Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

Del Griffith · 19-05-2021 09:19PM

Deleted User wrote: »

This is just you trying to justify the breaking of the rules because you see fit.

You're all over the place.

I didn't mention anything about myself - I left Ireland 6 months ago thankfully and don't have to abide by most of that sh*te. As we know almost everywhere in the EU have some level of restrictions, but nothing like fines and imprisonment for traveling to an airport. Thankfully.

Deleted User wrote: »

You're no better than the minsters who attended golfgate or the travellers with the marquee last week.

This might come as a shock to you (apparently) but I'm not in Government and I'm not implementing any of these policies. So no, not really the same is it?

Deleted User wrote: »

You can dress it up as the government being unreasonable all you want, but it's just plain old selfishness, really. Rules for thee, not for me.

LOL, what? I can choose not to abide by any rule if I do so wish, and if I have to pay a fine then I can choose to pay the fine. You also are free to do the same. I am not telling you to stick to any rules. Bizarre rant.

Deleted User wrote: »

Show me one person who's a member of the "anti-travel brigade".

You can start by checking anyone that thanks a ridiculous post that makes no sense, such as this one of yours that I'm replying to.

Del Griffith · 19-05-2021 09:20PM

saabsaab wrote: »

How do you know who is vulnerable? We need too vaccinate a critical mass of the population to see the back of this for good, hopefully. If we don't we are open to new variants.

I believe the Government has already categorised the vulnerable and organised the vaccine roll out accordingly.

And we'll always be open to new variants.

KanyeSouthEast · 19-05-2021 09:21PM

faceman wrote: »

Dude. Look at the stats. Hospital rates are normal. Covid isn’t hospitalising people like it did months ago. The pandemic is over, the vaccines work.

Vulnerable variants round and round we go.

gozunda · 19-05-2021 09:23PM

Del Griffith wrote: »

That's exactly what I'd like to happen yes. Once the vulnerable are vaccinated, every country should be opening up or at least rolling out a plan to do so.

If you want to cower under your bed and tut at the sound of aeroplanes over head, you are free to do so.

Ah I see the usual idiotic 'coweing under beds" rubbish

So all the British were "cowering under their beds" before starting to rollback their restrictions?

Perhaps you should tell them that and they were "tuting at airplanes" or whatever...

saabsaab · 19-05-2021 09:29PM

faceman wrote: »

Dude. Look at the stats. Hospital rates are normal. Covid isn’t hospitalising people like it did months ago. The pandemic is over, the vaccines work.

You could have said that before Christmas but it wasn't so. Of course the vaccines work but you need to get them into peoples arms in a big way first. It's a bit early to say it is over yet. Hopefully by July.

Del Griffith · 19-05-2021 09:29PM

gozunda wrote: »

That said I'd reckon some of our wannabe I must go on holiday now! people are going to get a bit of a surprise when they end up abroad and learn that very few places are restrictions free - thats of course if they can actually get there and back without getting stuck in quarantine when countries travel statuses can change at the drop of a hat as happened last year.

Spoken like someone that has definitely not been anywhere but Ireland since March 2020.

You seem to genuinely believe every other EU country has the same or equal Covid restrictions (and media doom orgies/curtain twitchers) as Ireland. You are simply wrong in that assumption.

Life on the ground is very very different in plenty of countries outside of Ireland.

Valhallapt · 19-05-2021 09:31PM

Was chatting to a neighbour, his young lad is off to albufiera with 7 of his mates Friday morning. I asked “what about the fines”, he said those were all gone... I didn’t correct, will report back how he gets on.

Del Griffith · 19-05-2021 09:34PM

gozunda wrote: »

Ah I see the usual idiotic 'coweing under beds" rubbish

So all the British were "cowering under their beds" before starting to rollback their restrictions?

Perhaps you should tell them that and they were "tuting at airplanes" or whatever...

Couldn't tell you, you seem to be an expert on international restrictions being a Google fanatic - surely you know?

I'll tell you what though I was in the pub in Bristol last summer without any ridiculous €9 meal to keep me safe.

Dr. Em · 19-05-2021 09:36PM

colemcgrath55 wrote: »

Its free to change date anyway but Im hopeful, the USA arent as psycho about covid as Ireland.

That seems overly optimistic. They have banned non-citizens/non-residents from entering for more than a year! They don't have the option of 14 days in a hotel to get around it: it is a blanket ban. I haven't seen my sister there in almost two years, and not because of Ireland's restrictions. (I was supposed to travel there last summer.) Individual states might have opened up, but not the federal government. They have zero domestic pressure to open up travel as long as their citizens can come and go.

Dr. Em · 19-05-2021 09:44PM

Del Griffith wrote: »

Spoken like someone that has definitely not been anywhere but Ireland since March 2020.

You seem to genuinely believe every other EU country has the same or equal Covid restrictions (and media doom orgies/curtain twitchers) as Ireland. You are simply wrong in that assumption.

Life on the ground is very very different in plenty of countries outside of Ireland.

Your outlook really depends on where you want to go. If you are looking at holiday destinations and can go anywhere, yes, a lot of southern Europe and some further destinations look ahead of Ireland. I can't muster much interest in the news about Ireland's restrictions though, because my close family are in the US and Norway. Norway has mandatory hotel quarantine for citizens and residents and a ban on almost all other travellers. The US just has a ban on non-citizens/non-residents. So by comparison, Ireland looks downright ambitious in talking about August.

embraer170 · 19-05-2021 09:47PM

Dr. Em wrote: »

Your outlook really depends on where you want to go. If you are looking at holiday destinations and can go anywhere, yes, a lot of southern Europe and some further destinations look ahead of Ireland. I can't muster much interest in the news about Ireland's restrictions though, because my close family are in the US and Norway. Norway has mandatory hotel quarantine for citizens and residents and a ban on almost all other travellers. The US just has a ban on non-citizens/non-residents. So by comparison, Ireland looks downright ambitious in talking about August.

You can get into the US by spending two weeks in Mexico. The restriction is on travelling directly to the US.

Dr. Em · 19-05-2021 09:49PM

embraer170 wrote: »

You can get into the US by spending two weeks in Mexico. The restriction is on travelling directly to the US.

Yeah, I barely have the money/time to fly direct. That is not going to work.

gozunda · 19-05-2021 09:53PM

Del Griffith wrote: »

Spoken like someone that has definitely not been anywhere but Ireland since March 2020.

You seem to genuinely believe every other EU country has the same or equal Covid restrictions (and media doom orgies/curtain twitchers) as Ireland. You are simply wrong in that assumption. Life on the ground is very very different in plenty of countries outside of Ireland.

Del Griffith wrote: »

,Couldn't tell you, you seem to be an expert on international restrictions being a Google fanatic - surely you know?

I'll tell you what though I was in the pub in Bristol last summer without any ridiculous €9 meal to keep me safe.

Lol. So along with the people who you don't agree with "cowering under their beds" "tuting at airplanes - they're now "media doom orgies/curtain twitchers"?

Do you actually read the ****e you write?

You say that "You seem to genuinely believe every other EU country has the same or equal Covid restrictions"

Do I? Clearly have not bothered to check

Here's a comment I posted earlier today

gozunda wrote: »

...

But yes different countries having different restrictions - ..

So anyway congrats - you went to a "pub in Bristol last summer" And exactly that makes you an expert in virology how?

Happydays2020 · 19-05-2021 09:56PM

gozunda wrote: »

Lol. So along with the people who you don't agree with "cowering under their beds" "tuting at airplanes - they're now "media doom orgies/curtain twitchers"?

Do you actually read the ****e you write?

You say that "You seem to genuinely believe every other EU country has the same or equal Covid restrictions"

Do I? Clearly have not bothered to check

Here's a comment I posted earlier today

So anyway congrats - you went to a "pub in Bristol last summer" And exactly that makes you an expert in virology how?

So when should normality return?

ShineOn7 · 19-05-2021 09:59PM

Valhallapt wrote: »

Was chatting to a neighbour, his young lad is off to albufiera with 7 of his mates Friday morning. I asked “what about the fines”, he said those were all gone... I didn’t correct, will report back how he gets on.

I half heard something similar on Today FM earlier and I think the government have a big Travel announcement next week?

Perhaps it's confirmation that the fines are no more

They need to let Vaccinated people travel freely to other countries that are open to vaccinated people. I can't remember a more shyte May weather wise and people are going stir crazy to leave the country

Let the fully Vaccinated people travel

gozunda · 19-05-2021 10:08PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

So when should normality return?

Do you mean when does the pandemic end?
That I do not know.

Or do you mean when will things return to exactly the same as they were pre March 2019?

I've no idea tbh.

Do you mean when the bulk of current restrictions will start to be rolled back?

That I can take a guess at. I'd reckon that will most likely be when we have reached close to or on estimated targets for herd immunity which according to current projections is looking like July / August.

Will eveything be the same? I somehow doubt imho. Tbh I can't see there being one defined cut off for eveything. Countries around the world will be a long time returning to the old "normality"

Del Griffith · 19-05-2021 10:08PM

gozunda wrote: »

Lol. So along with the people who you don't agree with "cowering under their beds" "tuting at airplanes - they're now "media doom orgies/curtain twitchers"?

Do you actually read the ****e you write?

You say that "You seem to genuinely believe every other EU country has the same or equal Covid restrictions"

Do I? Clearly have not bothered to check

Here's a comment I posted earlier today

So anyway congrats - you went to a "pub in Bristol last summer" And exactly that makes you an expert in virology how?

You seem to be getting very upset, calm down, breathe, this pandemic is basically over.

Expert in virology? What? I've experience of other countries over the last 15 months that's all. You don't. Sorry about that.

saabsaab · 19-05-2021 10:11PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

So when should normality return?

When a critical mass of our population is vaccinated. Probably end of June early July. Unless we import a new variant that upsets the plan.

gozunda · 19-05-2021 10:14PM

Del Griffith wrote: »

You seem to be getting very upset, calm down, breathe, this pandemic is basically over.

Expert in virology? What? I've experience of other countries over the last 15 months that's all. You don't. Sorry about that.

Do I? I believe I had indicated your last two comments made me laugh. But no matter.

Ah even more silly projections I see Del lol.

Tbf the only thing going stratospheric are your comments and the ridiculous analogies I highlighted . But hey there we are.

josip · 19-05-2021 10:18PM

JTMan wrote: »

https://twitter.com/McConnellDaniel/status/1395081259341295616

Too late now I think, the Shannon horse has already bolted.
I wouldn't expect any travel/tourism related business to invest in the Irish market this year.

eltonyio · 19-05-2021 10:18PM

Sounds like the FF party have finally seen the light, come to their senses and are beginning to turn against internment, pointless additional restrictions, job losses and lack of common sense. Pity it took the Aer Lingus decision to accelerate change.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/taoiseach-signals-comprehensive-plans-to-resume-travel-sport-and-entertainment-1.4569730

Sources said much of the start of the Fianna Fáil meeting was dominated by Aer Lingus’s decision to permanently close its crew base at Shannon Airport with several TDs and Senators raising concern at the move.

Cathal Crowe, a Clare TD, said additional supports for Aer Lingus should include some conditionality related to the retention of air routes, protecting staff and the base at Shannon.

He also argued that mandatory hotel quarantine is “excessive” given the current level of Covid-19 in Ireland and should be wound down.

Clare-based Senator Timmy Dooley said there should be “very significant financial support” for Shannon and key routes to London Heathrow and the US must be protected.

He also criticised Transport Minister Eamon Ryan claiming the Green Party leader has not delivered a plan for reopening aviation.

IrishStuff09 · 19-05-2021 10:25PM

Valhallapt wrote: »

Was chatting to a neighbour, his young lad is off to albufiera with 7 of his mates Friday morning. I asked “what about the fines”, he said those were all gone... I didn’t correct, will report back how he gets on.

FWIW I just graduated and already know about 5 from my year who have travelled to Spain in the last month. They had no issues getting through Dublin airport.

At a best guess, I'd say another 5-10 have bookings for the next few weeks (myself included) or intend to travel soon.

19-05-2021 10:28PM

embraer170 wrote: »

It must be very small numbers right now. There was one officer on duty in T1 the other day. I doubt he would have the resource for many serious discussions with passengers.

2 at each road and 2 at each security area. Outside of breaks and vital coffee runs of course

Feria40 · 19-05-2021 10:32PM

Flash Ryanair sale €5 each way on plenty flights to Europe. Catch is that you have to travel in June. Worth a punt pending what the gov announces next week.

Worst comes to worst just change your flights and put the tenner against a flight later in the Summer

saabsaab · 19-05-2021 10:37PM

josip wrote: »

Too late now I think, the Shannon horse has already bolted.
I wouldn't expect any travel/tourism related business to invest in the Irish market this year.

Aer Lingus wanted out of Shannon for a while.

Tenzor07 · 19-05-2021 10:46PM

saabsaab wrote: »

Aer Lingus wanted out of Shannon for a while.

That doesn't mean anything! And doesn't excuse the complete lack of timelines and plans for lifting of restrictions from the Government.. If the Airlines were told what will happen based on the metrics then they could make plans to keep commercially viable aircraft in Shannon... It's not like the Airlines haven't been asking the Government for its roadmaps to reopening because they've been asking for quite some time now to no avail... and so job losses and loss of connectivity to the Western Region is now lost...
And with the Cork runway being dug up it basically leaves Dublin as the place where people will have to travel to for flights for Business as well as everything... and will ultimately lead to the Shannon and west losing out on investments and jobs too...

Happydays2020 · 19-05-2021 11:03PM

gozunda wrote: »

Do you mean when does the pandemic end?
That I do not know.

Or do you mean when will things return to exactly the same as they were pre March 2019?

I've no idea tbh.

Do you mean when the bulk of current restrictions will start to be rolled back?

That I can take a guess at. I'd reckon that will most likely be when we have reached close to or on estimated targets for herd immunity which according to current projections is looking like July / August.

Will eveything be the same? I somehow doubt imho. Tbh I can't see there being one defined cut off for eveything. Countries around the world will be a long time returning to the old "normality"

When vaccines kick in it is not much more than a cold. Long live normality.

19-05-2021 11:12PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

That doesn't mean anything! And doesn't excuse the complete lack of timelines and plans for lifting of restrictions from the Government.. If the Airlines were told what will happen based on the metrics then they could make plans to keep commercially viable aircraft in Shannon... It's not like the Airlines haven't been asking the Government for its roadmaps to reopening because they've been asking for quite some time now to no avail... and so job losses and loss of connectivity to the Western Region is now lost...
And with the Cork runway being dug up it basically leaves Dublin as the place where people will have to travel to for flights for Business as well as everything... and will ultimately lead to the Shannon and west losing out on investments and jobs too...

But if they were planning on leaving anyway, what difference would a reopening schedule make?

Happydays2020 · 19-05-2021 11:16PM

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

But if they were planning on leaving anyway, what difference would a reopening schedule make?

Tipping points. Certainty is one of those. I am not anti public service in any sense but unfortunately tax revenues will be down over the next years and public servants and public services will be cut. Closing off air connectivity and investment will drive this. Regrettable but true.

Gael23 · 20-05-2021 04:02AM

My Irish relatives in the US are coming to Ireland in July for the first time in 18 months

Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

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