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Darc19 · 05-05-2021 11:49pm

Suckit wrote: »

Does this look right?

Item is priced €24.02 - shipping is free but they included it, then added tax and then removed it.
So I would have thought tax or import fees should be zero, as they are below negligible amount with free shipping.

That is correct as the free shipping still has a cost even if you are not being charged

whiterebel · 06-05-2021 12:26am

Suckit wrote: »

Yeah thanks, that's mainly why I was querying the price. I got it for €15 delivered with code last time - the code was under the listing. So I wouldn't fancy paying around twice that for it now.

Thanks, hadn't realised that. Any idea why was that scrapped?
They should update the revenue.ie site.

Ah... Hadn't realised that either, so that is obviously the reason why. Nice of amazon to be so concerned about other countries taxes.. :rolleyes:

Thanks all..

Amazon have a legal obligation to Revenue to do it correctly. They pay the necessary tax in Ireland. Revenue tidied up a lot of pages, if you query it with them it will probably be removed straight away.

theWebAdvisor · 08-05-2021 11:47pm

Suckit wrote: »

Does this look right?

Item is priced €24.02 - shipping is free but they included it, then added tax and then removed it.
So I would have thought tax or import fees should be zero, as they are below negligible amount with free shipping.

The 24.02 is Amazon UK's price including UK VAT, however they are delivering directly to Ireland, the end customer is not UK based. Certainly I would have thought it would be 24.02 minus 20% UK VAT and then calculations apply. Previously did Amazon not change the final amount to reflect Irish VAT.
If my interpretation is correct it is a nice margin enhancement for someone.
I did run a couple of test orders below any duty rates on a Amazon business account with VAT broken down and showed both UK VAT and then "import fees" being applied as the order was below duty rates VAT was the only item due to Irish revenue. I stuck to free shipping so all fulfilled by Amazon.

antimatterx · 09-05-2021 12:14pm

This isn't correct right?

Amazon aren't removing the Uk vat a checkout, and they're then adding irish vat.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07MM4V7NR/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3QGNG67LYQEJK&psc=1

user302243 · 09-05-2021 12:17pm

antimatterx wrote: »

This isn't correct right?

Amazon aren't removing the Uk vat a checkout, and they're then adding irish vat.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07MM4V7NR/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3QGNG67LYQEJK&psc=1

It is. Sold by third party with no UK VAT to be removed.

whiterebel · 09-05-2021 12:22pm

Not sold by Amazon?

The Continental Op · 09-05-2021 12:29pm

antimatterx wrote: »

This isn't correct right?

Amazon aren't removing the Uk vat a checkout, and they're then adding irish vat.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07MM4V7NR/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3QGNG67LYQEJK&psc=1

Most sellers that have their stuff fulfilled by Amazon take the VAT off, however some don't show the VAT separately in the price (the invoice shows no VAT) in which case the VAT doesn't come off.

I had this, needed the item anyway so went ahead then contacted the seller after it arrived and got a refund of the UK VAT but can't be sure if all sellers will do that. I contacted Amazon first and they said VAT or any refund was up to the seller and to contact the seller.

davetherave · 09-05-2021 1:50pm

theWebAdvisor wrote: »

The 24.02 is Amazon UK's price including UK VAT, however they are delivering directly to Ireland, the end customer is not UK based. Certainly I would have thought it would be 24.02 minus 20% UK VAT and then calculations apply. Previously did Amazon not change the final amount to reflect Irish VAT.
If my interpretation is correct it is a nice margin enhancement for someone.
I did run a couple of test orders below any duty rates on a Amazon business account with VAT broken down and showed both UK VAT and then "import fees" being applied as the order was below duty rates VAT was the only item due to Irish revenue. I stuck to free shipping so all fulfilled by Amazon.

No, that doesn't seem right. The item price is the item price before VAT is charged. If they are at the "Buy in GBP" stage then they have selected an address and payment card. The €24.02 is just the item price.

smile.amazon.co.uk/GL-iNet-GL-MT300N-V2-Converter-Pre-installed-Performance/dp/B073TSK26W

Same item: Going to a Belfast address with HMRC getting their cut.

Amazon.co.uk Order Summary
Items: GBP 21.57
Postage & Packing: GBP 0.00
Total before VAT: GBP 21.57
Estimated VAT: GBP 4.31
Order Total: GBP 25.8

Going to a Dublin Address with Revenue getting their cut.
Order Summary
Items: GBP 21.57 (EUR 24,82)
Postage & Packing: GBP 0.00
Import Fees Deposit: GBP 4.96 (EUR 5,71)
Order Total: GBP 26.53 (31,18)

Same item price, different vat amounts.

stevetalk · 11-05-2021 10:52pm

Just bought something off English Amazon and it had the option for economy delivery to keep the price under the customs threshold. No delivery date was given, anyone have any idea when I can expect it? I'm guessing 2+ weeks

Suckit · 11-05-2021 11:45pm

stevetalk wrote: »

Just bought something off English Amazon and it had the option for economy delivery to keep the price under the customs threshold. No delivery date was given, anyone have any idea when I can expect it? I'm guessing 2+ weeks

I can't imagine economy delivery from the UK would take 2 weeks unless they are using it as a reason for you to use an alternative paid delivery in the future, which could be a possibility.

Slow economy delivery I would expect to take a week - 10 days at most.

stevetalk · 13-05-2021 6:29pm

Suckit wrote: »

I can't imagine economy delivery from the UK would take 2 weeks unless they are using it as a reason for you to use an alternative paid delivery in the future, which could be a possibility.

Slow economy delivery I would expect to take a week - 10 days at most.

Got an email today. 17th June. I said **** it and paid the extra fiver to get it next week. Economy delivery seems to be about 5 weeks.

1huge1 · 13-05-2021 6:32pm

Unusual, I though most economy deliveries came within a week.

Suckit · 13-05-2021 6:32pm

stevetalk wrote: »

Got an email today. 17th June. I said **** it and paid the extra fiver to get it next week. Economy delivery seems to be about 5 weeks.

Maybe it's coming from Europe? Seems a bit mad otherwise.

VG31 · 13-05-2021 6:45pm

Suckit wrote: »

Maybe it's coming from Europe? Seems a bit mad otherwise.

I highly doubt it. I've had Amazon orders shipped from Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, Spain and France in the last month and none have taken more than 5 days.

They probably just take ages to dispatch it.

EarWig · 13-05-2021 9:00pm

stevetalk wrote: »

Got an email today. 17th June. I said **** it and paid the extra fiver to get it next week. Economy delivery seems to be about 5 weeks.

Maybe that's your problem. I never pay for delivery and it still comes in a few days. You've shown you care about speed of delivery. I don't.

Suckit · 14-05-2021 12:21am

VG31 wrote: »

I highly doubt it. I've had Amazon orders shipped from Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, Spain and France in the last month and none have taken more than 5 days.

They probably just take ages to dispatch it.

Same as that. I meant maybe coming from Europe to UK warehouse and then to be shipped out. Far more likely coming from USA or China, which maybe why they are asking for payment for faster delivery.
I got a phone from Spain on the way and the fast shipping was only €1 more than the slow, and the slow was estimated 12 days.
No idea why economy would be 5 weeks from the UK. Presumably not dispatched by Amazon.

Caranica · 24-05-2021 7:24am

Another S&S big delivery month (building stockpile before July 1st). Every item dispatched individually via An Post. 99.9% of my other deliveries come via Amazon Logistics so I don't get why this stuff comes in the post, some of it is quite bulky e.g kitchen roll

pgj2015 · 27-05-2021 9:31pm

anyone having problems getting items dispatched from amazon uk? I ordered a football pump but after 3 weeks it hadnt been dispatched so i canceled it. then i ordered another pump on 15 may from a different seller, it hasnt been dispatched yet either. what is going on?

NewbridgeIR · 27-05-2021 9:36pm

My issue with Amazon UK at moment is the unavailability of new music releases (CDs, vinyl, multi disc sets). They're just listed for pre-order and are already "temporarily unavailable" if you're ordering from outside UK. Some of them become available closer to release date but others have to be obtained from elsewhere. It's affecting more than Irish customers as I see online discussion from people in other parts of Europe not being able to order items. All of this is down to Brexit. For some reason, DVDs and BDs are not affected.

Rael · 28-05-2021 1:58pm

I haven't ordered from Amazon.co.uk since the end of December, just before Brexit. I ordered a beard trimmer (in-stock and fulfilled by Amazon) on Sunday and just got a delivery date of 18 July. I have Prime and it's shipping via priority delivery.

Can anyone explain what is going on and why it'll take so long?

The Continental Op · 28-05-2021 2:01pm

Rael wrote: »

I haven't ordered from Amazon.co.uk since the end of December, just before Brexit. I ordered a beard trimmer (in-stock and fulfilled by Amazon) on Sunday and just got a delivery date of 18 July. I have Prime and it's shipping via priority delivery.

Can anyone explain what is going on and why it'll take so long?

It will probably arrive before that but what can happen is that the stock is in a warehouse that doesn't ship directly to Ireland (could even be in Germany or France) so they either eventually get around to shipping from the EU or wait till its back in stock in a nearer fulfillment center.

But I'm open to other suggestions.

Rael · 28-05-2021 2:06pm

The Continental Op wrote: »

It will probably arrive before that but what can happen is that the stock is in a warehouse that doesn't ship directly to Ireland (could even be in Germany or France) so they either eventually get around to shipping from the EU or wait till its back in stock in a nearer fulfillment center.

But I'm open to other suggestions.

Thanks for the explanation. Overall situation seems mad.

Wabbit Ears · 28-05-2021 4:06pm

Getting real tired of amazon now, Would jump to a competitor in a heartbeat if they offered a similar service due to the amount of sellers refusing to ship to ireland at all. its ridiculous, id even pay for shipping but Nope..

1huge1 · 28-05-2021 4:20pm

In fairness, I haven't had much issues to be honest (bar January and February when Brexit made a mess of everything but that has passed). All items usually delivered within 48hrs.

If anything, I've made some nice savigns with VAT not being charged for most goods under £22. Not good for the Irish revenue service of course.

It will inprove further when the fulfillment centre in West Dublin opens early next year.

pgj2015 · 28-05-2021 6:34pm

Wabbit Ears wrote: »

Getting real tired of amazon now, Would jump to a competitor in a heartbeat if they offered a similar service due to the amount of sellers refusing to ship to ireland at all. its ridiculous, id even pay for shipping but Nope..

Is there not a service an post offer to get around the issue of sellers not shipping to Ireland? address pal?

Suckit · 28-05-2021 7:06pm

pgj2015 wrote: »

Is there not a service an post offer to get around the issue of sellers not shipping to Ireland? address pal?

Think you are charged their fee + vat on whatever it is and a possible service fee. So for example a €50 item might cost €69.50 + €3.50 service fee.

pgj2015 · 28-05-2021 7:23pm

Suckit wrote: »

Think you are charged their fee + vat on whatever it is and a possible service fee. So for example a €50 item might cost €69.50 + €3.50 service fee.

oh right. parcel wizard used to just charge 3.85. better times.:)

Sheep Shagger · 29-05-2021 11:00pm

pgj2015 wrote: »

oh right. parcel wizard used to just charge 3.85. better times.:)

Pre brexit times....

NATLOR · 30-05-2021 8:59am

Had a banner offering me student prime 6 months free then half price. Clicked it to see, and all I had to do was enter a finishing date and it activated!
I'm not a student

Don keebals · 30-05-2021 9:05am

There's a company in belcoo county Fermanagh offering an address service , it's called parcel motel I pass by the shop regular , they also have a Facebook page......I have no experience using these guys as i use my mother-in-laws northern address. .... Edit..... apologies it's called border parcel motel.

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