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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • #8372
    Marty Bird
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Marty Bird


    Sharpyshoot wrote: »
    Shame you won’t staycation here and put money into pockets of business that are on their knees.

    I did that last year for two staycations and it cost me nearly 5k I’ve supported my local hospitality industry for years and I will continue to do so when allowed , but I just can’t take another summer of poxy weather.

    🌞6.02kWp⚡️3.01kWp South/East⚡️3.01kWp West



  • #8373
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    No, no, and no. I don't know how to be more clear.

    Ah! Let 'er rip. Okay. A lot of the 'open up crew' on this thread have been saying that no one is asking for there to be no mitigation measures. It appears that you're an outlier.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar



  • #8374
    kwestfan08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭kwestfan08


    Cases in Florida have also been trending down too the last two weeks or so even with no restrictions on social distancing or masks within bars/nightclubs etc. I’m not saying we’re there yet to do that but the point I was making is it wouldn’t be the apocalypse is we allowed indoor socialising once we reach 40-50% of the population vaccinated.


  • #8375
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    ypres5 wrote: »
    So gozunda, what do you feel ireland has in common with india in terms of population size, density, healthcare and overall standard of living? While florida might not be a like for like comparison to ireland we've a lot more on common in terms of standard of living and quality of life

    Aha so we are allowed to compare countries now. And we're doing threesomes! Well there's a new one :pac:

    Tbh its an irrelevant question to me - as my comment
    wasn't comparing India with us or any country

    But tell me are we allowed to mention the word 'india' without being accused of it being a "comparison" as I dunno when I commented 'scenes out of India were depressing'?

    Or is it you don't think scenes from India can be described so? Why is that?


  • #8376
    ypres5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭ypres5


    gozunda wrote: »
    Aha so we are allowed to compare countries now. Well there's a new one :pac:

    Tbh its an irrelevant question to me - as my comment
    wasn't comparing India with us or any country

    But tell me are we allowed to mention the word 'india' without being accused of it being a "comparison" as I dunno when I commented 'scenes out of India were depressing'?

    Or is it you don't think scenes from India can be described so? Why is that?

    I just don't see what relevance the situation in india has to ireland. We will never be in that position due to a variety of factors and you brought india into the discussion into the first place and you've been tying yourself up in knots trying to rationalize it since


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  • #8377
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    ypres5 wrote: »
    I just don't see what relevance the situation in india has to ireland.

    You could have said the same about China in December 2019.


  • #8378
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 949 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Penfailed wrote: »
    Ah! Let 'er rip. Okay.

    Won't happen. People will still wear masks and take precautions if they feel they need to, just as they have in places where those things are not mandated. If all restrictions were lifted tomorrow I would still wear a mask into a crowded place and I would still wash my hands before and after, I'd still not go meet my elderly relatives until after their second jab. And I'm not particularly special or different or weird. There was an op-ed a few months ago by some liberal woman in the US who went to Florida, presumably to write a scathing indictment of the Wild Wild East, only to end up having to write about how shocked she was that people were wearing masks and largely keeping their distance from each other. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    The Irish people are not children, and I will not be kowtowed into pretending that people exercising their freedom to assemble as they wish and breathe as they wish is wrong or immoral. You can do that, and so can anyone else who wants to. I will not do that, ever, no matter how much social shame is shoveled my way.

    Unless the health service is crumbling under the weight of severe Covid cases, which is unlikely now or in the future unless we get a vaccine-evading variant, even if all restrictions are lifted, the levels of restriction that are being inflicted on the Irish people at this stage of the vaccination program are morally and ethically repugnant.

    Anywho. Life to live. Might check in next week. Have a good 'un.


  • #8379
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    ypres5 wrote: »
    I just don't see what relevance the situation in india has to ireland. We will never be in that position due to a variety of factors and you brought india into the discussion into the first place and you've been tying yourself up in knots trying to rationalize it since

    Well Ypres5 clearly not - that or anything else tbh.

    Btw where was any of that said at all or is that just making stuff up again ?

    So my sentence which read that - its
    "Equally depressing and sad are the scenes coming out of India"

    Had something to do with our situation here atm? How the fuq do you work that out?

    I'd suggest you're "tying yourself up in knots trying to rationalize" with that extremly poor attempt at backtracking ;)

    But hey no matter. Good to know we can engage with the fairytale as to why Florida is just like Ireland. But can't even mention the word "India". Got ya.


  • #8380
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Anywho. Life to live. Might check in next week. Have a good 'un.

    You too.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar



  • #8381
    Whatsisname
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,832 ✭✭✭Whatsisname


    Lockdowns hurt child speech and language skills - report
    Data from 50,000 pupils and a survey of schools across England have shown an increased number of four- and five-year-olds needing help with language.

    The Education Endowment Foundation (EEF) research suggests the measures taken to combat the pandemic have deprived the youngest children of social contact and experiences essential for increasing vocabulary.

    Less or no contact with grandparents, social distancing, no play dates, and the wearing of face coverings in public have left children less exposed to conversations and everyday experiences.

    Of 58 primary schools surveyed across England:
    • 76% said pupils starting school in September 2020 needed more support with communication than in previous years
    • 96% they were concerned about pupils' speech-and-language development.
    • And 56% of parents were concerned about their child starting at school following the lockdown in the spring and summer.

    Theres been a tonne of things that have shocked me over the last year but the apparent contempt for children to get an education is near the top of my list. The amount of times I've seen people scream "CLOSE THE SCHOOLS" or even recently seeing people say, "sure the year is nearly over anyway, close them now until September" with no consideration whatsoever for the roll on effect that'll have on children, especially those in their early school years. It's about time it's finally being highlighted.

    I'm just surprised the headline is "lockdowns" and not "covid".


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  • #8382
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    kwestfan08 wrote: »
    Cases in Florida have also been trending down too the last two weeks or so even with no restrictions on social distancing or masks within bars/nightclubs etc. I’m not saying we’re there yet to do that but the point I was making is it wouldn’t be the apocalypse is we allowed indoor socialising once we reach 40-50% of the population vaccinated.

    What is it with feking Florida and Ireland comparisons!

    Well let's look at that. Whilst overall case figures are down - Florida is still in the top 10 US states where coronavirus is spreading the fastest on a per-person basis. It case positivity rate is also up from previous (and higher than here) . So looks like they haven't achieved a critical number of vaccinations as of yet.

    Afaik Ireland is looking at achieving approx 50% of the total adult population here to be vaccinated before restrictions for indoor / crowded / difficult to social distance and close contact venues will be rolled back.

    Currently the UK is at over 50% of its population with at least dose of vaccine and they're not planning on opening nightclubs atm with a provisional date of the end of June being mooted.

    The national Events Research Programme (ERP),
    In the UK Is trialling one trial nightclub event in order to provide infection data on how events for a range of audiences could be permitted to safely reopen as part of the roadmap out of lockdown.

    They will use the findings base their opening of nightclubs etc basis on that.


  • #8383
    robbiezero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,780 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    11521323 wrote: »
    We're also unbelievably weak as a population. Most people will accept being bent over perpetually once the man on the television says we need to.

    We've restricted our way into poll position within Europe for any statistic you want to look at (relating to Covid-19 suppression) and yet our reward for all that effort is a slower reopening than the rest of the world.

    The people's response? "Ah sure hopefully we'll be able to sit inside a restaurant by the end of the year"

    It's sickening.

    I think we are a bit of a strange lot. We have a large cohort of people now almost completely ignoring restrictions, possibly in other countries, they might actually obey the nonsense, but protest.

    I'm not sure I know anyone that is paying any heed of the idiotic travel or meeting one other household crap.
    Our biggest problem when organising meet ups is how to keep numbers some bit down (nothing to do with Covid, but ya don't really want 30 people in your garden or house just for a casual meetup).


  • #8384
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Leo says yiz are to be less puritanical!


  • #8385
    Sofa King Great
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Leo says yiz are to be less puritanical!

    He is just looking to get back out for cans in Phoenix Park


  • #8386
    scamalert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,738 ✭✭✭scamalert


    if you let psychopath run the country we would be in lvl6 now:

    However, the Minister also informed Cabinet that Dr Tony Holohan advised that a number of other European countries, including EU member states, should be added to the list on the basis that they have an incidence rate of the virus that is two-and-a-half times that of Ireland.
    Cabinet sources reported that the countries included on the list - which Mr Donnelly was said to have read out quickly - were Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Romania, Switzerland, the Czech Republic and Liechtenstein.


    pathetic attempt yet this clown rules us. thank fuk it was rejected.


  • #8387
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxhBkXW2C-I


    These virologist’s were waiting for this all their careers

    Delighted to be relevant for once and have the attention of the room


  • #8388
    mightyreds
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,890 ✭✭✭mightyreds


    Sharpyshoot wrote: »
    Shame you won’t staycation here and put money into pockets of business that are on their knees.

    unless we post it in the letterbox cause they will be shut


  • #8389
    Sharpyshoot
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 452 ✭✭Sharpyshoot


    The internet should be turned off.


  • #8390
    ypres5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭ypres5


    scamalert wrote: »
    if you let psychopath run the country we would be in lvl6 now:

    However, the Minister also informed Cabinet that Dr Tony Holohan advised that a number of other European countries, including EU member states, should be added to the list on the basis that they have an incidence rate of the virus that is two-and-a-half times that of Ireland.
    Cabinet sources reported that the countries included on the list - which Mr Donnelly was said to have read out quickly - were Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Romania, Switzerland, the Czech Republic and Liechtenstein.


    pathetic attempt yet this clown rules us. thank fuk it was rejected.

    They'll turn us into pariahs by the time they're done. The MHQ has landed us in enough hot water with the EU as is. That holohan is an evil **** stirrer.


  • #8391
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Don't Chute! wrote: »
    Just give me a second there Goz I’m just looking at my post to find where I said or even SUGGESTED “letting it rip”. No sorry, couldn’t find it. Could you show me?

    Ah hallelujah - finally light at the end of the tunnel then? Just like there was absolutely no mention or suggestion of any thing of the opposite end of the spectrum as was suggested in this load of superfluous hyperbole?
    Don't Chute! wrote: »
    What is it with some people here using what’s happening in India to justify our continued lockdown? It’s almost as if they are absolutely delighted with what’s happening. Falling over themselves to make ludicrous comparisons. And they still say that they don’t want this to go on forever.

    Indeed some falling over themselves to make "ludicrous comparisons" - seems to be a bit of a habit here. ;)


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  • #8392
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 338 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    JWT gone as well. 60 years in business, Shame to see and unfortunately there will probably be more. Sad times.


  • #8393
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    Shame on you, and all those who thanked you.

    For the record, I thanked the post in relation to people contacting their TDs. That's why I edited the rest of the questionable parts of the post when I quoted it.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

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  • #8394
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    gansi wrote: »
    JWT gone as well. 60 years in business, Shame to see and unfortunately there will probably be more. Sad times.

    Sad and unnecessary

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rte.ie/amp/1212375/
    "Travel protocols in Ireland are the most restrictive in Europe, putting Irish travel companies at a disadvantage to their European counterparts."


  • #8395
    Pintman Paddy Losty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Now "Paddy", the comedy routine is beyond stale. You have been rumbled in other threads. You know full well that was a figure of speech. Fess up and spite the divil, it would do wonders for an agitated frame of mind.


    No idea what you're trying to say.


    Dr. Holohan has a tough job and I'm sure he takes absolutely no pleasure in having to make extremely unpopular recommendations in the public good. The level of invective you and others level at him is extreme and unwarranted.


  • #8396
    Sobit1964
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Sobit1964


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    No idea what you're trying to say.


    Dr. Holohan has a tough job and I'm sure he takes absolutely no pleasure in having to make extremely unpopular recommendations in the public good. The level of invective you and others level at him is extreme and unwarranted.

    Thats great you are sure about how he feels. Comforting for those who didn't get to say goodbye to a loved one. :rolleyes:


  • #8397
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,153 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Any leaks from the NPHET meeting today?


  • #8398
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,519 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Any leaks from the NPHET meeting today?

    There concerned and need us to hold firm


  • #8399
    ypres5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭ypres5


    Sobit1964 wrote: »
    Thats great you are sure about how he feels. Comforting for those who didn't get to say goodbye to a loved one. :rolleyes:

    I don't understand the compulsive need some people have to put overpaid public servants on a pedestal like they're feeding the poor in Yemen. The lads in nphet will be alright, they won't be claiming the PUP or dole any time soon


  • #8400
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 289 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Any idea when intercounty travel will be back? I have a hotel stay booked for late June. Thanks.


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  • #8401
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,255 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Any idea when intercounty travel will be back? I have a hotel stay booked for late June. Thanks.


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