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fibre to the home

  • 30-04-2021 10:20AM
    #1
    obi604
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,331 ✭✭✭


    hi,


    currently my internet speeds are roughty 50 down / 20 up



    I believe I am in an area with fibre to the home, what is best site to check this?

    This one is it: https://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/


    If I am, what is the best way to get this, I am currently with Sky, do I call them and say I want to have fibre to the home done or do I have to call the actual underlying provider etc


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  • #2
    Bummer1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭Bummer1234


    obi604 wrote: »
    hi,


    currently my internet speeds are roughty 50 down / 20 up



    I believe I am in an area with fibre to the home, what is best site to check this?

    This one is it: https://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/


    If I am, what is the best way to get this, I am currently with Sky, do I call them and say I want to have fibre to the home done or do I have to call the actual underlying provider etc

    You would be best to stick your Eircode into the NBI website and see if its available at your address,

    Then if it is you can go to anyone of these providers

    50 Down and 20 up still ain't bad to some people on boards :D


  • #3
    obi604
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,331 ✭✭✭obi604


    Bummer1234 wrote: »
    You would be best to stick your Eircode into the NBI website and see if its available at your address,

    Then if it is you can go to anyone of these providers

    50 Down and 20 up still ain't bad to some people on boards :D


    Thanks, says this: "Your premises is not included in the intervention area of the National Broadband Plan."

    I think this means I cant get it.

    50/20 is grand , but then I hear of the neighbors getting speeds of 120.......


  • #4
    obi604
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,331 ✭✭✭obi604


    rang sky and they say I can get fiber to the home, they mentioned 500 meg download
    said there will be a 50 euro install fee for this

    told them id think about it

    is this 50 euro a gimmick or do people normally have to pay this?


  • #5
    Bummer1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭Bummer1234


    obi604 wrote: »
    Thanks, says this: "Your premises is not included in the intervention area of the National Broadband Plan."

    I think this means I cant get it.
    That means your covered and can get FTTH and don't have to wait on the NBI project in your area.
    obi604 wrote: »
    is this 50 euro a gimmick or do people normally have to pay this?

    People normally pay it yea but if you do the maths and compare it to say vodafone and how long the contract is for, It might work out cheaper than other companies. Just looking at vodafone there its free one of cost compared to sky.


  • #6
    joe123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭joe123


    Bummer1234 wrote: »
    That means your covered and can get FTTH and don't have to wait on the NBI project in your area.



    People normally pay it yea but if you do the maths and compare it to say vodafone and how long the contract is for, It might work out cheaper than other companies. Just looking at vodafone there its free one of cost compared to sky.

    Thats slightly incorrect.Your only not in the Intervention area once you can get speeds of 30+

    It doesnt mean you are guaranteed FTTH, you could just be close enough for good speeds with FTTC. You already mentioned you can get 50 down so that straight away rules you out of being in the IA.

    Go here and you will know for sure https://www.airwire.ie/index.php/avail/main/


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  • #7
    obi604
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,331 ✭✭✭obi604


    joe123 wrote: »
    Thats slightly incorrect.Your only not in the Intervention area once you can get speeds of 30+

    It doesnt mean you are guaranteed FTTH, you could just be close enough for good speeds with FTTC. You already mentioned you can get 50 down so that straight away rules you out of being in the IA.

    Go here and you will know for sure https://www.airwire.ie/index.php/avail/main/


    nice one.

    thank you, that is a better website and more clear, either available or not available, the whole "your premises is not included in the intervention area of the National Broadband Plan" is not too clear to the average punter





    but yes, fibre to the home is available when I put in my eirciode on the above website


  • #8
    obi604
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,331 ✭✭✭obi604


    obi604 wrote: »
    rang sky and they say I can get fiber to the home, they mentioned 500 meg download
    said there will be a 50 euro install fee for this

    told them id think about it

    is this 50 euro a gimmick or do people normally have to pay this?

    Sky said they would install fibre to the home AND sky Q - all for 50 Euro.

    Knock 10 Euro off the broadband monthly fee. 60 to 50.

    Not too bad I guess.

    They told me the deal will be gone again first of all by end of phone call, then they changed it to end of next week.......usual rubbish.


  • #9
    rardagh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭rardagh


    I'm a bit biased but I'd recommend looking at the Vodafone 500Mbps FTTH offer with TV.

    €45 per month for a 12 month contract, no setup:

    https://n.vodafone.ie/shop/broadband.html


  • #10
    XsApollo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭XsApollo


    Vodafone’s Router is rubbish.
    If you want coverage around the house you will be investing in WiFi extenders.


  • #11
    obi604
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,331 ✭✭✭obi604


    obi604 wrote: »
    Sky said they would install fibre to the home AND sky Q - all for 50 Euro.

    Knock 10 Euro off the broadband monthly fee. 60 to 50.

    Not too bad I guess.

    They told me the deal will be gone again first of all by end of phone call, then they changed it to end of next week.......usual rubbish.

    All things considered, this isn’t a bad deal though, what do ye think?


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  • #12
    Mikiek14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭Mikiek14


    obi604 wrote: »
    All things considered, this isn’t a bad deal though, what do ye think?
    Its the same deal really on their website. They also have the install fee for both tv and broadband so that's 50 straight away.Pure telecom are good if ya get the fritzbox. Ya can get the full gig for only 40 a month. If ya dont need the tv i would go with pure.


  • #13
    obi604
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,331 ✭✭✭obi604


    Mikiek14 wrote: »
    Its the same deal really on their website. They also have the install fee for both tv and broadband so that's 50 straight away.Pure telecom are good if ya get the fritzbox. Ya can get the full gig for only 40 a month. If ya dont need the tv i would go with pure.


    Thanks for input. So nothing special if a deal then.
    Found off topic a bit, but is there anything special about Sky Q.


  • #14
    Mikiek14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭Mikiek14


    obi604 wrote: »
    Thanks for input. So nothing special if a deal then.
    Found off topic a bit, but is there anything special about Sky Q.
    Storage and uhd sports and boxsets. Netfilx and the likes are also built in.

    Thats all really


  • #15
    obi604
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,331 ✭✭✭obi604


    Mikiek14 wrote: »
    Its the same deal really on their website. They also have the install fee for both tv and broadband so that's 50 straight away.Pure telecom are good if ya get the fritzbox. Ya can get the full gig for only 40 a month. If ya dont need the tv i would go with pure.


    Is the Fritz box good? Presume this is the router supplier by Pure


  • #16
    Mikiek14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭Mikiek14


    obi604 wrote: »
    Is the Fritz box good? Presume this is the router supplier by Pure

    Well theres been people saying that they received the f2000 (eir) which is a heap of ****e. However they were able to switch to fritzbox which is by far the best router that isp provides in Ireland.im actually still with Vodafone myself but i plan to switch once contract is up. The gigabox is so bad that i needed to buy meshes to actually get any decent speeds.


  • #17
    obi604
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,331 ✭✭✭obi604


    Mikiek14 wrote: »
    Well theres been people saying that they received the f2000 (eir) which is a heap of ****e. However they were able to switch to fritzbox which is by far the best router that isp provides in Ireland.im actually still with Vodafone myself but i plan to switch once contract is up. The gigabox is so bad that i needed to buy meshes to actually get any decent speeds.


    So if I was to go with Pure telecom I need to insist on this fritzbox


  • #18
    Mikiek14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭Mikiek14


    obi604 wrote: »
    So if I was to go with Pure telecom I need to insist on this fritzbox

    Well you would probably get it anyway but theres no harm in mentioning it.

    What FTTH provider you go to doesn’t generally matter it comes down to price and router.( and sometimes isp like Vodafone can be over subscribed at times but thats rare
    and I hadn’t any problems with them)


  • #19
    obi604
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,331 ✭✭✭obi604


    Mikiek14 wrote: »
    Well you would probably get it anyway but theres no harm in mentioning it.

    What FTTH provider you go to doesn’t generally matter it comes down to price and router.( and sometimes isp like Vodafone can be over subscribed at times but thats rare
    and I hadn’t any problems with them)


    So sounds like pure would have best router?
    Are digiweb any good?

    What would be the top 3 or 4


  • #20
    alan4cult
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭alan4cult


    Mikiek14 wrote: »
    Well you would probably get it anyway but theres no harm in mentioning it.

    What FTTH provider you go to doesn’t generally matter it comes down to price and router.( and sometimes isp like Vodafone can be over subscribed at times but thats rare
    and I hadn’t any problems with them)

    Provider absolutely matters, it's not only the router but the peering to the provider's network, more customers more traffic generally. Certain providers are having slowdowns at evening time due to contention in the backhaul.


  • #21
    obi604
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,331 ✭✭✭obi604


    alan4cult wrote: »
    Provider absolutely matters, it's not only the router but the peering to the provider's network, more customers more traffic generally. Certain providers are having slowdowns at evening time due to contention in the backhaul.

    Which providers would generally not have slowdowns?


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  • #22
    mosstin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭mosstin


    Had Vodafone's 500mb fibre broadband installed last week and delighted with the speeds throughout the house thus far. €30 p/m and no installation fee.


  • #23
    obi604
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,331 ✭✭✭obi604


    So high level, below are the contenders
    Which of these would offer the best modem and speed quality and just general service?

    Vodafone 500
    30, then 65
    0 install

    Pure 500
    35, then 55
    0 install

    eir 500
    40, then 75
    0 install

    digiweb 500
    30 for first 3 months then 55 for next 9 and then 60
    100 install

    Sky 500
    35, then 60
    50 install


  • #24
    alec76
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭alec76


    I would go with Eir , their router F3000 quite decent ( huge improvement to F2000)and allow you to add their Mesh unit for €99 if you have a big house and one router won't do
    https://eir-store.ie/collections/connected-living/products/smartwifi?variant=39416964284606


  • #25
    Mikiek14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭Mikiek14


    alec76 wrote: »
    I would go with Eir , their router F3000 quite decent ( huge improvement to F2000)and allow you to add their Mesh unit for €99 if you have a big house and one router won't do
    https://eir-store.ie/collections/connected-living/products/smartwifi?variant=39416964284606

    Has anyone here actually got this mesh? I know its new out.


  • #26
    alec76
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭alec76


    It is very interesting system , WiFi 6 if Eir telling the truth.
    made by Sagecom , not by Huawei as F2000 .
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058181270

    I was testing router F3000 ( Sagecom too ) , decent WiFi range and speed , not worse than Ftitzbox's. Definitely hitting 550-580 Mbps over WiFi.


  • #27
    Mikiek14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭Mikiek14


    alec76 wrote: »
    I would go with Eir , their router F3000 quite decent ( huge improvement to F2000)and allow you to add their Mesh unit for €99 if you have a big house and one router won't do
    https://eir-store.ie/collections/connected-living/products/smartwifi?variant=39416964284606

    Eir’s contract is 24 months which is a bit of a sting. I would go with either pure telecom or digiweb. They are good for customer service and dont go down often like Vodafone tends to.


  • #28
    babelfish1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭babelfish1990


    obi604 wrote: »
    So high level, below are the contenders
    Which of these would offer the best modem and speed quality and just general service?

    Vodafone 500
    30, then 65
    0 install

    Pure 500
    35, then 55
    0 install

    eir 500
    40, then 75
    0 install

    digiweb 500
    30 for first 3 months then 55 for next 9 and then 60
    100 install

    Sky 500
    35, then 60
    50 install

    While it is great to have the superior reliability of FTTH access, and very nice to have the option of Gigabit speeds, do you actually have an application that demands 500Mbps from the Internet? Netflix UHD/4K requires only 25Mbps - so you could run 6 x 4K TVs in parallel (with 4K content), on a 150Mbps connection! In my view, there is far too much hype about maximum speed, and most users will find 150Mbps more than adequate for the foreseeable future. Nice to know that the fibre is there, for a soft-upgrade when the time comes if you need extra speed. It is useful to have Gigabit speeds within your home network, for file transfers, but that doesn't mean you have to pay for the extra bandwidth to the Internet.

    Far more important to pick an ISP that is reliable, has good peering, low latency, local caching in their data-centres, and doesn't have congestion at busy times. Also worth considering if you can save anything by bundling your mobile handsets and TV with your broadband. I have found Eir totally reliable, and have never seen any congestion from them. I wouldn't bother with their 500Mbps deal, unless you need it - 150Mbps at €29.99pm is hard to beat, and you can add in mobiles for €9.99pm each or TV for €9.99 to make up a bundle. The 150Mbps deal only goes to €60 after 12 months, and if you call them up, you can usually negotiate a discount when you renew (although probably not quite matching the starter offer).


  • #29
    obi604
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,331 ✭✭✭obi604


    babelfish1990 wrote: »
    While it is great to have the superior reliability of FTTH access, and very nice to have the option of Gigabit speeds, do you actually have an application that demands 500Mbps from the Internet? Netflix UHD/4K requires only 25Mbps - so you could run 6 x 4K TVs in parallel (with 4K content), on a 150Mbps connection! In my view, there is far too much hype about maximum speed, and most users will find 150Mbps more than adequate for the foreseeable future. Nice to know that the fibre is there, for a soft-upgrade when the time comes if you need extra speed. It is useful to have Gigabit speeds within your home network, for file transfers, but that doesn't mean you have to pay for the extra bandwidth to the Internet.

    Far more important to pick an ISP that is reliable, has good peering, low latency, local caching in their data-centres, and doesn't have congestion at busy times. Also worth considering if you can save anything by bundling your mobile handsets and TV with your broadband. I have found Eir totally reliable, and have never seen any congestion from them. I wouldn't bother with their 500Mbps deal, unless you need it - 150Mbps at €29.99pm is hard to beat, and you can add in mobiles for €9.99pm each or TV for €9.99 to make up a bundle. The 150Mbps deal only goes to €60 after 12 months, and if you call them up, you can usually negotiate a discount when you renew (although probably not quite matching the starter offer).


    I work from home all day and kids stream etc etc and nice just to have the speed, currently paying 47.50 for my copper broadband

    So going for a new provider and faster speed will be cheaper than this, so may as well I guess :)


    with the Eir 150 mb, I presume they still need to install the fibre to the home and get the ONT termination point installed

    Who would you recommend on the bold above? Seems like you are happy with Eir anyway


  • #30
    CoBo55
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,041 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Mikiek14 wrote: »
    Eir’s contract is 24 months which is a bit of a sting. I would go with either pure telecom or digiweb. They are good for customer service and dont go down often like Vodafone tends to.

    It's the same price for the 24 months which is a good deal.


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  • #31
    FileNotFound
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭FileNotFound


    obi604 wrote: »
    Thanks, says this: "Your premises is not included in the intervention area of the National Broadband Plan."

    I think this means I cant get it.

    50/20 is grand , but then I hear of the neighbors getting speeds of 120.......


    Same message fro me. Other options may be Virgin 1GB if you are really fussed.

    I had sky and was getting similar speeds to yourself, had to get them out to do some work and the guy who called noted the old cable coming from pole to the house - he replaced it and i now get 87/20 which makes a decent difference and to be honest is enough for me.

    I stream a lot, WFH etc, and have always found that 80mb down and 20mb up is enough for just about anything (4k movies/IPTV etc). Even when 10 devices are active and working.


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