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Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

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  • #6182
    astrofool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,425 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Rebelbrowser wrote: »
    There are many pages dedicated to this issue on the weather forum on boards.ie every year!

    Yep, it's not really worth it to re-tread here, however when the government talk about summer and opening, they will be talking about the period when kids are out of school and college which is primarily July and August, these are also the primary vacation months.

    Personally, I'm not expecting much of a summer this year, but hope to be surprised (in late July and August :)).


  • #6183
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,406 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Can we move on from discussing the weather please folks? If you want to do that you can visit the Weather Forum linked below, cheers

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=374

    Moderator: Current Affairs/IMHO, Soccer, Pro Wrestling



  • #6184
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Useful thread and encouraging that the vaccines seem to be very effective against variants

    https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1389617547935420423


  • #6185
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,426 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Useful thread and encouraging that the vaccines seem to be very effective against variants

    https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1389617547935420423

    Try and show or tell that to Staines, Ryan, Killeen and co! They’d curl into the foetal position and cry


  • #6186
    IRISHSPORTSGUY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,276 ✭✭✭IRISHSPORTSGUY


    Don't expect much from CureVac in the short term
    https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1389603262987386882

    We'll remember Pfizer as the heros, but when we have time to reflect I think people will be grateful to AZ. Yes, their scale up in Europe was disappointing but still the 2nd most important by a long shot. Without them restrictions would be going on a lot longer.


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  • #6187
    eoinbn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »
    Don't expect much from CureVac in the short term
    https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1389603262987386882

    We'll remember Pfizer as the heros, but when we have time to reflect I think people will be grateful to AZ. Yes, their scale up in Europe was disappointing but still the 2nd most important by a long shot. Without them restrictions would be going on a lot longer.

    Curevac are using the US embargo as an excuse. Germany gave them hundreds of millions and they spent it on a new factory which won't be built until late 2022. If they had used that to ramp up production then they could have been making millions of vaccines per week by now.


  • #6188
    Pandiculation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭Pandiculation


    I think what I'll remember is that when push came to shove, the US was willing to just cut off supplies to friends and neighbours. I realise most of that began in the Trump era, but there's been absolutely zero effort to wind it back and now it looks like CureVac, which is a European product, will be slow to launch because of those same policies.

    Global efforts, yeah... indeed.

    If nothing else, it shows that Europe, Canada and others cannot really depend on the US and need to ensure they're entirely able to produce essential products like these entirely independently.

    You've US multinationals going around hoovering up smaller companies and then the whole thing seems to have been turned into a lack of global vision as soon as it suited.

    If anything came across in this to me, it's that the EU needs to stop naively assuming that countries have friends. It seems many only have interests. You can't really assume solidarity from places that clearly aren't open to that kind of thinking.

    Supply chains matter and it's a very clear demonstration of why that is.


  • #6189
    trellheim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭trellheim


    Last week a new high for vaccinations : 206,583

    Previous high was the previous week so 189602 up 18,000 or so long may it continue

    Also last Friday 29 april best day so far 44,935 beating previous high 42756


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  • #6190
    JTMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,576 ✭✭✭JTMan


    Washington DC are using free beer and no appointment necessary to get the "not sures" and "could not be bothered" out for a vaccine.

    https://twitter.com/MayorBowser/status/1389636383443197954


  • #6191
    Golfwidow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭Golfwidow


    I thought today that registration for vaccinations in Ireland was for 59 year olds. A family member who is 53, boasting that they registered on the HSE vaccination website this morning. Is this possible? Is this unfair on other 50+ people waiting to register in the correct order ... or does this have any negative impact at all on the system in place?


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  • #6192
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Golfwidow wrote: »
    I thought today that registration for vaccinations in Ireland was for 59 year olds. A family member who is 53, boasting that they registered on the HSE vaccination website this morning. Is this possible? Is this unfair on other 50+ people waiting to register in the correct order ... or does this have any negative impact at all on the system in place?
    Yes they appear to open it up for the entire age range and ask people to wait for their turn


  • #6193
    naughtysmurf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,317 ✭✭✭naughtysmurf


    Golfwidow wrote: »
    I thought today that registration for vaccinations in Ireland was for 59 year olds. A family member who is 53, boasting that they registered on the HSE vaccination website this morning. Is this possible? Is this unfair on other 50+ people waiting to register in the correct order ... or does this have any negative impact at all on the system in place?

    This was possible with the previous group too, HSE tweeted yesterday that it will make no difference as they will go by age anyway, they are asking people to register on certain days so the system doesn’t crash I believe


  • #6194
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Golfwidow wrote: »
    I thought today that registration for vaccinations in Ireland was for 59 year olds. A family member who is 53, boasting that they registered on the HSE vaccination website this morning. Is this possible? Is this unfair on other 50+ people waiting to register in the correct order ... or does this have any negative impact at all on the system in place?

    Yeah there's nothing to stop people registering. They ask for one age group at a time to stagger demand on the site.

    It's aged based rollout so they won't get called any quicker


  • #6195
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Golfwidow wrote: »
    I thought today that registration for vaccinations in Ireland was for 59 year olds. A family member who is 53, boasting that they registered on the HSE vaccination website this morning. Is this possible? Is this unfair on other 50+ people waiting to register in the correct order ... or does this have any negative impact at all on the system in place?

    It’s grand - it’s a registration. But they should not (geographical variations aside) be vaccinated ahead of 54 years olds but should be ahead of the 52 year olds. They will also be waiting longer between registration and vaccination.


  • #6196
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    JTMan wrote: »
    Washington DC are using free beer and no appointment necessary to get the "not sures" and "could not be bothered" out for a vaccine.

    https://twitter.com/MayorBowser/status/1389636383443197954

    If only they did that in Belfast. There would be queues up the M1.


  • #6197
    Ll31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Ll31


    JTMan wrote: »
    Washington DC are using free beer and no appointment necessary to get the "not sures" and "could not be bothered" out for a vaccine.

    https://twitter.com/MayorBowser/status/1389636383443197954

    New Jersey have similar, Get your 1st shot in may, get a free shot!


  • #6198
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    Just found this tweet below the one posted above about the variants. Some bigwig journalist /editor freaking people out about variants. Great to see people telling him to get real and stop the scaremongering. It's not about Ireland, but the UK, where they are doing very well.

    https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1389214988389212160


  • #6199
    naughtysmurf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,317 ✭✭✭naughtysmurf


    So what is the vaccine type available for the 50’s group, is it 100% AZ only or will some get BioNtech Pfizer, J&J or Moderna, are we waiting on any deliveries for this cohort or are we ready to go with enough vaccine landed & ready for distribution?


  • #6200
    emrys
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭emrys


    naughtysmurf wrote: »
    So what is the vaccine type available for the 50’s group, is it 100% AZ only or will some get BioNtech Pfizer, J&J or Moderna, are we waiting on any deliveries for this cohort or are we ready to go with enough vaccine landed & ready for distribution?

    the message is very much whatever is available although i guess most likely AZ first - we should hear soon enough over next couple of days from the 59,58,57 yr olds as they get appointment confirmations


  • #6201
    Pretzill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,756 ✭✭✭Pretzill


    I think it's all four available - I got Pfizier I'm 52 group 7 - I think in some areas groups 4&7 are being called by GP and age wise and otherwise healthy are been called to centres. You will be told which vaccine it is when given your appointment.

    You can register online at any age in the 50-59 category but you are seen according to age and in some cases (my OH is group 4) you may get a quicker appointment. He registered age wise but was called perhaps a week earlier than others his age. I assumed maybe the PPS number gives clues about cohort 4.


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  • #6202
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Donnelly to consult with NIAC regarding the HSEs prefered plan

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/donnelly-to-consult-with-niac-over-proposed-changes-in-covid-19-vaccine-plan-1.4555336?mode=amp


  • #6203
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    naughtysmurf wrote: »
    So what is the vaccine type available for the 50’s group, is it 100% AZ only or will some get BioNtech Pfizer, J&J or Moderna, are we waiting on any deliveries for this cohort or are we ready to go with enough vaccine landed & ready for distribution?

    Realistically for the 50s who register this week they aren't going to start for a few weeks yet. Wouldn't expect them to start to be given appointments until around mid May.

    There's plenty of 60-65 still to get through in the MVCs. When the bulk of the 60s are nearly done we'll probably see the 50s starting to get appointments for MVC


  • #6204
    Bit cynical
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Bit cynical


    JTMan wrote: »
    Washington DC are using free beer and no appointment necessary to get the "not sures" and "could not be bothered" out for a vaccine.

    https://twitter.com/MayorBowser/status/1389636383443197954
    We're a long way from needing to do that as we're at a much earlier stage in vaccinations and the pace is slower.


  • #6205
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Donnelly to consult with NIAC regarding the HSEs prefered plan

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/donnelly-to-consult-with-niac-over-proposed-changes-in-covid-19-vaccine-plan-1.4555336?mode=amp
    Don't blame Donnelly for that. NIAC should either recommend it for U50s or not at all.


  • #6206
    km79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,435 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Stheno wrote: »
    Yes they appear to open it up for the entire age range and ask people to wait for their turn

    I was wondering about that last night when I heard . Is there anything to stop anyone of any age registering then! Nothing would suprise me with the HSE involved


  • #6207
    revelman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭revelman


    Could we not just do what the Germans are doing with AZ? Anyone under 50 can have AZ/J&J as long as they give informed consent, perhaps having spoken to a medical professional first (e.g. GP or pharmacist). I’m sure they would be plenty of people willing to get vaccinated in this way.


  • #6208
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Don't blame Donnelly for that. NIAC should either recommend it for U50s or not at all.

    Whole thing is an awful mess


  • #6209
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Stheno wrote: »
    Whole thing is an awful mess
    It's ridiculous. It's either safe or not, there can't be an in between


  • #6210
    munchkin_utd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    It's ridiculous. It's either safe or not, there can't be an in between

    there is, its called a curve


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  • #6211
    Russman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭Russman


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    It's ridiculous. It's either safe or not, there can't be an in between

    It’s ridiculous alright, but of course there can be an in between, depending on the circumstances a country is in. I think it was Glynn said it in one of his last pressers before Tony came back, that were we in a situation like we were back in January, there wouldn’t be a restriction on AZ, but because we’re in a much better place, we can afford to be cautious, or words to that effect.


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