Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

Dr. Em · 28-04-2021 01:25PM

Chuck Norris 2021 wrote: »

I know a lot of people on here had got passports within days of renewing online. I had given up hope on the lottery system, the wife's application had been in since February. Just arrived in the post! This is the most optimistic I've felt about travel in months. So if you're waiting on yours, don't give up hope yet. Roll on July : )

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Two month turnaround? That is quicker than the last time I renewed in pre-Covid times. Admittedly, that was just after the Brexit referendum when there was evidently a surge in applications.

pouladuff_goal · 28-04-2021 01:46PM

seansouth36 wrote: »

Same. London in May and then off for a few weeks around the Greek islands in July. Whether I need to go via Belfast, or London or just book a dentists' appointment in Athens, I don't really care. Any moral authority the government has to tell me where I can and cannot travel to has long since evaporated.

Zero moral authority.

I will obey the law. A dental appointment or a visit to a grave gets me over the border legally. After that freedom.

28-04-2021 01:49PM

Just wondering what is the difference for people in flying from Belfast or Dublin?
Is it purely to avoid the fine for non essential travel?

Corholio · 28-04-2021 01:52PM

bubblypop wrote: »

Just wondering what is the difference for people in flying from Belfast or Dublin?
Is it purely to avoid the fine for non essential travel?

Pretty much I would imagine, it's the only huge difference (from mid May anyway) between the two.

28-04-2021 01:53PM

Corholio wrote: »

Pretty much I would imagine, it's the only huge difference (from mid May anyway) between the two.

I would imagine it won't exist after June in Ireland

Tenzor07 · 28-04-2021 02:01PM

Well, great plans ahead for reopening travel this summer from Varadkar...

Should get the Travel industry up and running again and allow people to travel abroad...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-ireland/summer-is-not-yet-lost-irish-pm-backs-air-bridges-idUSKBN23B232

:rolleyes:

eltonyio · 28-04-2021 02:03PM

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/health-pharma/europe-can-achieve-herd-immunity-against-covid-19-by-august-biontech-1.4550049

Very positive outlook here from the BioNTech CEO.

“Europe will reach herd immunity in July, latest by August,” said Ugur Sahin, BioNTech’s chief executive.

Mr Sahin said BioNTech has tested its vaccine against more than 30 variants, including the now-dominant one first detected in Britain, and found the shot triggers a good immune response against almost all of them in the lab. In cases where the immune response was weaker, it remained sufficient, he said, without providing exact figures. Asked about the new variant first detected in India, Mr Sahin said the vaccine’s effectiveness against it was still being investigated.

“But the Indian variant has mutations that we have previously investigated and against which our vaccine also works, so I am confident there, too,” he said.

As a backdrop this would provide for a very positive outlook to wide reopening of travel in the summer.

Chuck Norris 2021 · 28-04-2021 02:06PM

eltonyio wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/health-pharma/europe-can-achieve-herd-immunity-against-covid-19-by-august-biontech-1.4550049

Very positive outlook here from the BioNTech CEO.

As a backdrop this would provide for a very positive outlook to wide reopening of travel in the summer.

Will somebody please think about the scariants :pac:. I would imagine Big T and his NPHET buddies will continue to tell us we must be cautious.....

Corholio · 28-04-2021 02:06PM

bubblypop wrote: »

I would imagine it won't exist after June in Ireland

Possibly, 'after June' is July though and plenty will be heading out through Belfast long before that, unless there's a drastic change in the UK plans.

Red Silurian · 28-04-2021 02:07PM

pouladuff_goal wrote: »

Currently anyone who lives within 20KMs of the border can cross it legally and then are bound by local laws.

Anybody within an essential reason to travel can cross the border and then are bound by local laws.

It would appear that travel to Spain will be legally possible from the UK after May 17th.

A holiday in Spain this summer looks on now.

I have no reason to visit any of the MHQ countries. I assume Spain will not make that list.

I can do all of the above legally.

Assuming that the North follows the rest of the UK and that the UK don't backtrack on the foreign holidays plan, yes

I'd still consider the situation to be up in the air though

Corholio · 28-04-2021 02:08PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Well, great plans ahead for reopening travel this summer from Varadkar...

Should get the Travel industry up and running again and allow people to travel abroad...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-ireland/summer-is-not-yet-lost-irish-pm-backs-air-bridges-idUSKBN23B232

:rolleyes:

It said they'll review the MHQ on June 18th, has that date always been known?

Tenzor07 · 28-04-2021 02:10PM

Corholio wrote: »

It said they'll review the MHQ on June 18th, has that date always been known?

My point was about Govt. messaging is we've been hearing more or less the same thing since last year..... Still no clear plans on restarting travel.... MHQ needs to come to a very fast end.

Chuck Norris 2021 · 28-04-2021 02:11PM

Corholio wrote: »

It said they'll review the MHQ on June 18th, has that date always been known?

It was a 3 month contract, initiated on March 26th, so I assume they need to review it ahead of the expiry.

Corholio · 28-04-2021 02:11PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

My point was about Govt. messaging is we've been hearing more or less the same thing since last year..... Still no clear plans on restarting travel.... MHQ needs to come to a very fast end.

Oh no I agreed with the point, just didn't know about the specific date.

Red Silurian · 28-04-2021 02:14PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

My point was about Govt. messaging is we've been hearing more or less the same thing since last year..... Still no clear plans on restarting travel.... MHQ needs to come to a very fast end.

The issue with that is if you end MHQ too early you risk our COVID numbers doubling or even tripling in a short space of time

eltonyio · 28-04-2021 02:16PM

Red Silurian wrote: »

The issue with that is if you end MHQ too early you risk our COVID numbers doubling or even tripling in a short space of time

Shouldn't they have collapsed then since MHQ was introduced?

28-04-2021 02:18PM

pouladuff_goal wrote: »

Currently anyone who lives within 20KMs of the border can cross it legally and then are bound by local laws.

Anybody within an essential reason to travel can cross the border and then are bound by local laws.

It would appear that travel to Spain will be legally possible from the UK after May 17th.

A holiday in Spain this summer looks on now.

I have no reason to visit any of the MHQ countries. I assume Spain will not make that list.

I can do all of the above legally.

you keep repeating that as an answer despite the fact that everyone else is talking about RETURNING and not about leaving at all.

Secondly, You can legally leave the country via Dublin airport if you have an essential reason so I'm also confused why you mention that as well.n it's not relevant.

Please, read his post again, particularly this part:

"no self-quarantine needed on return from Balearic Islands within a few weeks and from the rest of Spain from June:"

So again, considering our laws apply to people RETURNING from the UK as well as Spain, how is this relevant from a legal point of view?

Either way you are legally required to quarantine at home.

28-04-2021 02:20PM

eltonyio wrote: »

Shouldn't they have collapsed then since MHQ was introduced?

No.

That's not how it works unless you are also forcing locals into mhq.

Red Silurian · 28-04-2021 02:24PM

eltonyio wrote: »

Shouldn't they have collapsed then since MHQ was introduced?

MHQ is only for those entering the country, if you quarantined everybody who contracted COVID in the last 14 days and anybody they came into close contact with for the last 20 then they would collapse to nearly zero

Micky 32 · 28-04-2021 02:40PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Well, great plans ahead for reopening travel this summer from Varadkar...

Should get the Travel industry up and running again and allow people to travel abroad...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-ireland/summer-is-not-yet-lost-irish-pm-backs-air-bridges-idUSKBN23B232

:rolleyes:

June 2020

:pac:

Tenzor07 · 28-04-2021 02:47PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

June 2020 :pac:

Yeap...."Groundhog Year" with this Govt. We'll be seeing something similar again from them in 2022 probably... :eek:

Hellrazer · 28-04-2021 03:04PM

Red Silurian wrote: »

The issue with that is if you end MHQ too early you risk our COVID numbers doubling or even tripling in a short space of time

MHQ has made no difference to the case numbers unless you are talking about cases in variants that dont exist yet or havent been detected.

Burgo · 28-04-2021 03:13PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

June 2020 :pac:

Yeah saw the "Prime Minister Leo" and thought this writer is a bit out of touch, then had a gander at the date! We've been rick rolled!

M_Murphy57 · 28-04-2021 03:17PM

Edit, I see it's an old article

Del Griffith · 28-04-2021 06:13PM

Red Silurian wrote: »

MHQ is only for those entering the country, if you quarantined everybody who contracted COVID in the last 14 days and anybody they came into close contact with for the last 20 then they would collapse to nearly zero

Clearly that's what we should do then. Only thing is they can never come out, too risky.

saabsaab · 28-04-2021 06:35PM

Del Griffith wrote: »

Clearly that's what we should do then. Only thing is they can never come out, too risky.

What on earth does that mean?

Del Griffith · 28-04-2021 06:37PM

saabsaab wrote: »

What on earth does that mean?

That we can achieve zero covid in Ireland. All we need to do is quarantine the entire population, forever.

It might seem extreme, but this is a global pandemic after all. Individual quarantine forever can be the new normal, we can't be too careful and are following the science with an abundance of caution.

Are you in support? I assume so.

a_squirrelman · 28-04-2021 06:48PM

saabsaab wrote: »

What on earth does that mean?

VaRiEnTs!!!

eltonyio · 28-04-2021 06:53PM

saabsaab wrote: »

What on earth does that mean?

It means he gets results!

saabsaab · 28-04-2021 06:55PM

Del Griffith wrote: »

That we can achieve zero covid in Ireland. All we need to do is quarantine the entire population, forever.

It might seem extreme, but this is a global pandemic after all. Individual quarantine forever can be the new normal, we can't be too careful and are following the science with an abundance of caution.

Are you in support? I assume so.

No. Not forever. Waiting for the vaccine roll out

Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

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