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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,828 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Bloody hell... RTE didn't even show the weather after the 6:00 news.

    Don't they know the IRish are OBSESSED with the weather? Like, seriously... you delay EVERY other program and show the damn weather.

    Idiots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    They can't - because Six-One must be on RTÉ 1 at a minute past 6. Period! Don't pretend otherwise.

    Well then they need to have a full time day time show and they need to have a full hour in July and August for Six-One.

    There is absolutely no need for RTÉ2 when RTÉ have the NEWS channel.
    Why leave terrestrial-only viewers who don't have overspill of UK terrestrial TV with even less choice than they already have?

    Many of those viewers can't afford subscription TV (Sky, Netflix etc) or, even if they could, they either can't get access to good-quality broadband or they can't have satellite dishes because due to either landlords' objection or the blocking of the signal by trees that are protected by preservation orders (an issue that was mentioned in the Broadcasting forum of this website years ago).

    Those people have been completely and utterly failed by RTÉ, and they always were. RTÉ2 is about as much choice as Virgin Media TWO or THREE.

    There share of the audience in March was just 5.21%. and this is with a royal interview, Champions League and Irish Qualifiers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 79 ✭✭6o9fv7jpreb180


    Watching Prime Time and wondering what is Miriam O Callaghan getting paid for??

    Introduces show. ****s off for 40 minutes.. asks a guest 2 prepared questions. End of show..

    Easy way for Dee to save 320k right there
    Get rid of Lottie Ryan telling us about the Kardashians and inhaling as loud as she can into the microphone as well, and might get close to saving 500k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,828 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Watching Prime Time and wondering what is Miriam O Callaghan getting paid for??

    Introduces show. ****s off for 40 minutes.. asks a guest 2 prepared questions. End of show..

    Easy way for Dee to save 320k right there
    Get rid of Lottie Ryan telling us about the Kardashians and inhaling as loud as she can into the microphone as well, and might get close to saving 500k.

    Lottie's expecting a sprog atm, so if Dee fired her, she'd have to pay out a massive 'unfair dismissal' payout.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Gunmonkey


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    What she's saying is that 15% who are liable (i.e. they own a TV) don't pay. The other 13% is a separate group who aren't liable as they don't have a TV in the first place. Now whether that adds up to €50m is another story.

    It adds up because RTE overspent their budget by €50m and so that must now be how much the unpaid licenses amounts to.

    I mean...its either that or RTE overspend on ridiculous non-runner shows and hosts and have a serious problem of wages far oustripping the value in work returned throughout the whole organisation....

    Hahah...so *scoff* which of those you think is the most likely reason :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭Nerdlingr


    Fair City was costing nearly 11m a year to run back in 2017 and it's probably costing the same if not more now.
    11m f*cking million a year!! For that sh*te?!
    And then they spent 2.5m for a set upgrade a few years back as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,483 ✭✭✭garrettod


    Selling RTÉ 2 is not an option because nobody would be willing to buy it. Besides, moving afternoon sporting events that may run into extra time onto RTÉ 1 would be untenable because there would be an outcry if Six-One was displaced.

    Who says that no one would buy RTE 2?

    Take a look at what previous TV channels have been sold for - UTV, TV3 etc.

    Likewise for radio stations - look up the sale of the likes of FM104, Today FM, Q102 etc etc.

    Licenced broadcasters are a commodity, they don't come up for sale very often, but when they do, there's always a buyer for anything with decent market share, and a licence.

    Thanks,

    G.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,482 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN



    And,

    "...a further 170 RTE staff members earned between €80,000 and €100,000".


    And don't forget, this is RTE Employees, not contractors. So most of the big hitters aren't included in these figures.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Nerdlingr wrote: »
    Fair City was costing nearly 11m a year to run back in 2017 and it's probably costing the same if not more now.
    11m f*cking million a year!! For that sh*te?!
    And then they spent 2.5m for a set upgrade a few years back as well.

    A soap opera is a staple of any national public-service broadcaster.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Elmo wrote: »
    Well then they need to have a full time day time show and they need to have a full hour in July and August for Six-One.

    There is absolutely no need for RTÉ2 when RTÉ have the NEWS channel.



    Those people have been completely and utterly failed by RTÉ, and they always were. RTÉ2 is about as much choice as Virgin Media TWO or THREE.

    There share of the audience in March was just 5.21%. and this is with a royal interview, Champions League and Irish Qualifiers.

    Then Six-One wouldn't get as many viewers as it does in its usual place. After all, the two main BBC TV channels still have simulcasts of the BBC News Channel when there are serious breaking news events.

    If Six-One was displaced from its usual slot on RTÉ 1, there'd be an outcry. Period!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,019 ✭✭✭glenfieldman


    A soap opera is a staple of any national public-service broadcaster.

    So does that mean the nations soap opera need over 30 script writers ?

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/like-acting-writing-for-a-soap-is-a-team-sport-1.176013


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,590 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    So does that mean the nations soap opera need over 30 script writers ?

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/like-acting-writing-for-a-soap-is-a-team-sport-1.176013

    More surprising might be the fact they have script writers!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    A soap opera is a staple of any national public-service broadcaster.

    RTE is our National soap opera, and it is the longest ongoing saga in TV history. They make everything about them rather than acting like a National Broadcaster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Then Six-One wouldn't get as many viewers as it does in its usual place. After all, the two main BBC TV channels still have simulcasts of the BBC News Channel when there are serious breaking news events.

    If Six-One was displaced from its usual slot on RTÉ 1, there'd be an outcry. Period!

    Don't compare RTÉ to the BBC, UK is a much much bigger country.

    There should be outcry. PERIOD!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    A soap opera is a staple of any national public-service broadcaster.

    Only really in England. BBC didn't really get into soap until the 1970s (not that we should compare RTÉ to BBC), ABC in Oz I think possibly left it to the commercials but then ABC have always been under attack there, while in NZ I think soap there really didn't happen until the 1980s (But I could be way off on that).

    Soap is not really a staple, of any channel. I read an article about how when C4 axed Brookside it was pretty much the end for C5's Family Affairs.

    What we should think about is the amount RTÉ spend on Indpendent drama. In 2019 it was €3.2m and that included The Tommy Teirnan Show and a one off stand up comedy show from Galway. TTTS possible costs around €100,000 per episode meaning RTÉ may spend under €3m on drama and Scripted comedy!

    In the words of the DG.... That's just 1% of RTÉ total budget .... they spend the rest on .......................................... "other things"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭tallaghtfornia


    How in the name of God can they justify these salaries in RTE
    I have not watched 1 hour of there programing this year and last year the only thing we watched was the toy show.

    I don't know anyone in my circle of friends or work mates with the exception of sport watches live TV anymore. Everyone knows more about YouTubers than RTE 'Stars'

    RTE is becoming more irrelevant by the day and the cracks are showing they should be told to downsize, sell the land in Montrose and move somewhere to the midlands to a smaller premises and start from scratch. But sadly I can never see this happen due to the high political connections that all the board members have and they will continue the stealth tax of €160 to working class people in some shape or form.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    What's very clear in all of this is that RTE think we need them, in reality though they need us.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭Nerdlingr


    A soap opera is a staple of any national public-service broadcaster.

    Not for 11m a year its not, and especially when the quality of output is absymal and your company is going down the swanny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Nerdlingr wrote: »
    Not for 11m a year its not, and especially when the quality of output is absymal and your company is going down the swanny.


    TBH its more than 11m now, though I am not sure how RTÉ link up the own AR with their indpendent production units IPU.

    According to RTÉ's AR 22m is spent on Drama/Scripted Comedy
    According to RTÉ's IPU AR they spent just 3.2m on the above but it also included Tommy Tiernan and some non-scripted programming

    That leaves Fair city with ..... :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    How much do the actors on fair city get paid?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    JimmyVik wrote: »
    How much do the actors on fair city get paid?

    My issue with talk wages/salaries is that I think many are on low wages or should be asking for rises.

    What kind of wage would you expect to be on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    Elmo wrote: »
    My issue with talk wages/salaries is that I think many are on low wages or should be asking for rises.

    What kind of wage would you expect to be on?


    Was just asking because i am a better actor than the stars of fair city and might go for a job there if it pays enough :)


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    So does that mean the nations soap opera need over 30 script writers ?

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/like-acting-writing-for-a-soap-is-a-team-sport-1.176013

    That article was published 22 years ago! Why do you think it would be reflective of the number of writers involved now?


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Elmo wrote: »
    Don't compare RTÉ to the BBC, UK is a much much bigger country.

    There should be outcry. PERIOD!

    Six-One is staying where it is and RTÉ 2 is staying where it is. Period!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Six-One is staying where it is and RTÉ 2 is staying where it is. Period!

    No Change. Period! So what would you do?

    I mean this idea of do nothing isn't working.

    RTÉ2 serve no purpose other than to provide some kind of so called choice. It has no original programming off its own.

    The sports that do air on it generally rarely clash with Six-ONE.

    RTÉ themselves have stated that they are moving all major sporting events to RTÉ ONE.

    RTÉ one does not provide a full day-time schedule year round. Today is getting ready to head on a break.

    Surely RTÉ would be better to ultise what they have for example Today: -

    I will give you
    Racing from Punchestown

    But surely RTÉ2 should keep its schedule until 6pm with RTÉ giving TODAY a weeks break so that it can continue into the Summer months.

    Indeed prehaps Six ONE could take a their break for the week so that it can have a normal show during August, and it could take Home and Away in the normal schedule slot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,198 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    That article was published 22 years ago! Why do you think it would be reflective of the number of writers involved now?

    Correct, it must be at least double that now!!!

    all those nieces & nephews won't employ themselves you know!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,198 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    NIMAN wrote: »
    And,

    "...a further 170 RTE staff members earned between €80,000 and €100,000".


    And don't forget, this is RTE Employees, not contractors. So most of the big hitters aren't included in these figures.

    And don't forget that an awful lot of the staff, like stagers, cameramen, sound people etc..... all get absolutely fabulous cash bonus/perks/expenses for doing their jobs out of 'normal hours'... I'd have no doubt that folks out there could be easily taking on an additional 20-30k a year in perks!!

    All that stuff wouldn't be counted in salaries, but rather 'production costs'.

    Thats where teh real scandal is......

    What, Dee gets a €25,000 per year car allowance!!!! Are you for f****ing real????

    https://www.independent.ie/regionals/herald/news/rte-executives-claim-822k-in-car-allowances-as-staff-on-lower-grades-fight-plans-for-pay-freeze-39059782.html

    She drives from home to her office in work, and she gets €25k per year for the trouble!!!!!

    No wonder she's always smiling...
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,483 ✭✭✭garrettod


    This proved to be an interesting read...

    https://www.thejournal.ie/rte-dail-committee-5421151-Apr2021/?mc_cid=28691257ab&mc_eid=a6c0075496

    Dee ducking and diving, when asked what the initial payment to Revenue was - my ar$e she didn't know roughly how much had to be paid, in the initial payment.

    Thanks,

    G.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Thats where teh real scandal is......

    What, Dee gets a €25,000 per year car allowance!!!! Are you for f****ing real????

    When she took the position she "moved" from London, for this she was given an extra "moving fee" of €50,000.

    Now from what I can gather she had been based in Cork when she was in Discovery in London and flew back and forth. She is still based in Cork and I assume that she might have a home in Dublin..... but 50,000 for moving from possibly the sale of her property in London?

    Though why would you sell your London property?

    That is pure speculation BTW but not with out reasoning.


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