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Rebelbrowser · 14-05-2021 06:14PM

revelman wrote: »

Fergal Bowers saying on Twitter that Dr Tony Holohan has received the advice from NIAC re under-50s “but he has not written to the Minister”.

Pure speculation but if it was the result the Minister wanted, then you’d suspect there would be more urgency about that letter...

Saw that and had some thought. At very least though NIAC need to space out the Pfizer shots after the new research today showing it was 3.5 times more effective if spaced 12 weeks apart

revelman · 14-05-2021 06:23PM

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

Saw that and had some thought. At very least though NIAC need to space out the Pfizer shots after the new research today showing it was 3.5 times more effective if spaced 12 weeks apart

To be fair to the U.K., their scientists theorised this a few months ago and went ahead with a 12 week space for all vaccines. Other countries went the same way in the meantime. Better late than never, I guess...

salmocab · 14-05-2021 06:30PM

Turtwig wrote: »

There might be an element of brown nosing but how many people will openly let their neighbours know if they have an underlying health condition. I'd say they be more inclined to lie and say they've nothing or had mild asthma than release very sensitive info.

Much easier to pretend you've a special relation with the GP than let everyone know you've heart failure.

Actually that’s probably a fair enough point. I’m sure some GPs are being a bit loose with the rules as they are getting good money for it too though.

archfi · 14-05-2021 06:32PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

My daughter just got a date for vaccine !! Cohort 7 via her consultant ! I am so thrilled .

I've just got an SMS for my 1st vaccine appt for next Tuesday, registered last Sunday (no high risk, 50's)
Does this mean the HSE systems are recovering somewhat? Hope so.

hmmm · 14-05-2021 06:33PM

UK scientific advice on the Indian variant. Significantly more transmissible than B.1.1.7 (50%!).

Time in my opinion to give everyone in the country a single dose of vaccine as quickly as possible, and stop dithering.

https://twitter.com/AdamJKucharski/status/1393253535584821252

nibtrix · 14-05-2021 06:50PM

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

I just want to get my vaccine so I can unsubscribe from this thread and the main covid thread for a while.

I thought I’d be the same but I just got my second dose (a couple of hours ago!) and I’m still obsessed with this thread!

I actually think it’s been brilliant, you have the few antivaxxers spewing crap and getting hammered by the science-based responses; lots of people who are nervous or looking for info and being reassured by the knowledgeable people here; lots and lots of statistics and reports (I love a bit of number crunching) and best of all you have the people who are so obviously delighted to be getting their vaccine that every one puts a smile on my face!

Pandiculation · 14-05-2021 06:55PM

Just in case you're registering - the vaccine portal is now back up and running.

iamwhoiam · 14-05-2021 06:55PM

nibtrix wrote: »

I thought I’d be the same but I just got my second dose (a couple of hours ago!) and I’m still obsessed with this thread!

I actually think it’s been brilliant, you have the few antivaxxers spewing crap and getting hammered by the science-based responses; lots of people who are nervous or looking for info and being reassured by the knowledgeable people here; lots and lots of statistics and reports (I love a bit of number crunching) and best of all you have the people who are so obviously delighted to be getting their vaccine that every one puts a smile on my face!

This thread has been very informative and someone always willing to answer a query

stephenjmcd · 14-05-2021 07:00PM

Pandiculation wrote: »

Just in case you're registering - the vaccine portal is now back up and running.

A good sign that the process has begun of bringing back up "safe" systems

14-05-2021 07:04PM

hmmm wrote: »

UK scientific advice on the Indian variant. Significantly more transmissible than B.1.1.7 (50%!).

Time in my opinion to give everyone in the country a single dose of vaccine as quickly as possible, and stop dithering.

https://twitter.com/AdamJKucharski/status/1393253535584821252

That's transmission advantage. It's still too early to say how much of that is a property of the virus itself and how much is a function of other effects (travel, household density etc.). The PHE report yesterday showed the secondary attack rate among non travellers to be about the same as B.1.1.7.

When B.1.1.7 first came along the secondary attack rate compared to other variants shot up across the board. This suggests that B.1.617.2 might be *as* transmissible it's unlikely to be more transmissible. There's a lot of confounders in the data so it will take time to know for sure.

podgeandrodge · 14-05-2021 07:04PM

Pandiculation wrote: »

Just in case you're registering - the vaccine portal is now back up and running.

Has been a couple of hours now. When it was down, there was a page that showed a number you were on the 'queue', not sure what it meant, and whether it referred to how many more appointments were ahead of you.

Micky 32 · 14-05-2021 07:17PM

Hardyn wrote: »

That's transmission advantage. It's still too early to say how much of that is a property of the virus itself and how much is a function of other effects (travel, household density etc.). The PHE report yesterday showed the secondary attack rate among non travellers to be about the same as B.1.1.7.

When B.1.1.7 first came along the secondary attack rate compared to other variants shot up across the board. This suggests that B.1.617.2 might be *as* transmissible it's unlikely to be more transmissible. There's a lot of confounders in the data so it will take time to know for sure.

Germany have put the UK on their red travel list because of this f****g variant.

Pandiculation · 14-05-2021 07:26PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Has been a couple of hours now. When it was down, there was a page that showed a number you were on the 'queue', not sure what it meant, and whether it referred to how many more appointments were ahead of you.

I assume the only good thing about the HSE's systems is they're unlikely to be integrated at any fundamental level. So, I'd say a lot of services will go back live again as soon as they've ironed out where the risk actually is.

The vaccine portal is a cloud service anyway.

stephenjmcd · 14-05-2021 07:27PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Has been a couple of hours now. When it was down, there was a page that showed a number you were on the 'queue', not sure what it meant, and whether it referred to how many more appointments were ahead of you.

Everything was paused, the queue wouldn't bring you anywhere

14-05-2021 07:55PM

Just to follow on. Here's a thread discussing the PHE report from yesterday.

https://twitter.com/kallmemeg/status/1392938581736443910?s=20

Also here's another good one. Well worth a read.

https://twitter.com/erikmvolz/status/1393201817891246081?s=20

ShineOn7 · 14-05-2021 08:07PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Fantastic. Seems like a good chunk of cohort 7 is being dealt with now considering I got my date too today and my cousin also got hers.

Well done

What changed from your GP saying your asthma didn't qualify to then saying it did?

podgeandrodge · 14-05-2021 08:11PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Everything was paused, the queue wouldn't bring you anywhere

Oh sure, I know that. I meant whether the figure displayed by the system at the time of the 404 type screen, had some significance e.g. no. of appointments due to be sent later that day or something. The figure I saw was about 6000, which wouldn't be much. Was just wondering what figure it might be, I wasn't waiting thinking I would get somewhere

Van.Bosch · 14-05-2021 08:23PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

A good sign that the process has begun of bringing back up "safe" systems

Contact tracing and test result systems back now too.

ACitizenErased · 14-05-2021 08:41PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Well done

What changed from your GP saying your asthma didn't qualify to then saying it did?

It was the receptionist who rang me so I didnt even bother asking to be honest as I don't care :pac:

gozunda · 14-05-2021 08:51PM

solerina wrote: »

I was wondering is it because the doctors get 70 euro for each patient they vaccinate...are they pretending they have more of cohort 4 and 7 than they have in reality ? Are any actual checks being carried out

Where are you getting that figure?

The GP covid vaccination plan covers the administration of the Covid-19 vaccines in GP surgeries

Under the plan GPS are paid €25 for administering each dose of the vaccine with an additional one-off €10 processing fee per patient. That’s €60 for two doses and €35 for one dose.

Tyrone212 · 14-05-2021 08:57PM

hmmm wrote: »

UK scientific advice on the Indian variant. Significantly more transmissible than B.1.1.7 (50%!).

Time in my opinion to give everyone in the country a single dose of vaccine as quickly as possible, and stop dithering.

https://twitter.com/AdamJKucharski/status/1393253535584821252

I think they're trying to speed up second doses for the over 50s because of this. They were very slow to add India to the Red list which was very unusual.

seamus · 14-05-2021 09:12PM

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Contact tracing and test result systems back now too.

This is why they paused the idea of turn test centres into walk-in centres.

Fair play to them, long weekend ahead but they're getting the key stuff back quickly

thecretinhop · 14-05-2021 09:15PM

got phone call 2day pfzier lol from gp ecplained i had astra in march

Hodger · 14-05-2021 09:18PM

A question if anyone can help me out which vaccines are being offered to the 30_ 40 age demographics and which vaccines are being offered to the over 60s only ? I'm enquiring for both myself an older relative.

eoinbn · 14-05-2021 09:28PM

Hodger wrote: »

A question if anyone can help me out which vaccines are being offered to the 30_ 40 age demographics and which vaccines are being offered to the over 60s only ? I'm enquiring for both myself an older relative.

As it stands now 30-40 will be offered Pfizer or Moderna. They won't be vaccinated until late June or July.
Over sixties could get any of the 4 vaccines.

blackcard · 14-05-2021 09:51PM

thecretinhop wrote: »

got phone call 2day pfzier lol from gp ecplained i had astra in march

?????????

Hodger · 14-05-2021 10:41PM

eoinbn wrote: »

As it stands now 30-40 will be offered Pfizer or Moderna. They won't be vaccinated until late June or July.
Over sixties could get any of the 4 vaccines.

Thank you for taking the time to reply.

Turtwig · 14-05-2021 11:00PM

Tyrone212 wrote: »

I think they're trying to speed up second doses for the over 50s because of this. They were very slow to add India to the Red list which was very unusual.

Yep clinically vulnerable will be prioritsed for second doses.

thecretinhop · 14-05-2021 11:24PM

thecretinhop wrote: »

got phone call 2day pfzier lol from gp ecplained i had astra in march

got jab 1 astra in galway racecourse
my doc rang 2day 1 jab pzier
told doc
he said lists are not perfect
secondvjab racecouse in a few days...

celt262 · 15-05-2021 12:22AM

thecretinhop wrote: »

got jab 1 astra in galway racecourse
my doc rang 2day 1 jab pzier
told doc
he said lists are not perfect
secondvjab racecouse in a few days...

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