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Fake watch busters

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,152 ✭✭✭893bet


    Don’t worry I got a screen shot first hahaha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,152 ✭✭✭893bet


    It might actually be real. Or at least he believes it real. Scammers rarely engage in public. Prefer via PM etc. Him posting the whatsapp convo is telling in one way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭The Inbetween is mine


    Local Facebook sales page... retail €4000 only wants €150 for it

    Spot the obvious giggle


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Superglue. Be grand. :D

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,329 ✭✭✭Homer




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  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It would be good to copy the images of definite fakes before ads are removed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭SmartinMartin


    Local Facebook sales page... retail €4000 only wants €150 for it

    Spot the obvious giggle

    And there was me thinking "I don't know enough about watches, I'll never be able to spot what they're giggling at".
    Turns out I'm an expert after all :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    Watch is easy to spot looks like garbage, but interesting to see a low quality rep like this come with Box and papers......

    https://www.adverts.ie/casual/rolex-watch/23194241

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 993 ✭✭✭Time


    Fitz II wrote: »
    Watch is easy to spot looks like garbage, but interesting to see a low quality rep like this come with Box and papers......

    Is that style card not too new for that box?

    Edit: looks like the paper behind ends in ER which would be for a sub?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,446 ✭✭✭run_Forrest_run


    I dunno, looks legit, sure it's Grade A :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    https://www.adverts.ie/other-jewellery-watches/womens-rolex-datejust/23375833?notification=81b83260ef21f92b9023d6cb60e38404-1617420899#comment_141175772

    Again people think if you sell them with a low price then everything is ok. Comes will all "geniune rolex papers"

    Screenshot-2021-04-03-072405.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,152 ✭✭✭893bet




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    893bet wrote: »

    That the new Lawn Master - 2?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭mailforkev


    Fitz II wrote: »
    That the new Lawn Master - 2?

    Milgrass


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭eljono


    Mowlex?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    Seedweller


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,152 ✭✭✭893bet


    I have a nice 18 carrot pice at home myself

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,152 ✭✭✭893bet


    Edit that is probably real, not a big fakes model I suspect! just thought it funny.


  • Registered Users Posts: 870 ✭✭✭barney shamrock


    No messers!


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,585 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    893bet wrote: »

    The new GMT

    Grass Mowing Truck


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭Lorddrakul


    Not claiming it as real, but the fake IWC in the ad is no-no.
    ZDAxMzU2NDc5NDliYTg4YzUxMTQzZTg2YzMwY2FkZTaho8PI1FsxP24yu7MjJMFkaHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmFkc2ltZy5jb20vYjI2MTdlOWYzMzAxMjRkZDA1ZjgzZjE0ZTM5Y2FiNDBhMzZkYmUyNzE0MTBhZTFjYTM3M2E3MGY4NWM3MzVmNS5qcGd8fHx8fHw5Mng5MnxodHRwOi8vd3d3LmFkdmVydHMuaWUvc3RhdGljL2kvd2F0ZXJtYXJrLnBuZ3x8fA==.jpg


  • Moderators Posts: 6,870 ✭✭✭Spocker


    Lorddrakul wrote: »
    Not claiming it as real, but the fake IWC in the ad is no-no.
    ZDAxMzU2NDc5NDliYTg4YzUxMTQzZTg2YzMwY2FkZTaho8PI1FsxP24yu7MjJMFkaHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmFkc2ltZy5jb20vYjI2MTdlOWYzMzAxMjRkZDA1ZjgzZjE0ZTM5Y2FiNDBhMzZkYmUyNzE0MTBhZTFjYTM3M2E3MGY4NWM3MzVmNS5qcGd8fHx8fHw5Mng5MnxodHRwOi8vd3d3LmFkdmVydHMuaWUvc3RhdGljL2kvd2F0ZXJtYXJrLnBuZ3x8fA==.jpg

    There it was, gone!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,013 ✭✭✭furiousox




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


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  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They should be told there's a sale and let them show up in the back end of nowhere at 10pm to no one there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,152 ✭✭✭893bet


    That is a seller that should be banned.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,560 ✭✭✭Squeeonline


    I want it on the record that I appreciate the full screenshot as the ad is usually deleted by the time I click any links. Obviously, props to mod team for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,933 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Have been offered this this morning by a friend of a friend and apart from knowing Sly likes a panerai ;)
    Along with a couple of stalwarts from this parish!

    I know next to nothing about them and I don't know why, it might be a rough finish on the movement?
    Or it may well just be my imagination?
    But something I can't actually put my finger on strikes me as off about this.
    I added the pics to my imgbb to be sure they are visible.

    Anyone any idea on whether this is real?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    FAKE AF

    Here is a fake one off internet see no jewel between the P.9011 and the serial number

    http://www.nanawatch.cn/panerai-pam1033-44mm-blue-dial-blue-leather-strap-p9011-vsf-super-clone-p-649.html

    The real P.9001 movement has a jewel there in every case I can find. Some missing brass cogs, screw placements are different and the movement looks small in the case.

    https://watchbase.com/panerai/caliber/p-9010

    Screenshot-2021-05-03-125628.png

    The finish is very rough also with uneven striping on the movement. I dont know panerai but well enough to know they are a quality watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,933 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Fitz II wrote: »
    FAKE AF

    Here is a fake one off internet see no jewel between the P.9011 and the serial number

    http://www.nanawatch.cn/panerai-pam1033-44mm-blue-dial-blue-leather-strap-p9011-vsf-super-clone-p-649.html

    The real P.9001 movement has a jewel there in every case I can find. Some missing brass cogs, screw placements are different and the movement looks small in the case.

    https://watchbase.com/panerai/caliber/p-9010

    Screenshot-2021-05-03-125628.png

    The finish is very rough also with uneven striping on the movement. I dont know panerai but well enough to know they are a quality watch.

    Thanks for that Fitz.
    I had made my mind to not bother with it before your post.
    The balance looks completely different too.

    That said I am glad that my Spidey sense tingled, because in hand...
    It felt the part, well as much as something could feel the part when one has no experience of a real one can guess.

    The backside and the finishing are what put me off but like I said, I know nothing about them.

    That's a bit of cash better off in my pocket to throw at #AMC later today :pac:

    It is a dangerous world out there for buyers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    banie01 wrote: »
    That's a bit of cash better off in my pocket to throw at #AMC later today :pac:
    !

    Better in a fake panerai than AMC thats a dog of a stock, but I have paper hands. :eek:

    Make sure to tell your friend its a dud, hopefully save the next fellow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,933 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Fitz II wrote: »
    Better in a fake panerai than AMC thats a dog of a stock, but I have paper hands. :eek:

    Make sure to tell your friend its a dud, hopefully save the next fellow.

    Well he isn't my friend, rather a friend of one of one.

    I'll break the news to him later today, I hope he takes it ok rather than as a price tactic, because let's be honest.
    If one wants to buy a Panerai, that's what they want not a fake Panerai at a near real price.

    As for AMC, I'm nicely in profit on it and if I get in and around Friday's closing price I'll be happy to let it ride another little bit. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    banie01 wrote: »
    Well he isn't my friend, rather a friend of one of one.

    I'll break the news to him later today, I hope he takes it ok rather than as a price tactic, because let's be honest.
    If one wants to buy a Panerai, that's what they want not a fake Panerai at a near real price.

    As for AMC, I'm nicely in profit on it and if I get in and around Friday's closing price I'll be happy to let it ride another little bit. ;)

    Well I have a few AMC with a BEP of 19 USD...I will give them to you for 18 each if your interested?....FML


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,933 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Fitz II wrote: »
    Well I have a few AMC with a BEP of 19 USD...I will give them to you for 18 each if your interested?....FML

    Jesus! You need the squeeze Fitz!

    My BEP is $9.20!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭Lorddrakul


    banie01 wrote: »
    Jesus! You need the squeeze Fitz!

    My BEP is $9.20!
    Fitz II wrote: »
    Well I have a few AMC with a BEP of 19 USD...I will give them to you for 18 each if your interested?....FML

    Is this some kind of code?

    I'm not sure who is grooming who, but I'm worried.

    Help! I need an adult here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,933 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Lorddrakul wrote: »
    Is this some kind of code?

    I'm not sure who is grooming who, but I'm worried.

    Help! I need an adult here.

    AMC is a memestock, one of those ones that some on Reddit at least are convinced will explode in price.
    Its AMC theatres, huge worldwide cinema chain.

    BEP is break even point, its the price a stock needs to reach for you to get out without a loss.

    I usually would not go near a meme stock, but the DD on both GME and AMC is weirdly compelling and I may well be falling victim to the madness of the crowd!

    But I have a trailing stop loss and its far more fun than college at the moment :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,933 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Spoke with "Panerai" owner and broke the news that I don't think the watch is the real McCoy.
    Had a few more movement photos and comparison shots to show him too, just to not seem cúnty about it.

    It wasn't well received news, the guy says he has 6k sunk into the watch and that I'm wrong.
    Oh well.
    I'd rather be wrong than left with a paperweight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭Lorddrakul


    banie01 wrote: »
    Spoke with "Panerai" owner and broke the news that I don't think the watch is the real McCoy.
    Had a few more movement photos and comparison shots to show him too, just to not seem cúnty about it.

    It wasn't well received news, the guy says he has 6k sunk into the watch and that I'm wrong.
    Oh well.
    I'd rather be wrong than left with a paperweight.

    Oh dear.

    I can see how that would come as a shock.

    I am used my tame horologist saying 'you've not spent well and could have done better for the price if you'd talked to me', but being told something is simply not genuine would hurt.

    Still, better he knows from you rather than someone who might be less diplomatic in their communication.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,152 ✭✭✭893bet


    Panerai were traditionally one of the most faked watches as they were relatively simple to fake. Not sure if that still holds true now that display case era is on us.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭redlead


    I held AMC from about 3 months before the pandemic with a BEP of about 10. Was looking at 80 percent losses until the whole GME debacle. Got out at 16 or something. Pure luck. They basically forced me out of Nokia though because had been building that as a long term investment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    banie01 wrote: »
    It wasn't well received news, the guy says he has 6k sunk into the watch and that I'm wrong.
    t.

    You are not wrong,.I feel sorry for the fellow really, thats a lot of dosh down the drain. Panerai scares the **** out of me for that reason far to easy to fake and not a lot of experiance out there in spotting the fakes. Still a much better effort than the SubMAINer recently, but anyone who has ever played a game of spot the difference can tell his one is bogus.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    893bet wrote: »
    Panerai were traditionally one of the most faked watches as they were relatively simple to fake. Not sure if that still holds true now that display case era is on us.
    Plus they aren't nearly as popular as they were a few years back, so the fakers see more coin faking Rolex and Patek. Even the "official" homages are thinner on the ground these days.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭covey123


    OmegaGene wrote: »
    Fake clasp on this tag not 100% sure on the watch as the fakes on that model are very good


    https://www.adverts.ie/23726881


    The seller has an F1 strap for sale separately in their other ads, could it be genuine?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,933 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    griffin100 wrote: »

    Sweet mother of Christ!
    I mean it's nice he has a hobby ;)
    But FFS, he surely could have bought a gen or 3 for the money he laid out?
    Esp on the tags.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    I am reminded of a Flat Earth documentary I saw once. Obviously everyone was taking the piss out of the flat earthers, but one professor made the great point that behind every flat earther is a scientist waiting to break through. They ask questions, make predictions and observations its just they come to the wrong conclusions. I am reminded of this here. Obviously somebody that loves collecting and watches but just decided to go down the rep route and got into it balls deep into this crap. Hopefully is selling to get something worthwhile.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    How many times has he sold this watch? The only other things he has sold are scaldy Hugo Boss tracksuits

    http://www.adverts.ie/23806430

    Edit - actually the watch doesn't look fake but the situation isn't comforting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    banie01 wrote: »
    Sweet mother of Christ!
    I mean it's nice he has a hobby ;)
    But FFS, he surely could have bought a gen or 3 for the money he laid out?
    Esp on the tags.

    That’s hardly a collector as such though .I would of thought he’s someone selling sh*t for a profit as opposed to someone who has built a collection over time which just happens to be a collection of tat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    banie01 wrote: »
    Sweet mother of Christ!
    I mean it's nice he has a hobby ;)
    But FFS, he surely could have bought a gen or 3 for the money he laid out?
    Esp on the tags.

    Maybe he just buys them to order.


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