Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

faceman wrote: »

But but but… the variants :pac: :pac:

Here's a recent article for you - which >shriek<
delves into the issue of variants and travel!

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-faces-rocky-time-as-people-head-off-to-europe-on-holiday-due-to-lower-jab-rates-expert-warns-12309768

Enjoy:pac:

gozunda wrote: »

What do you mean an "ECDC approach"?

Neither Portugal, France or Italy etc have been observing the existing EU traffic light system

At best it can be said ' most countries have imposed their own stipulations regarding travel

Well more precisely Germany, Netherlands and Belgium that I have experience of, they all required testing and home quarantine until recently but used the ECDC map to determine who had to and not. More recently they are referring to vaccinated tested or recovered.

AnaB wrote: »

«Ireland to adopt EU travel cert 'as early as we have to'»
RTE News

Fixed that for you

'However, Ireland may not be in a position to fully roll out the EU Covid certificate until mid August because so much testing in the state is carried out by private operators, RTÉ News understands.'

AnaB wrote: »

«Ireland to adopt EU travel cert 'as early as possible'»
RTE News

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.rte.ie/amp/1223001/

gozunda wrote: »

Well it was a bit of humour. But I'll indulge you. But not so much your source erm :pac: :pac:

Twitter handle of above

@JewelleryDiva
"#saveoursummer
#MotherOfGod
Strategist
Award winning research and insight consultant,
Jewellery designer
Gin expert
Proud European and prouder mum to a trainee pilot"

But perhaps more importantly anti masker and covid sceptic ...

:pac:

Irrelevant who posted the twitter post. The fact of the matter is Sage constantly predict doomsday scenarios that never materialised. I have seen it myself from SAGE. We’re all doomed!

brickster69 wrote: »

Hang on this cannot be right, they are asking for trouble surely.

Spain announced today (Friday 21 May) that British holidaymakers are to be allowed into the country from Monday 24 May. They will no longer need to provide a negative Covid test and they will not need to have proof of vaccination.

Read more: https://www.which.co.uk/news/2021/05/government-warns-of-new-travel-rules-when-staying-with-friends-and-family-in-spain-or-france/ - Which?

I know i’m not going to be very popular on here saying this and my apologies if it offends anyone . I think ( in the short term until more are vaccinated) people should only travel if fully vaccinated for now.

Micky 32 wrote: »

Irrelevant who posted the twitter post. The fact of the matter is Sage constantly predict doomsday scenarios that never materialised. I have seen it myself from SAGE. We’re all doomed!

Did I make any claim as to any veracity? So not really sure what you're lecturing about.

It was a bit of humour. Sorry if that offends you.

As for the Twitterer- Oh I'd say its very important you check who is making claims before posting links like that.

Seems fairly good on the old conspiracy theories tbf. As for this :pac:

"#MotherOfGod Strategist, award winning research and insight consultant, jewellery designer, gin expert, proud European and prouder mum to a trainee pilot"

:pac:

brickster69 wrote: »

Hang on this cannot be right, they are asking for trouble surely.

Spain announced today (Friday 21 May) that British holidaymakers are to be allowed into the country from Monday 24 May. They will no longer need to provide a negative Covid test and they will not need to have proof of vaccination.

Read more: https://www.which.co.uk/news/2021/05/government-warns-of-new-travel-rules-when-staying-with-friends-and-family-in-spain-or-france/ - Which?

I’m not suprised by this, southern countries hugely depend on tourism, can’t afford another dead summer. Make is as easy for tourists as possible, the pandemic is under control, we must be near 50% with a jab by now.

brickster69 wrote: »

Hang on this cannot be right, they are asking for trouble surely.

That's one way to look at it but the other way is that Spain needs tourists from the UK and needs them ASAP or else it will destroy their economy, and I don't think I need to explain the impact of society that would have.

'Tourist expenditure also fell dramatically last year. Visitors spent €19.7 billion in 2020, down from €91.9 billion in 2019, a drop of 78.5%. This has had a significant effect on the Spanish economy. In 2019, the tourism industry accounted for 12.4% of Spain's gross domestic product (GDP).'

Micky 32 wrote: »

I know i’m not going to be very popular on here saying this and my apologies if it offends anyone . I think ( in the short term until more are vaccinated) people should only travel if fully vaccinated for now.

Seems perfectly reasonable to me, the UK has a current incidence rate of something like less than 30 cases per hundred thousand.

Meantime, over 16 million Spanish people have received at least one Covid vaccine. A roll out that began with the elderly and most vulnerable like here.

With that cohort protected and the rollout advancing well, I think their approach is absolutely fine

I see sheep wrote: »

That's one way to look at it but the other way is that Spain needs tourists from the UK and needs them ASAP or else it will destroy their economy, and I don't think I need to explain the impact of society that would have.

'Tourist expenditure also fell dramatically last year. Visitors spent €19.7 billion in 2020, down from €91.9 billion in 2019, a drop of 78.5%. This has had a significant effect on the Spanish economy. In 2019, the tourism industry accounted for 12.4% of Spain's gross domestic product (GDP).'

So Spain says no test needed from UK - but if from the EU you do?

I see sheep wrote: »

That's one way to look at it but the other way is that Spain needs tourists from the UK and needs them ASAP or else it will destroy their economy, and I don't think I need to explain the impact of society that would have.

'Tourist expenditure also fell dramatically last year. Visitors spent €19.7 billion in 2020, down from €91.9 billion in 2019, a drop of 78.5%. This has had a significant effect on the Spanish economy. In 2019, the tourism industry accounted for 12.4% of Spain's gross domestic product (GDP).'

What so a plane full of unvaccinated & untested people from Bolton sets off to sunny Spain where they are welcomed with open arms. Mixing with people from the rest of Europe, waiters, hotel staff and everyone else for 2 weeks.

What damage could a few plane loads like that do in a couple of months ?

One of Mick's cheap flights booked to England at the end of June for a weekend away. From my research it looks like I won't need a negative Covid test on arrival there but will need one on the way back. Can anyone confirm or contradict?

Furthermore if I take a test in Ireland before I depart at Dublin airport will that be valid for the return 3 days later?

gozunda wrote: »

I didnt quote you re SAGE. I quoted faceman. You jumped in with four left feet.
And yes its a joke on facemans comment / not meant to be taken seriously. Sorry you can't understand that even where that was pointed out.

But your correct - you're endlessly waffling. Maybe better put down that shovel before you fall head first into the hole you're digging for yourself ...

You’re hilarious :pac: Maybe you should go to a computer class to learn how to qoute the correct poster when on a forum then? You qouted my posts to my replies not Faceman’s. It seems that you are the one digging the hole. You didn’t like it when i pointed out your post was typical SAGE doomongering with their inaccurate predictions. You then resort to attacking the twitter authors to try and get out of the hole you’re digging. News flash that doesn’t make the claim less true. They are genuine SAGE headlines. Nice one

Btw i don’t follow any of those on twitter i found the link elsewhere .