Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

bubblypop wrote: »

It's pretty normal now!
Hotels open week after next, pubs and restaurants open for outdoors the following week, indoor probably July.
Everything else is pretty much open already or in next 2 weeks.

I guess i mean more on the arrival and departure aspect of the trip with regards covid tests and quarantine. Will be very very happy to see all that gone.

bubblypop wrote: »

Spent a lot of time in Finland

It’s a beach and sun I want now but saunas will be good come the winter.

Closing Ireland to travel, business and recreation whilst the rest of Europe is opening is not acceptable.

Ireland was in the 1920s the most backward country in Europe and as result in the many decades that followed it's biggest export was it's people.

In the last year and a half Ireland has reverted to being the most backward country - always with the strictest restrictions - in Europe and the result will be the same.

But not to worry about the economy, jobs, tourism and foreign investment. We'll always have dancing at the crossroads with face masks on.

To those that will congratulate the government next week for any small reduction in restrictions, it's a bit like a couple in a 1920s village praising the match maker for allowing them hold hands, unaware that in other parts of the world you don't even need permission to hold hands.

Hub D15 wrote: »

Closing Ireland to travel, business and recreation whilst the rest of Europe is opening is not acceptable.

Ireland was in the 1920s the most backward country in Europe and as result in the many decades that followed it's biggest export was it's people.

In the last year and a half Ireland has reverted to being the most backward country - always with the strictest restrictions - in Europe and the result will be the same.

But not to worry about the economy, jobs, tourism and foreign investment. We'll always have dancing at the crossroads with face masks on.

To those that will congratulate the government next week for any small reduction in restrictions, it's a bit like a couple in a 1920s village praising the match maker for allowing them hold hands, unaware that in other parts of the world you don't even need permission to hold hands.

This is exactly how I feel. I hope it’s just a temporary setback. Ireland was such an awful place prior to the mid 80s. I’ve been so proud of Ireland throwing off the repressive regime that keep the country impoverished, embracing its place in Europe, becoming outward looking, modern, vibrant and tolerant, it feels like a real kick in the balls what’s going on, hopefully just a dying breath from those that don’t like what Ireland has become. It’s like we haven’t really moved on as a nation.

I still can’t understand how people are cheering on the locking up of a nurse and her children in MHQ, despite the fact she was vaccinated, came from a place of lower covid rates, had a private house to isolate in and moving halfway across the globe in a middle of a pandemic to take up a job with the HSE. But the total lack of compassion, empathy, pragmatism and just cop-on in the case is staggering. I could never understand how joe soap stood by and didn’t object to those abhorrent mother and baby homes, I guess now I do.

Science, cop-on, democracy, empathy all gone, only things that matters is a vague possibility of some variant that may or may not be more transmissible. HSE have now one of the slowest vaccination roll outs in Europe, Germany have 10% more of their population vaccinated, but when you challenge the HSE you get accused of not pulling the green jersey. We deserve better than this.

Lumen wrote: »

This was entirely predictable.

Germany says UK is 'area of variant concern,' bans all non-essential travel
https://www.euronews.com/2021/05/22/germany-says-uk-is-area-of-variant-concern-bans-all-non-essential-travel

Germany will have to ban Germans from going to Spain so. Or perhaps the resorts are effectively segregated still!

Marcusm wrote: »

Germany will have to ban Germans from going to Spain so. Or perhaps the resorts are effectively segregated still!

This was my thought exactly. They’ve no problem letting the German’s mix with British holidaymakers in European holiday destinations but yet a travel ban from the U.K...the skeptic in me thinks this is about politics & Brexit rather than variants.

Valhallapt wrote: »

This is exactly how I feel. I hope it’s just a temporary setback. Ireland was such an awful place prior to the mid 80s. I’ve been so proud of Ireland throwing off the repressive regime that keep the country impoverished, embracing its place in Europe, becoming outward looking, modern, vibrant and tolerant, it feels like a real kick in the balls what’s going on, hopefully just a dying breath from those that don’t like what Ireland has become. It’s like we haven’t really moved on as a nation.
I still can’t understand how people are cheering on the locking up of a nurse and her children in MHQ, despite the fact she was vaccinated, came from a place of lower covid rates, had a private house to isolate in and moving halfway across the globe in a middle of a pandemic to take up a job with the HSE. But the total lack of compassion, empathy, pragmatism and just cop-on in the case is staggering. I could never understand how joe soap stood by and didn’t object to those abhorrent mother and baby homes, I guess now I do. Science, cop-on, democracy, empathy all gone, only things that matters is a vague possibility of some variant that may or may not be more transmissible. HSE have now one of the slowest vaccination roll outs in Europe, Germany have 10% more of their population vaccinated, but when you challenge the HSE you get accused of not pulling the green jersey. We deserve better than this.

Are they? News to me. No one told me Kim Yong-Un took over... :mad:

Slow vaccine rollout? Tbh looks like Germany and Ireland are neck in neck with regard to vaccinations with both countries having close to 40% adults having received at least one dose.

https://www.thelocal.de/20210517/germany-to-offer-covid-jabs-to-all-adults-from-june-7th/

https://www.thejournal.ie/northern-ireland-vaccine-5440863-May2021/

Tbf you do seem give out alot about things and especially about not being allowed to go to a second home abroad - even though as pointed out that wasn't prohibited tbf.

Kinda reminds me a little bit of Willie Years dirges. But yeah I guess Ireland is the Worstest....

Lumen wrote: »

ECDC is using doses per capita (standard international comparison because it relates to how the vaccine supply is distributed and herd immunity threshold), HSE is using percentage of adults or 16+ (because it looks better, or relates to when it can consider the job done, take your pick).

Yes if you take the ECDC data, for every 4 injections the HSE deliver, the Germany equivalent is delivering pro rata 5 injections.

Hi, I have a friend in USA that i havent seen in 2 years and want to see them this summer, what do you think is the most likely way for it to be possible?

A. I go to the USA
B. They come to ireland
C. We meet somewhere like Spain that doesnt have as many restrictions

Valhallapt wrote: »

AKA Tony, he doesn’t bother with cabinet approval before locking down the country.
Don’t bother countering you data, you just posted bollox points to muddy the waters, take the ECDC of a week ago, we were 6.1% behind, somehow I doubt the last week has improved that situation.

Really - and wheres that from? Facebook?
Lol. Not posting "bollox points" about not supposedly being allowed to go abroad for what is deemed essential travel.

And hey not vaccination data btw
17 May 2021

Overall, 37 percent of adults in Germany, Europe’s most populous country, have now had their first jab. More than 11 percent are fully vaccinated.

https://www.thelocal.de/20210517/germany-to-offer-covid-jabs-to-all-adults-from-june-7th/

18 May 2021

(Stephen Donnelly said) that more 40% of adults have received their first dose of the Covid-19 vaccine, the health minister has said.

https://www.thejournal.ie/northern-ireland-vaccine-5440863-May2021/

Maybe take it up with them if you don't agree?

Do you not know that the hack of the HSE IT systems hasn't affected the vaccination rollout here?

So yeah things not looking too bad there are all.

josip wrote: »

Would you please point out where in the constitution it says Tony must inform the Taoiseach before he makes an announcement?

what?

josip wrote: »

Would you please point out where in the constitution it says Tony must inform the Taoiseach before he makes an announcement?

I reckon some of the posters on thread would benefit from visiting here

josip wrote: »

Too deadpan ? :pac:

In hindsight no! But gozunda thanked it so I took it to be serious ;-)

josip wrote: »

2 real questions regarding the Certs:

1. When young children were traveling up to now with PCR negative adults, they did not have to PCR test. Will they now have to have a PCR test if the adults are traveling with a Covid-Cert that they have qualified for based on being vaccinated?
2. (Finger in the wind type question) After the EU Covid Cert is introduced in early July, will other countries accept domestic national vaccination certs from lagard countries (eg, embossed HSE A6 piece of paper) during the subsequent 6 week grace period?

Newstalk announcing just now Green Cert could be mid August now and no guarantee either. Looks like Govt is getting fond of locking people up,