Chu 4 Curfews

Nozebleed · 18-05-2021 11:35am #1

I genuinely find this hard to believe..does anyone think curfews are acceptable? I certainly dont. i would have thought this request by a lord mayor would be all over the news and justifiably ridiculed.

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/portobello-plaza-curfew-being-considered-20618751

WrenBoy · 18-05-2021 11:38am

CurChu's

L1011 · 18-05-2021 11:41am

Most public parks have a closing time (Phoenix Park is a notable exception), this isn't massively different

Hurrache · 18-05-2021 11:42am

Piece of **** thread title all the same.

18-05-2021 11:45am

"Rubbish... public urination".. if only we had the means and tools to tackle such behaviour.

Nah let's just ban people instead of bins and toilets.

18-05-2021 11:52am

I think this time she's bitten off more than she can chu.

suicide_circus · 18-05-2021 11:54am

gilberto_eire wrote: »

"Rubbish... public urination".. if only we had the means and tools to tackle such behaviour.

Completely insurmountable challenges in Ireland

Marcusm · 18-05-2021 11:59am

L1011 wrote: »

Most public parks have a closing time (Phoenix Park is a notable exception), this isn't massively different

That should have been taken by DCC when designing and building the plaza, however. It’s not an enclosed public space and this not susceptible to control in the same manner as an enclosed park. DCC has created a space which would only be enforceable by a permanent police presence, ie they have created the probablility (used advisable) of a problem but want someone else to sort it out.

I have sympathy for those living locally and I abhor the unlawful congregation but especially the mess. However, DCC needs to find a solution it can implement.

Bobblehats · 18-05-2021 12:01pm

Bobblehats · 18-05-2021 12:02pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I think this time she's bitten off more than she can chu.

Chu for caramel chew chew

namloc1980 · 18-05-2021 12:42pm

L1011 wrote: »

Most public parks have a closing time (Phoenix Park is a notable exception), this isn't massively different

Crikey are we now advocating closing off public spaces in urban areas? Man this escalated quickly.

c.p.w.g.w · 18-05-2021 12:45pm

How about we just enforce the laws wie have...

All that public drinking is illegal, arrest as many as you can and charge them, make an example of them, and continue to do so, until people realize their is consequences to their actions

18-05-2021 12:48pm

Thinly veiled ‘it’s our right to hang around and be antisocial’ thread

Donald Trump · 18-05-2021 1:02pm

gilberto_eire wrote: »

"Rubbish... public urination".. if only we had the means and tools to tackle such behaviour.

She's taking the piss

Dyr · 18-05-2021 1:09pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I think this time she's bitten off more than she can chu.

You sure? She strikes me as someone who's can chew a lot

expectationlost · 18-05-2021 1:18pm

Nozebleed wrote: »

I genuinely find this hard to believe..does anyone think curfews are acceptable? I certainly dont. i would have thought this request by a lord mayor would be all over the news and justifiably ridiculed.

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/portobello-plaza-curfew-being-considered-20618751

I presume she means a curfew for that area...? just.

if it were a park they could close it.

WrenBoy · 18-05-2021 1:19pm

Seems to me taking the lazy way out, closing parks altogether instead of policing them.

J.O. Farmer · 18-05-2021 1:24pm

Donald Trump wrote: »

She's taking the piss

Ah no she's not.....well at least I hope not in public anyway. That would be ironic.

enricoh · 18-05-2021 1:34pm

Was in Germany years ago and they had self contained urinals on the streets, it seems a no brainer as the sewer pipe is under the path anyway.
We'll probably get a few feasibility studies and reports done on them , but no actual toilets!

Dyr · 18-05-2021 1:35pm

enricoh wrote: »

Was in Germany years ago and they had self contained urinals on the streets, it seems a no brainer as the sewer pipe is under the path anyway.
We'll probably get a few feasibility studies and reports done on them , but no actual toilets!

The immediate Dublin response is that Junkies would **** in them

Which might suggest that Dublin has a Junkie problem

18-05-2021 1:36pm

On the rubbish issue, I was talking with my father about this last night. I lived in a foreign city in the city centre. Our rubbish collection was paid for out of our taxes so we didn't need to buy a tag, or a sticker or whatever and the bins were collected every two days. Result? The place was spotless.

On the public toilet issue, they had a number of public toilets, manned by well, a man, or often a little old lady. She'd charge a small nominal charge, and if you genuinely didn't have it, she'd let you in, but the charge was to dissuade loitering. He/she kept the place clean and generally kept an eye on the place. Another very easy to implement solution we seem unable to do here.

jimgoose · 18-05-2021 1:38pm

This isn't what a curfew is, this is just closing a public plaza at certain times. I don't often find myself on the same side of the fence as Ms. Chu, but she might actually have a point this time.

enricoh · 18-05-2021 2:01pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

On the rubbish issue, I was talking with my father about this last night. I lived in a foreign city in the city centre. Our rubbish collection was paid for out of our taxes so we didn't need to buy a tag, or a sticker or whatever and the bins were collected every two days. Result? The place was spotless.

On the public toilet issue, they had a number of public toilets, manned by well, a man, or often a little old lady. She'd charge a small nominal charge, and if you genuinely didn't have it, she'd let you in, but the charge was to dissuade loitering. He/she kept the place clean and generally kept an eye on the place. Another very easy to implement solution we seem unable to do here.

Was chatting to a lad in that Barack Obama plaza he was cleaning the toilets. He said he was in them full time basically to stop claims. No doubt there was someone in the women's jacks as well. Dunno what hours it opens but it'd be open 80hrs a week anyway- so 4 wages at least. A fairly substantial cost per annum.

Nozebleed · 18-05-2021 2:16pm

jimgoose wrote: »

This isn't what a curfew is, this is just closing a public plaza at certain times. I don't often find myself on the same side of the fence as Ms. Chu, but she might actually have a point this time.

ok so...we'll be closing off temple bar at 10pm aswell so...where do you want to go with this? calling for a public plaza to be closed off or a curfew put in place is the height of stupidity.

also in ireland its not illegal to drink in public..it is however illegal to be drunk in public. there's a big difference.

18-05-2021 2:25pm

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

How about we just enforce the laws wie have...

All that public drinking is illegal, arrest as many as you can and charge them, make an example of them, and continue to do so, until people realize their is consequences to their actions

There is no such law.

Please try again

jimgoose · 18-05-2021 2:26pm

Nozebleed wrote: »

ok so...we'll be closing off temple bar at 10pm aswell so...where do you want to go with this? calling for a public plaza to be closed off or a curfew put in place is the height of stupidity.

also in ireland its not illegal to drink in public..it is however illegal to be drunk in public. there's a big difference.

I don't want to go anywhere with it because it's not my problem and I don't care. All I'll say is that this is part of the same reason we don't have proper public toilets in Ireland - like many public amenities they're quickly rendered unusable by assorted yobs and head-cases and for some reason the police don't whale fuck out of them with steel-cored batons.

Tacitus Kilgore · 18-05-2021 2:26pm

And there they all are, like flies to shite

Thelonious Monk · 18-05-2021 2:37pm

Don't really know what they're supposed to do here. It had turned into a mini festival a few nights a week, with tonnes of rubbish being left there, even after they put more barrels out as bins. You couldn't really cater for the amount of rubbish produced and people wont take it home with them.
Do we start putting skips there every weekend and public toilets? Would that not just attract bigger crowds to a residential area? I just don't know if we're mature enough as a society for this kind of thing when I see the states places are left in.
With our weather at least it wont be a problem for much of the year and the gatherings will be smaller when bars and restaurants open.

freshpopcorn · 18-05-2021 2:37pm

There is going to be a lot of issues this Summer regarding to people drinking outside, beaches, woods, etc.
It's going to be a tricky situation to manage.

L1011 · 18-05-2021 2:41pm

Nozebleed wrote: »

also in ireland its not illegal to drink in public..it is however illegal to be drunk in public. there's a big difference.

There's no nationwide law. However, individual councils are allowed have their own ban via byelaws, and DCC does. Its just rarely if ever enforced.

conorhal · 18-05-2021 2:55pm

jimgoose wrote: »

I don't want to go anywhere with it because it's not my problem and I don't care.

Talk about an attitude that's the epitome of WHY the problem is a problem in the first place.
The irish and our 'I'm alright Jack' attitude and general lack of civic responsibility is 'why we can't have nice things'.

jimgoose wrote: »

All I'll say is that this is part of the same reason we don't have proper public toilets in Ireland - like many public amenities they're quickly rendered unusable by assorted yobs and head-cases and for some reason the police don't whale fuck out of them with steel-cored batons.

The 'same reason' you’re talking about is anti-social behaviour.
The answer to junkies in the jax isn't closing all the public toilets. The answer to litter bug Larry isn't removing all the bins from the streets and the answer to anti-social behaviour in Portobello isn't closing down public spaces, it's addressing the root of the problem.
If Hazel thinks that withdrawing public amenities from people is the answer to the problem then she has no place in government, local or national. We need politicians that want to fix problems, not sweep them under the carpet and penalize everybody other than the offenders, those politicians need to get out of the way of others prepared to offer solutions that make everybody’s life better, not worse.

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