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Temporary Clerical Officer 2021 in the Civil and Public Service (Please read OP)

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    #632
    Banana Republic 1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    daffodill50 wrote: »
    Guys can someone tell me, if you've done a few TCO stints before does this count towards what scale you start on on a new TCO assignment , or is that only relevant for Perm jobs?

    Yes but they make it very difficult to get it. Last time I asked I was told you have to get a letter from your previous manager/hr. I suggested that the pmds records prove my service, answer was no we need a letter. So the whole thing is a giant snafu!


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    #633
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users Posts: 25,689 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Banana Republic 1 wrote: »
    Yes but they make it very difficult to get it. Last time I asked I was told you have to get a letter from your previous manager/hr. I suggested that the pmds records prove my service, answer was no we need a letter. So the whole thing is a giant snafu!

    It's good practice to get a letter like this every time you leave a job, public or private sector.


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    #634
    doc22
    Registered Users Posts: 856 ✭✭✭doc22


    Banana Republic 1 wrote: »
    Yes but they make it very difficult to get it. Last time I asked I was told you have to get a letter from your previous manager/hr. I suggested that the pmds records prove my service, answer was no we need a letter. So the whole thing is a giant snafu!

    What department was this?


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    #635
    Nigel Fairservice
    Registered Users, Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,177 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    Banana Republic 1 wrote: »
    Yes but they make it very difficult to get it. Last time I asked I was told you have to get a letter from your previous manager/hr. I suggested that the pmds records prove my service, answer was no we need a letter. So the whole thing is a giant snafu!

    HR departments are well used to this kind of request. Just fire off an email to the general HR email address and they should get back to you. That's what I did anyway when I got permanancy and had to gather up all my TCO service for increments.


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    #636
    daffodill50
    Registered Users Posts: 115 ✭✭daffodill50


    Nigel Fairservice wrote: »
    HR departments are well used to this kind of request. Just fire off an email to the general HR email address and they should get back to you. That's what I did anyway when I got permanancy and had to gather up all my TCO service for increments.


    Nigel, could you tell me what email you sent the request to? Thanks!


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    #637
    Nigel Fairservice
    Registered Users, Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,177 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    daffodill50 wrote: »
    Nigel, could you tell me what email you sent the request to? Thanks!

    That would be specific to your department(s). Most government department HRs would have a general email address for queries.


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    #638
    Banana Republic 1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    doc22 wrote: »
    What department was this?


    Nigel Fairservice wrote: »
    HR departments are well used to this kind of request. Just fire off an email to the general HR email address and they should get back to you. That's what I did anyway when I got permanancy and had to gather up all my TCO service for increments.

    At that time I was in social welfare and I had previous stints in revenue. In my experience Human Remains departments in general are amongst the least efficient sections to ever to exist.


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    #639
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Banana Republic 1 wrote: »
    At that time I was in social welfare and I had previous stints in revenue. In my experience Human Remains departments in general are amongst the least efficient sections to ever to exist.

    :D:D:D typo I assume!


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    #640
    Banana Republic 1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    :D:D:D typo I assume!

    A deliberate typo !


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    #641
    little mrs
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭little mrs


    Incremental Credit/Progression
    If you had previous service in the Civil/Public Service in the same or analogous grade or one grade above at the time of application, you may be entitled to Incremental Credit / Progression. This only applies to CO/EO grades.
    Temporary service is only applicable from 14th July 2003 onwards.
    In order to apply you must supply HR with a letter from your previous Department on headed paper detailing the following:
     Name
     PPSN
     Grade you were previously employed as
     Dates you worked
     Any unpaid leave
     Any work-sharing

    Hope this helps


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    #642
    little mrs
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭little mrs


    Has any of you come across anyone who has worked as a TCO for 4 yrs and if so, was it easy to get a CID?


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    #643
    Nigel Fairservice
    Registered Users, Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,177 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    little mrs wrote: »
    Has any of you come across anyone who has worked as a TCO for 4 yrs and if so, was it easy to get a CID?

    I have but it was a few years ago. The people that got it were in the civil service long before I was. Can't really remember the particulars. I think the CPSU were involved. I don't think it happens much these days. I imagine HR departments are conscious now to break service before 4 years are reached.


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    #644
    doc22
    Registered Users Posts: 856 ✭✭✭doc22


    little mrs wrote: »
    Incremental Credit/Progression
    If you had previous service in the Civil/Public Service in the same or analogous grade or one grade above at the time of application, you may be entitled to Incremental Credit / Progression. This only applies to CO/EO grades.
    Temporary service is only applicable from 14th July 2003 onwards.
    In order to apply you must supply HR with a letter from your previous Department on headed paper detailing the following:
     Name
     PPSN
     Grade you were previously employed as
     Dates you worked
     Any unpaid leave
     Any work-sharing

    Hope this helps

    Were did you get this from


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    #645
    alanbyrne1982
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭alanbyrne1982


    Does anyone know where the OOM is at for Dublin??


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    #646
    Sweet Autumn
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭Sweet Autumn


    Emailed PAS a few days ago and they at 844 TCO Dublin.


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    #647
    bradley linemihler
    Registered Users Posts: 36 ✭bradley linemihler


    Does anyone have any idea what number they are at for the OOM Panel for cork?

    cheers


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    #648
    QuestionTime18
    Registered Users Posts: 27 ✭QuestionTime18


    Sweet Autumn wrote: »
    Emailed PAS a few days ago and they at 844 TCO Dublin.

    Do you mean they have interviewed 844 in Dublin? Or that they have placed 844 in jobs?


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    #649
    Sweet Autumn
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭Sweet Autumn


    Hi QuestionTime 18,

    PAS said that they are calling candidates to stage 2 interview as vacancies arise and to date they have called to OOM 844 for County Dublin so maybe that means that 844 have been interviewed or will be interviewed soon.


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    #650
    bob.thebuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭bob.thebuilder


    Has someone heard anything from HSE for TCO role? My wife had sent expression of interest around 23/03/2021 & hadn’t heard anything back yet. She was placed 1153 on OOM.


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    #651
    Connacht15
    Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭Connacht15


    Nigel Fairservice wrote: »
    Yes, you need 12 months of service to move to point 2. The service doesn't need to be unbroken though. If your previous service combined, for example, works out to be 14 months, you move up to the next point (12 months) on the scale and get 2 months knocked off reaching the following point. It's called incremental credit.

    You wouldn't be issued a new contract if you got credit for previous service. They'd just bump your pay.


    If a TCO comes in at grade 3, which seems to be the norm at what point does their increment kick in and is there an additional increment per year thereafter? And does your grade have any relation to your years of service?
    And if you previously did not claim an increment, can it be claimed retrospectively, once, you have left?

    Thanks in advance!


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    #652
    Connacht15
    Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭Connacht15


    Well any advice on the above?


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    #653
    piskins72
    Registered Users Posts: 383 ✭✭piskins72


    Connacht15 wrote: »
    If a TCO comes in at grade 3, which seems to be the norm at what point does their increment kick in and is there an additional increment per year thereafter? And does your grade have any relation to your years of service?
    And if you previously did not claim an increment, can it be claimed retrospectively, once, you have left?

    Thanks in advance!

    12 months after so if you start on the 1/6/21 you technically should move to point 2 of scale one 1/6/22 and so on.

    You don't claim it per say, you carry service record with you, for example if you did 3 months as a TCO in HSE and now you start in HSE again, you will be 3 months into the *year* so technically you should move to point 2 after 9 months,keep a record of your staff number and the payroll email addresses coz it's easier for chasing up copies of service I have found.

    No grade's are separate, if you want to progress up the grade's it's via interview process


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    #654
    piskins72
    Registered Users Posts: 383 ✭✭piskins72


    Connacht15 wrote: »
    Well any advice on the above?

    Grade 3 – Clerical officer/library assistant/branch librarian*
    24,602 – 26,218 – 26,618 – 27,425 – 28,604 – 29,786 – 30,968 – 31,826 – 32,799 – 33,926 – 34,726 – 35,845 – 36,969 – 39,086 – LSI 1 40,589

    This is the clerical officer scale for HSE/County councils, the civil service scale is slightly different.


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    #655
    Nigel Fairservice
    Registered Users, Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,177 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    Connacht15 wrote: »
    If a TCO comes in at grade 3, which seems to be the norm at what point does their increment kick in and is there an additional increment per year thereafter? And does your grade have any relation to your years of service?
    And if you previously did not claim an increment, can it be claimed retrospectively, once, you have left?

    Thanks in advance!

    I'm not really sure what you mean by Grade 3. The grades in the civil service are CO, EO, HEO, AP etc.


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    #656
    piskins72
    Registered Users Posts: 383 ✭✭piskins72


    Nigel Fairservice wrote: »
    I'm not really sure what you mean by Grade 3. The grades in the civil service are CO, EO, HEO, AP etc.


    In public sector it's slightly different Grade names than civil service, also goes by numbers as shown on the pay scale, clerical officer/grade 3, assistant staff officer/grade 4 , staff officer/Grade 5, senior staff officer/grade 6 etc


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    #657
    NomadicGray
    Registered Users Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭NomadicGray


    Just received word that I am no longer needed in the role I was called for 2 weeks ago. Anyone had experience with this? Hoping PAS will have me back on the panel very quickly


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    #658
    bleepbloop7
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭bleepbloop7


    NomadicGray wrote: »
    Just received word that I am no longer needed in the role I was called for 2 weeks ago. Anyone had experience with this? Hoping PAS will have me back on the panel very quickly

    Had they given you a set period of time for the position? (e.g. 8/10 weeks). Don't think I've ever heard of a TCO gig getting cancelled!


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    #659
    NomadicGray
    Registered Users Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭NomadicGray


    bleepbloop7 wrote: »
    Had they given you a set period of time for the position? (e.g. 8/10 weeks). Don't think I've ever heard of a TCO gig getting cancelled!


    They called 2 weeks back and gave the impression that it could take 8-12 weeks after vetting before I would start and it was going to be a 12 week contract.



    Hopefully I get another position soon and its a bit longer than 12 weeks, that'd be a grand silver lining


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    #660
    bradley linemihler
    Registered Users Posts: 36 ✭bradley linemihler


    Id say your still on the panel. mail them just to be sure. What part of the country was this for?


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    #661
    NomadicGray
    Registered Users Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭NomadicGray


    Yeah I got on to them as soon as I could, hopefully hear something before the weeks out.

    Im in Cork, would be in around the mid 50s on OOM


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