Fake watch busters

Fitz II wrote: »

FAKE AF

Here is a fake one off internet see no jewel between the P.9011 and the serial number

http://www.nanawatch.cn/panerai-pam1033-44mm-blue-dial-blue-leather-strap-p9011-vsf-super-clone-p-649.html

The real P.9001 movement has a jewel there in every case I can find. Some missing brass cogs, screw placements are different and the movement looks small in the case.

https://watchbase.com/panerai/caliber/p-9010



The finish is very rough also with uneven striping on the movement. I dont know panerai but well enough to know they are a quality watch.

Thanks for that Fitz.
I had made my mind to not bother with it before your post.
The balance looks completely different too.

That said I am glad that my Spidey sense tingled, because in hand...
It felt the part, well as much as something could feel the part when one has no experience of a real one can guess.

The backside and the finishing are what put me off but like I said, I know nothing about them.

That's a bit of cash better off in my pocket to throw at #AMC later today :pac:

It is a dangerous world out there for buyers!

Fitz II wrote: »

Better in a fake panerai than AMC thats a dog of a stock, but I have paper hands. :eek:

Make sure to tell your friend its a dud, hopefully save the next fellow.

Well he isn't my friend, rather a friend of one of one.

I'll break the news to him later today, I hope he takes it ok rather than as a price tactic, because let's be honest.
If one wants to buy a Panerai, that's what they want not a fake Panerai at a near real price.

As for AMC, I'm nicely in profit on it and if I get in and around Friday's closing price I'll be happy to let it ride another little bit.

Fitz II wrote: »

Well I have a few AMC with a BEP of 19 USD...I will give them to you for 18 each if your interested?....FML

Jesus! You need the squeeze Fitz!

My BEP is $9.20!

Lorddrakul wrote: »

Is this some kind of code?

I'm not sure who is grooming who, but I'm worried.

Help! I need an adult here.

AMC is a memestock, one of those ones that some on Reddit at least are convinced will explode in price.
Its AMC theatres, huge worldwide cinema chain.

BEP is break even point, its the price a stock needs to reach for you to get out without a loss.

I usually would not go near a meme stock, but the DD on both GME and AMC is weirdly compelling and I may well be falling victim to the madness of the crowd!

But I have a trailing stop loss and its far more fun than college at the moment :P

banie01 wrote: »

Spoke with "Panerai" owner and broke the news that I don't think the watch is the real McCoy.
Had a few more movement photos and comparison shots to show him too, just to not seem cúnty about it.

It wasn't well received news, the guy says he has 6k sunk into the watch and that I'm wrong.
Oh well.
I'd rather be wrong than left with a paperweight.

Oh dear.

I can see how that would come as a shock.

I am used my tame horologist saying 'you've not spent well and could have done better for the price if you'd talked to me', but being told something is simply not genuine would hurt.

Still, better he knows from you rather than someone who might be less diplomatic in their communication.

I held AMC from about 3 months before the pandemic with a BEP of about 10. Was looking at 80 percent losses until the whole GME debacle. Got out at 16 or something. Pure luck. They basically forced me out of Nokia though because had been building that as a long term investment.

You wouldn’t know whether to laugh or cry!!

https://www.donedeal.ie/jewellery-for-sale/hublot-replica-collection/27284053?campaign=14

https://www.donedeal.ie/jewellery-for-sale/rolex-replica-sports-collection/27282420?campaign=14

https://www.donedeal.ie/jewellery-for-sale/tag-heuer-replica-collection/27283726?campaign=14

I am reminded of a Flat Earth documentary I saw once. Obviously everyone was taking the piss out of the flat earthers, but one professor made the great point that behind every flat earther is a scientist waiting to break through. They ask questions, make predictions and observations its just they come to the wrong conclusions. I am reminded of this here. Obviously somebody that loves collecting and watches but just decided to go down the rep route and got into it balls deep into this crap. Hopefully is selling to get something worthwhile.

banie01 wrote: »

Sweet mother of Christ!
I mean it's nice he has a hobby
But FFS, he surely could have bought a gen or 3 for the money he laid out?
Esp on the tags.

That’s hardly a collector as such though .I would of thought he’s someone selling sh*t for a profit as opposed to someone who has built a collection over time which just happens to be a collection of tat

Excuse my ignorance but is the asking price for the whole collection or per watch?

Passenger wrote: »

Is selling Reps permitted on DoneDeal?

I think selling genuine watches is not allow over there, its a cesspool.

^^ That is pretty blatant, surely no one would think that's genuine.

NIMAN wrote: »

I find it strange that those sellers ever find buyers for their junk.

After all, I would guess that most people who will drop 9k on a watch, would be fairly knowledgeable about the subject.

No way they are going to fooled by that. Surely?

And yet Nigerian prince scams are still floating around... you just need one bite to make massive profit.

Speaking to the postal workers who I've gotten distinctly familiar with recently - they tell me the amount of people who come in and send money via Western Union and can't be talked out of it being a scam is common enough to be a problem.

This is one area where actually China has it better - bank officials/postal workers will ring the police and let them come down to explain to senior citizens etc. that the priest in X country asking for funds to unlock $5million dollars and they will get 10% is actually a scammer...

In China though the scammers can rot in hell - one thing that was especially popular a few years ago was someone pretending to be a hospital sending you an "emergency text" saying your (single child policy remember) child is on the operating table and need funds to perform life-saving surgery - do you stop and ring the school to see if your child is okay or in the heat of the moment decide to send thousands so your child can get their life-saving operation? Thank goodness for GDPR here...

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Reported last week but moderator decided fake was ok clearly.