313
    cwboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭cwboy


    NewClareman wrote: »
    I would connect the aerials directly to the TV, first. This will rule out any issue with those.

    Next I would update the providers in ABM, just in case it's a configuration issue.

    Then I would reinstall OpenATV, using my build, or whatever version you prefer.

    Aerial working fine on the TV. Says providers don't need updating. Will try the reinstall


  • #1314
    NewClareman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    cwboy wrote: »
    Aerial working fine on the TV. Says providers don't need updating. Will try the reinstall

    If the reinstall doesn't work, it is likely a hardware failure. It isn't the power supply unit, as the satellite services are working. Detailed troubleshooting requires specialised test equipment and expertise.

    You could use a USB terrestrial tuner, as a replacement. If you search other posts you'll get some info on these.


  • #1315
    cwboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭cwboy


    NewClareman wrote: »
    If the reinstall doesn't work, it is likely a hardware failure. It isn't the power supply unit, as the satellite services are working. Detailed troubleshooting requires specialised test equipment and expertise.

    You could use a USB terrestrial tuner, as a replacement. If you search other posts you'll get some info on these.

    Can i reinstall from inside the build at flash online?


  • #1316
    cwboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭cwboy


    cwboy wrote: »
    Can i reinstall from inside the build at flash online?

    I reinstalled custom build 20200124.zip but doesn't seem to be any change.

    Wondering about the connection at this stage.


  • #1317
    NewClareman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    cwboy wrote: »
    I reinstalled custom build 20200124.zip but doesn't seem to be any change.

    Wondering about the connection at this stage.

    After reinstalling my build you should try updating the providers again.

    After that it is either a hardware failure or a connection issue.


  • #1318
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,446 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    What location are you in?

    When setting up tuners on box select dvb/t/t2 and do a scan on that only without scanning on other sat


  • #1319
    cwboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭cwboy


    greasepalm wrote: »
    What location are you in?

    When setting up tuners on box select dvb/t/t2 and do a scan on that only without scanning on other sat

    Mt Leinster region. All that seems set up correctly. Nothing happens in a scan. Think the connection might be not working sadly


  • #1320
    NewClareman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    cwboy wrote: »
    Mt Leinster region. All that seems set up correctly. Nothing happens in a scan. Think the connection might be not working sadly

    When using my build, or any other build that uses ABM, you do the scan WITHIN ABM. When you do this the terrestrial bouquet is recreated, with any changes.

    If using my last build there is no need to update ABM, but it is never any harm to update the providers,


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  • #1321
    sqsqswqdwdwq
    Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭sqsqswqdwdwq


    NewClareman wrote: »
    Yeah, that is a classic symptom of a failing electrolytic capacitor. Over time it can build up enough charge to fire the PSU. Unless you have the equipment, and ability, it is not an easy fix. Using a replacement power supply seems the way to go.

    Similar issues with my power supply. The big 450V/150uF cap 'leaked' on the board. I replaced the cap with a new one, but still no lights on the front panel. I'm wondering if the failed cap may have caused damage to other components on the board....
    That said, do you know any place who may have the know-how to repair the board, or, where I can purchase a replacement PSU.


  • #1322
    NewClareman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    sqsqswqdwdwq wrote: »
    Similar issues with my power supply. The big 450V/150uF cap 'leaked' on the board. I replaced the cap with a new one, but still no lights on the front panel. I'm wondering if the failed cap may have caused damage to other components on the board....
    That said, do you know any place who may have the know-how to repair the board, or, where I can purchase a replacement PSU.

    Other users have suggested a 12V, 5A power unit works fine.


  • #1323
    sqsqswqdwdwq
    Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭sqsqswqdwdwq


    NewClareman wrote: »
    Other users have suggested a 12V, 5A power unit works fine.

    I never even thought about that idea - great one - Thanks!


  • #1324
    Mousie32
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭Mousie32


    Hi folks, quick question - I'm just trying to figure out which box to buy. I have two cables from my dish so that is the satellite part sorted. I will have one cable for my terrestrial signal for Saorview. However, we would watch and record a good bit of the Irish channels and I understand about the mux etc. If I where to get a 2x DVB-T box and just split the terrestrial cable near the box would this work to record to different channels on different mux? Alternatively I could get the Zgemma HS7, split the cable, one into the DVB-T and the other into a USB-TV Tuner? Thanks


  • #1325
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,446 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    I have the H7s which is setup and use box for recording many things and if recording on Saorview and needed to watch a different channel my tv has a Saorview tuner which i can use instead.

    If buying a usb tuner it needs to be supported with the correct driver downloaded to box.

    Yes you should be able to split an aerial feed.

    There is much more content to record on sat than aerial.


  • #1326
    Mousie32
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭Mousie32


    greasepalm wrote: »
    I have the H7s which is setup and use box for recording many things and if recording on Saorview and needed to watch a different channel my tv has a Saorview tuner which i can use instead.

    If buying a usb tuner it needs to be supported with the correct driver downloaded to box.

    Yes you should be able to split an aerial feed.

    There is much more content to record on sat than aerial.

    Hi greasepalm,

    Thanks for the reply. I don't think my TV supports Saorview [JVC LT-50C550] that's why I need to use the box.

    I know there is more to record on sat but we only seen to record kids shows on Cbeebies. While on the irish channels I could be recording sport and the wife would want to record something else on at the same time.

    Is the H7s handy to use, i.e. series link etc. I dont mind a bit of faffing about but the wife won't use it if it is not handy.


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  • #1327
    Mousie32
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭Mousie32


    Further to the above - just checked an the tv has a digital tuner so there is a possibility that I could get Saorview through it. Getting a new aerial installed later so will check then!


  • #1328
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,446 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Series link as unsure but when setting a recording for a show i would be given a choice of record once or weekly and hoping time does not change and have recorded many things and still on hdd.
    I might have a 1 or 2 tb hdd installed.


  • #1329
    NewClareman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    Mousie32 wrote: »
    Hi greasepalm,

    Thanks for the reply. I don't think my TV supports Saorview [JVC LT-50C550] that's why I need to use the box.

    I know there is more to record on sat but we only seen to record kids shows on Cbeebies. While on the irish channels I could be recording sport and the wife would want to record something else on at the same time.

    Is the H7s handy to use, i.e. series link etc. I dont mind a bit of faffing about but the wife won't use it if it is not handy.

    Once you have it tweaked, it is as user friendly as Sky+ ever was. I use AutoBouquetMaker, EPGRefresh and AutoTimer on my Tiviar, these are also available for the H7. Once these are configured properly, the box should take care of itself - managing channel changes etc., automatically.

    With the above there is a proper 7 day program guide, and you can set recordings directly from that. For example, Wifey likes her soaps, and they record every episode, without any problem. Even better, she manages all her own recordings, without needing any help.

    I use a USB terrestrial tuner, to avoid recording conflicts. using one of those with the H7 you could record multiple Irish channels, while watching another. I found it well worthwhile having the second tuner, to avoid faffing about changing between the tv and the box. (Ok, ok, keeping Wifey happy �� )


  • #1330
    Mousie32
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭Mousie32


    NewClareman wrote: »
    Once you have it tweaked, it is as user friendly as Sky+ ever was. I use AutoBouquetMaker, EPGRefresh and AutoTimer on my Tiviar, these are also available for the H7. Once these are configured properly, the box should take care of itself - managing channel changes etc., automatically.

    With the above there is a proper 7 day program guide, and you can set recordings directly from that. For example, Wifey likes her soaps, and they record every episode, without any problem. Even better, she manages all her own recordings, without needing any help.

    I use a USB terrestrial tuner, to avoid recording conflicts. using one of those with the H7 you could record multiple Irish channels, while watching another. I found it well worthwhile having the second tuner, to avoid faffing about changing between the tv and the box. (Ok, ok, keeping Wifey happy �� )

    Hi thanks for the reply, what USB tuner do you have? Might pull the trigger and get the h7s. I think the two terrestrial tuners is the way to go. Bit of reading to do now to get your image installed and that - thanks by the way. Happy wife, happy life!


  • #1331
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,446 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Happy wife happy life ,just wait as you can put messages up on laptop and they appear on tv screen:eek::eek::D:D


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  • #1332
    Mousie32
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭Mousie32


    Actually see a Tiviar with 1TB hard drive for sale here:- https://freesat.ie/products/tiviar-alpha-plus-triple-tuner-combo-with-1tb-hard-drive.

    Is there much of a difference between this and h7s? Obviously can get the h7s cheaper?


  • #1333
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,446 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Tiviar is an old box Zgemma h7s is newer

    2 year warranty on the zgemma h7s

    Look here

    https://www.satworld.ie/zgemma-h7s-4k-uhd-1tb.html


  • #1334
    NewClareman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    Mousie32 wrote: »
    Actually see a Tiviar with 1TB hard drive for sale here:- https://freesat.ie/products/tiviar-alpha-plus-triple-tuner-combo-with-1tb-hard-drive.

    Is there much of a difference between this and h7s? Obviously can get the h7s cheaper?

    As greasepalm says, the Tiviar is now quite old. If I were buying now I'd buy the h7s.

    My image is based on OpenATV 6.3. I've explained how to configure any box, earlier on this thread. Having said that, if I was starting again I'd use OpenVix. The latest versions of OpenATV (6.4+) appear targeted at the German market. I found them more trouble than they're worth to configure for general use.


  • #1335
    sqsqswqdwdwq
    Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭sqsqswqdwdwq


    NewClareman wrote: »
    Once you have it tweaked, it is as user friendly as Sky+ ever was. I use AutoBouquetMaker, EPGRefresh and AutoTimer on my Tiviar, these are also available for the H7. Once these are configured properly, the box should take care of itself - managing channel changes etc., automatically.

    With the above there is a proper 7 day program guide, and you can set recordings directly from that. For example, Wifey likes her soaps, and they record every episode, without any problem. Even better, she manages all her own recordings, without needing any help.

    I use a USB terrestrial tuner, to avoid recording conflicts. using one of those with the H7 you could record multiple Irish channels, while watching another. I found it well worthwhile having the second tuner, to avoid faffing about changing between the tv and the box. (Ok, ok, keeping Wifey happy �� )

    What make or model USB tuner are you using? I can't receive Saorview channels from an indoor aerial, so, does that mean that the USB aerial might have the same result?


  • #1336
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,446 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Using an indoor aerial and setting it up to your nearest transmitter as i used a 3" aerial for mine which is 3rock.

    Usb tuner needs driver downloaded from feeds to match your tuner and box rebooted to be seen and used.


  • #1337
    NewClareman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    sqsqswqdwdwq wrote: »
    What make or model USB tuner are you using? I can't receive Saorview channels from an indoor aerial, so, does that mean that the USB aerial might have the same result?
    The USB tuner I use was bought from China, many years ago, for a couple of euro.
    Any dongle with a rtl2832 chipset, such as this one, should be fine. If you search the threads there are suggestions for cheaper alternatives. You then need to download the rtl2832 driver, from the repository.

    My dongle has similar sensitivity to my TV, so it looks like you will need an external aerial.


  • #1338
    Darando
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭Darando


    Where's the best option these days for a H7S?....I know WOS remove VAT but then with Irish VAT/Customs/fee etc coming upon delivery...is it better to get from Satworld?

    Satworld looking a bit more expensive but at a guaranteed price!

    Any recommendations?


  • #1339
    NewClareman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    Darando wrote: »
    Where's the best option these days for a H7S?....I know WOS remove VAT but then with Irish VAT/Customs/fee etc coming upon delivery...is it better to get from Satworld?

    Satworld looking a bit more expensive but at a guaranteed price!

    Any recommendations?

    It's your call, but I would go with an Irish supplier. :)


  • #1340
    Gage Early Program
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Gage Early Program


    I think I've messed up....how can I go back to the way it was after first flashing NewClareman's image? I don't thing I have the latest image flashed so I might flash that and solve a lot of problems together. I do notice a settings backup tar.gz on his Google Drive though.


  • #1341
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,446 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    What image did you download to box.


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  • #1342
    NewClareman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I think I've messed up....how can I go back to the way it was after first flashing NewClareman's image? I don't thing I have the latest image flashed so I might flash that and solve a lot of problems together. I do notice a settings backup tar.gz on his Google Drive though.

    I would suggest just flashing my latest image. However, there is no harm trying the settings backup, first. (I intended the settings backup for people with other boxes, who want to try my settings. Further info, if you search this thread.)


  • #1343
    Gage Early Program
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Gage Early Program


    Yeah flashing the March image sorted things. What prompted me to start tinkering in the first place was ITV2, ITV3 and ITV4 giving a black screen. So I pressed the red button (for all channels), found them there and they're working but if I add them to the Bouquet will they get removed at the next ABM scan? Speaking of which I also tried to start a ABM scan but got a Tuner B scan error. I reckon I have wires going in the wrong inputs.

    This is a relative's setup by the way. I have Virgin so I'm not familiar with the Tiviar on an everyday basis but trying to help!


  • #1344
    NewClareman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yeah flashing the March image sorted things. What prompted me to start tinkering in the first place was ITV2, ITV3 and ITV4 giving a black screen. So I pressed the red button (for all channels), found them there and they're working but if I add them to the Bouquet will they get removed at the next ABM scan? Speaking of which I also tried to start a ABM scan but got a Tuner B scan error. I reckon I have wires going in the wrong inputs.

    This is a relative's setup by the way. I have Virgin so I'm not familiar with the Tiviar on an everyday basis but trying to help!

    Don't add them manually, just do an ABM scan and the restart the GUI to flush the cache.


  • #1345
    Gage Early Program
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Gage Early Program


    Lol I had a look at the Tiviar manual and realised I hadn't the included loop through cable installed. So I put that on, re-flashed your image again and then did an ABM scan (no Tuner B error this time because I had the loop through cable on). The ITV channels (think they're numbered 17, 18, 19) under "Our Favorites" still don't work (black screen) but the ones under the two "Entertainment" bouquets work fine so that's good enough.

    The only option I changed was to enable HDMI-CEC.


  • #1346
    NewClareman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Lol I had a look at the Tiviar manual and realised I hadn't the included loop through cable installed. So I put that on, re-flashed your image again and then did an ABM scan (no Tuner B error this time because I had the loop through cable on). The ITV channels (think they're numbered 17, 18, 19) under "Our Favorites" still don't work (black screen) but the ones under the two "Entertainment" bouquets work fine so that's good enough.

    The only option I changed was to enable HDMI-CEC.

    Ok. I'm away, so the following is from memory...

    You need to configure the the tuner settings to loop through, when using A legacy LNB, with only one feed. This is not necessary with a Unicable LNB.

    Favourites have to be manually updated, as they are not managed by ABM. First delete the old version of the ITV Channels. When tuned into the new version you can add it to favourites, using the remote or WebIF. If you search the posts you'll find how to add, using the remote.


  • #1347
    Gage Early Program
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Gage Early Program


    Can I use a regular 2.5" HDD in this or would an AV hard drive be more suitable? Also are those wifi adapters definitely a bad idea? I see posts from you saying they lock up the Tiviar. Shame.


  • #1348
    NewClareman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭NewClareman


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Can I use a regular 2.5" HDD in this or would an AV hard drive be more suitable? Also are those wifi adapters definitely a bad idea? I see posts from you saying they lock up the Tiviar. Shame.

    Regular HDD are fine, IF you turn off permanent timeshift. (Personally I find permanent timeshift invaluable.)

    WiFi adapters don't lock up the Tiviar, but the WiFi link itself locks up. What does work are Powerline adapters and WiFi extenders with a LAN socket.


  • #1349
    Gage Early Program
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Gage Early Program


    Guess there's no way to put in a small USB drive with a movie on it and play it simply.


  • #1350
    Gage Early Program
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Gage Early Program


    NewClareman wrote: »
    Regular HDD are fine, IF you turn off permanent timeshift. (Personally I find permanent timeshift invaluable.).

    Is permanent timeshift enabled by default? I had a look in settings and was confused by the different terminology. I'm thinking it's not because "autorecord" is set to no. But I can still pause live TV so....


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  • #1351
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,446 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Guess there's no way to put in a small USB drive with a movie on it and play it simply.

    Yes i am sure you can stick in a usb stick with movies on it without having to mount it and view.
    You should also be able to play movies on pc to view and thinking it might have to be mounted to view and play your files.


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