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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Elmo wrote: »
    No Change. Period! So what would you do?

    I mean this idea of do nothing isn't working.

    Neither would disposing of RTÉ 2!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,198 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I'd have no doubt that she's bought (or leased) herself a decent motor... perhaps a BMW or Merc in the €60k-€90k bracket...

    So she'd own that car now, and the €25k a year she's still getting goes in her pocket... (have no doubt she'd also be on fuel/mileage allowance).


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Elmo wrote: »
    RTÉ themselves have stated that they are moving all major sporting events to RTÉ ONE.

    When did they state that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    When did they state that?

    When they stated they were

    1. Dropping all Digital Radio Stations
    2. Dropping DAN
    3. Selling the RTÉ Guide


    Suppose 1 out of 4 isn't too bad.

    https://about.rte.ie/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/RT%C3%89-2024-Web.pdf

    Page 10 Evolve

    "We will move RTÉ's biggest sporitng moments to RTÉ One"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭jetfiremuck


    Is Lotto Ryan still on the RTE tit? When they refuse to publish the FULL salary list and benefits for all employees how is anyone able to make a fair and honest assessment of the current set up. Dee Forbes is like a broken record.

    So reruns of Only fools and horses from 72 before the 1 oclock news on RTE 1........flagship channel (not) is creating value.......oh right...laziness.

    Reeling in the years where college or drama schools could piece together the same programme has a great viewership...what does that tell you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Neither would disposing of RTÉ 2!

    Again your reasoning and/or an alternative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    garrettod wrote: »
    This proved to be an interesting read...

    https://www.thejournal.ie/rte-dail-committee-5421151-Apr2021/?mc_cid=28691257ab&mc_eid=a6c0075496

    Dee ducking and diving, when asked what the initial payment to Revenue was - my ar$e she didn't know roughly how much had to be paid, in the initial payment.

    what is that payment for? catching up with pension contributions for people who should have been employed etc?


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Elmo wrote: »
    Again your reasoning and/or an alternative.

    Reasoning: it would be unfair on terrestrial viewers who don't have the UK channels or satellite dishes or Netflix or Amazon Prime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo



    Reasoning: it would be unfair on terrestrial viewers who don't have the UK channels or satellite dishes or Netflix or Amazon Prime.

    Again if that is the only reason for RTÉ2 it should be sold.

    What does it provide. It has no original programming, it has no news or current affairs show, it realizes heavily on Sport, something in their own Strategy RTÉ seem don't seem to understand.

    It is not a good enough reason anymore. The channel is nothing more than VIRGIN MEDIA FOUR and at best VIRGIN MEDIA ONE.

    It is failing even that audience.

    Now reform it or get rid. But give me a hypothetical plan... after all that all RTÉ seem to have.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Elmo wrote: »
    Again if that is the only reason for RTÉ2 it should be sold.

    What does it provide. It has no original programming, it has no news or current affairs show, it realizes heavily on Sport, something in their own Strategy RTÉ seem don't seem to understand.

    It is not a good enough reason anymore. The channel is nothing more than VIRGIN MEDIA FOUR and at best VIRGIN MEDIA ONE.

    It is failing even that audience.

    Now reform it or get rid. But give me a hypothetical plan... after all that all RTÉ seem to have.

    The chances of that happening are very slim.

    By the way, RTÉ has an equivalent of Newsround - News2day.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    The chances of that happening are very slim.

    By the way, RTÉ has an equivalent of Newsround - News2day.

    Which moved to the News channel this week because of emm sport! And will take a break during the summer months.

    Other than the Government signing off on the sale or closure of RTÉ2 why would the chances of the channel being sold be so slim?

    I heard Communicorp just sold all their Irish radio stations to Bauer!


  • Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    garrettod wrote: »
    This proved to be an interesting read...

    https://www.thejournal.ie/rte-dail-committee-5421151-Apr2021/?mc_cid=28691257ab&mc_eid=a6c0075496

    Dee ducking and diving, when asked what the initial payment to Revenue was - my ar$e she didn't know roughly how much had to be paid, in the initial payment.

    Dee always very quick to point out exactly how much funding is being missed out on by non-payment of the licence fee but her financial controller can't confirm the value of an extraordinary payment made to Revenue.

    "Sorry, I just don’t have it to hand with me today,” she said, which Carthy described as “most unfortunate”.

    How are they allowed walk out of a committee hearing like that without giving answers to straightforward questions? As if she couldn't log in to her accounting system and see the amount, or email a colleague to get the number.

    RTE will have some Employers PRSI bill if Revenue clamp down on the contractor nonsense for people who are clearly employees of RTE. 11.05% on top of the rates paid to the contractors, so €55k owed for each year Tubridy has been paid €500,000. That'll add up quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,483 ✭✭✭garrettod


    Elmo wrote: »
    Biggest waste has always been their washington correspondent. They always seem to be missing. I haven't seen him report much on the floyd george case, instead it's reported from Dublin.. .

    Go easy on the poor fella, sure he's been very busy writing his book!

    Thanks,

    G.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    garrettod wrote: »
    Go easy on the poor fella, sure he's been very busy writing his book!

    Must add it to my collection

    Mark Little
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Turn-Left-Greenland-Search-America/dp/1902602870
    Carole Coleman
    https://www.amazon.com/Alleluia-America-Irish-Journalist-Country/dp/190414876X
    Richard Downes (at least it wasn't about his time in America on the Licence Fee, he was in Iraq)
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Richard-Downes/e/B001K7NIGU?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1619646929&sr=8-1
    Catriona Perry
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/America-Tales-Trump-Country/dp/0717179532

    Must come as part of the package.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,481 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Some of those books are now bargain bin prices.

    I wonder how many they actually sell?


    And as they are written while the author is working as an RTE employee, about their time on RTE duty, shouldn't the books be marketed by RTE so they can take some return from sales?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,483 ✭✭✭garrettod


    NIMAN wrote: »
    ... And as they are written while the author is working as an RTE employee, about their time on RTE duty, shouldn't the books be marketed by RTE so they can take some return from sales?

    While I get where you're coming from, do you not think that RTE is involved in enough unnecessary sh1te, without adding to its list of loss making ideas? :D

    I bet you they used RTE funded equipment and resources to write their books though - computers, office / residential space etc.

    Thanks,

    G.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,828 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Some of those books are now bargain bin prices.

    I wonder how many they actually sell?


    And as they are written while the author is working as an RTE employee, about their time on RTE duty, shouldn't the books be marketed by RTE so they can take some return from sales?

    I remember Gerry Ryan had some serious payment upfront, something like 100 K for his memoirs.

    The book sold poorly, and the majority were pulped.

    Tho tbh, can't blame them-he kept much of his secrets off of the page.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    I remember Gerry Ryan had some serious payment upfront, something like 100 K for his memoirs.

    The book sold poorly, and the majority were pulped.

    Tho tbh, can't blame them-he kept much of his secrets off of the page.

    There's a great whiff of arrogance of stuff like this. There's very, very few radio presenters in the globe that I'd have any interest in reading about. It's not like there's a big market for the biographies of people as such.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,402 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    TomTomTim wrote: »
    There's a great whiff of arrogance of stuff like this. There's very, very few radio presenters in the globe that I'd have any interest in reading about. It's not like there's a big market for the biographies of people as such.

    It's really not something to worry about in the context of the future of RTE.

    The publisher takes the punt and nobody has to buy the book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,828 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    TomTomTim wrote: »
    There's a great whiff of arrogance of stuff like this. There's very, very few radio presenters in the globe that I'd have any interest in reading about. It's not like there's a big market for the biographies of people as such.

    I'd be the same, at least with regards to IRish presenters. We know their history, we know their private lives (for the most part-eh, Gerry?) and there's not much that you couldn't compress into a one off documentary.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    I'd be the same, at least with regards to IRish presenters. We know their history, we know their private lives (for the most part-eh, Gerry?) and there's not much that you couldn't compress into a one off documentary.

    Why do that we you can have a two part one off documentry :D


    Just don't mention the drugs or drinking and remember he was larger than life


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,582 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Whenever Joe Duffy is writing a book, he gets his Liveline listeners to do his research for him and he uses what they tell him over the airwaves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭jetfiremuck


    skimpydoo wrote: »
    Whenever Joe Duffy is writing a book, he gets his Liveline listeners to do his research for him and he uses what they tell him over the airwaves.

    And the fawning review of Catrina Perry book........honour among thieves if you will


  • Posts: 21,290 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    skimpydoo wrote: »
    Whenever Joe Duffy is writing a book, he gets his Liveline listeners to do his research for him and he uses what they tell him over the airwaves.

    I remember when he was on de Chiselers of de Risin, and I was working in the libraries and encouraged by management to hand out leaflets he had given to encourage readers to contact him with material for the book. For some reason at the time the staff were under the impression that some proceeds were going to a children's hospital and we found ourselves saying "isn't he very good all the same to be doing this worthy thing".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,590 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    I remember when he was on de Chiselers of de Risin, and I was working in the libraries and encouraged by management to hand out leaflets he had given to encourage readers to contact him with material for the book. For some reason at the time the staff were under the impression that some proceeds were going to a children's hospital and we found ourselves saying "isn't he very good all the same to be doing this worthy thing".

    You misheard - what they meant was paying for his medical insurance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    They had to use Virgin Media Studio for Home Advantage because RTÉ studios were in use.

    Really? I would love to know the Home Advantage schedule and RTÉ studio's schedule.

    RTÉ have only one live show from RTÉ's Dublin Studios and that's the Lunch Time news and there are other studios.

    TODAY finishes up on May 28th.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,851 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    I remember Gerry Ryan had some serious payment upfront, something like 100 K for his memoirs.

    The book sold poorly, and the majority were pulped.

    Tho tbh, can't blame them-he kept much of his secrets off of the page.

    Some of the bits I heard serialised were hilarious, peak Celtic tiger peak Ryan :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    So with the news of Noel Clarke .... (Google)

    Why are we being so quiet on you know who?

    I hear Brian Dowling might be getting a breakfast show on 2FM.... though that's just speculation :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,828 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Elmo wrote: »
    So with the news of Noel Clarke .... (Google)

    Why are we being so quiet on you know who?

    I hear Brian Dowling might be getting a breakfast show on 2FM.... though that's just speculation :D

    Nobody wants to report on it without solid facts-even tho it's pretty open.

    That said, he's now got a cameo account-claims its for charity.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Nobody wants to report on it without solid facts-even tho it's pretty open.

    That said, he's now got a cameo account-claims its for charity.

    I don't know who you could be talking about but ..... that cameo account was there prior to the accusations .... though it looks like the person that you are talking about did upload a happy birthday video recently.

    Solid facts .... has anyone in the media gone to ask if there is anyone willing to come forward... 2 months on few Journos are willing to ask any question to seek out anybody that might prove it one way or another.

    Anyway I've only heard that your man from that reality show and the other guy from another reality show might get to co-host a radio breakfast show.

    Wonder how much they'll get paid!


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