Wildly Boaring wrote: »
Find the EI survey good
To counter the above, I'm finding the opposite. There is massive churn the last month or so. Big money offers all of a sudden
Companies do have cashflow issues (hence pension stoppage etc) but the short term outlook is very positive and staff retention is difficult
Whatcar212 wrote: »
This exactly sums up a family member of mine. He is on 55K
One of the problems in Ireland is the attitude of not talking to each other about salary.
If everyone communicated and knew what everyone else was making then it empowers everyone when it comes to salary negotiation.
Alkers wrote: »
He is being pretty badly shafted there, he should shop around asap.
Augeo wrote: »
It's not really black and white.......... if he's on €55k and the location suits and he's not doing much over 40 hours/week that might well be preferable to getting €65k somewhere else where the above 40 hours/week expectation is significantly more.
All considered though €55k isn't great for his experience IMO.
Alkers wrote: »
He's still underpaid, the company don't factor in how close he lives to the office on their salary calculations.
shesty wrote: »
Clearly I'm underpaid going by the comments above, but then I'm balancing that against short commute, a company with great flexibility and other benefits like a good pension set up and annual leave and that................
Alkers wrote: »
I posted in the engineering jobs available thread but the courts service are looking for a Chartered Energy Engineer / Building Service Engineer with ten years experience, which they expect to be able to attract with a salary of 32khttps://www.courts.ie/careers
Alkers wrote: »
This has been posted again wit hthe exact same requirements, except that 10 year's experience has been reduced to 6. Still looking for someone Chartered for 32khttps://www.courts.ie/acc/alfresco/405d88d9-ab5c-4bc9-8d0a-1baaaad7111b/Sustainability%20Unit%20Court%20Service%20Booklet%20FINAL%20for%20dates%20%5B2%5D.doc/file#view=fitH
Outkast_IRE wrote: »
I was coming on to post specifically about this job.
I am a building services engineer with 6 years experience and working on my chartership now. So this in theory would be an interesting job proposition for me.
These lads/ladies are taking the absolute mick with this posting. The people posting these ads are probably on the old contract themselves looking at a defined benefit pension, lump sum and probably on 80k+ easily.
You should not be able to hire a chartered engineer with the roles and responsibilites desired for that level of pay. Its unbelievable how out of touch these people must be.
Every other type of employer would offer pay and benefits far in excess of what they are offering .
For 5years experience and recently chartered you should be on 50k+ at least in consultancy , substantially more on the construction side. You would be working your way up the increments 9-10 years before you would match pay with industry, and if you were in industry you would be on proably 70k at that stage.
Engineer grade 3 is the lowest engineer grade - Usually reserved for graduates or similar . This is a grade 2 job.https://www.forsa.ie/other-benefits/pay-and-conditions/pay-scales/civil-service-payscales/
Reading between the lines they know this and state in exception circumstances it can be negotiated but no higher than the HEO starting increment ( which is 52k)
iColdFusion wrote: »
Not even sure why they would need a chartered engineer for that role, you are not going to be signing off on anything and they are significantly reducing the pool of acceptable candidates ( says someone who isn't chartered yet :pac:)
I think vacancies like that are setup to be filled internally, my understanding is someone in a similar public sector job for say 5 years can transfer to that role into the year 5 salary bracket but the employer has an obligation to offer to it the open jobs market also.
Most public sector engineering roles offer quite decent salaries for the stress involved to be fair.
SteadyNed wrote: »
Just saw this on Linkedin. I wonder how many other industries would have to advertise 'no weekend work' as a significant job benefit!https://www.linkedin.com/posts/breagh-recruitment_lead-civil-engineer-with-roads-design-experience-activity-6813043525618286592-4V-v
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