And the winner of dreamer of the year is... Part 2!

Duke O Smiley · 20-04-2021 08:19PM

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I could understand if it was a STi but would need to be tested too though to be looking for such a high price but that is just a WRX.

What’s that one realistically worth? About a quarter of the current asking?

wotzgoingon · 20-04-2021 08:22PM

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

What’s that one realistically worth? About a quarter of the current asking?

In and around that. And personally if I was paying even a quarter of asking I would be looking for a full NCT to go with it.

PsychoPete · 20-04-2021 08:26PM

Surely an sti is only worth around the 10k mark

wotzgoingon · 20-04-2021 08:29PM

PsychoPete wrote: »

Surely an sti is only worth around the 10k mark

Wouldn't be worth 20k but with test it would be worth more than 10k but maybe €17-18k. It is a classic car after all and not far left to go till it's 56 a year to tax. But that would be for a STi model if it looked the same and was the same age. As it looks clean in pics for age.

Wibbs · 20-04-2021 08:51PM

I always liked the Scoobies, though preferred the Mitzis. Over the years I've heard from mechanics that they can be quite troublesome for a Japanese car as the miles pile on. I dunno if that's just campfire chat though? You'd think if the seller was serious they'd clean up the interior and underbonnet. The wheel jumped out at me. Badly. That could be tarted up, as could the engine bay. Give it a service and fire it through the NCT. Never mind spellcheck the ad and give more details. That's the part I don't get with many of these ads, especially for the more niche stuff. Not so much the prices alone, but the prices and crappy presentation and descriptions.

useless · 24-04-2021 09:43AM

€8275 for a 14 year old Golf GTi. Ambitious.

Toyotafanboi · 24-04-2021 10:00AM

He must still think it's 2010 because he's put it in the buy and sell too :pac:

Killinator · 24-04-2021 04:45PM

Only hope of that kind of money would be an Edition 30, which it ain't.
Be lucky to get a third of the asking for it.

useless · 24-04-2021 05:31PM

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

He must still think it's 2010 because he's put it in the buy and sell too :pac:

I found it in the Irish Times. Possibly a staff member or on mates rates because a colour photo ad in their classifieds isn’t cheap...

wotzgoingon · 24-04-2021 05:56PM

The last place I would look when looking to buy a car is a newspaper. Unless of course back years ago when you would look in the buy and sell.

For Forks Sake · 24-04-2021 11:15PM

useless wrote: »

€8275 for a 14 year old Golf GTi. Ambitious.

Has it fallen over?

Ciano35 · 25-04-2021 11:29AM

https://www.donedeal.ie/caraccessories-for-sale/peugeot-206-gti-20l-180b/27934646?campaign=3

Cool car but... 20k for a 206

PsychoPete · 25-04-2021 11:33AM

20k is absolute lunacy but price aside I think it looks fantastic

Vicxas · 25-04-2021 11:34AM

Ciano35 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/caraccessories-for-sale/peugeot-206-gti-20l-180b/27934646?campaign=3

Cool car but... 20k for a 206

To be fair the car looks immaculate, but 20k is a bit excessive.

Eoinbmw · 25-04-2021 11:34AM

Ciano35 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/caraccessories-for-sale/peugeot-206-gti-20l-180b/27934646?campaign=3

Cool car but... 20k for a 206

Holy ****e that's insanity a luke warm car in its day not received well and now it's some sort of hot hatch legend lol

Doublebusy · 25-04-2021 11:35AM

Price is crazy. But to be honest it does look brand new. Nice reg

Tzardine · 25-04-2021 12:25PM

Somebody was sniffing the glue if they think the are getting 20 grand for that.

Its a 6 grand car in the UK. Allowing for the low mileage, even 10,000 euro is optimistic.

Nobody wants them.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 26-04-2021 02:11PM

Jesus that 206 looks like a 3k car to me but the milage suggests maybe 5 to 6... But 20 is crack smoking territory. It's barely even a "hot hatch" those were all in the 90s and early 00s, that's a yoke NOBODY wants. Imagine the multiple cool cars you could get with 20k.

People are wheeling everything out of sheds lately and asking the world for them. Wait a few months, there's a recession coming like never before and these asking prices will disappear. Youd be mad to buy any sort of car like that at the moment.

Vicxas · 26-04-2021 04:18PM

Would a 205GTi even go for that?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 26-04-2021 04:45PM

Vicxas wrote: »

Would a 205GTi even go for that?

Would I pay more than 3k for it, no.

Top Dog · 26-04-2021 05:04PM

Vicxas wrote: »

Would a 205GTi even go for that?

I saw 2 on donedeal recently - UK registered 1.9 asking £20k and an Irish registered
1.6 asking €10k.

Now whether they're achieving those prices is an entirely different thing

Wibbs · 26-04-2021 05:15PM

Classic auctions have a lot to answer for as far as people believing cray cray prices. So yes a couple of 205GTi's may have gone for 30-40k at auction, but they were like new with half a mile on the odometer, shrink wrap on the seats, original everything and a wild night with a Parisian supermodel thrown in. And they were at auction where all it takes is two yahoos with more cash than sense having a willie waving contest with auction batons to drive them to mad "values".

Some bloke reads about that and drags his rusty 25 owner 205 out of a barn in Wicklow, with added chicken poo, that hasn't started since Oasis had their first single and mileage that suggests it followed Neil Armstrong to the moon. And back. He then reckons ah shure they're a classic collectable therefore it must be worth at least 25k. So he details it with a hose and fairy liquid, takes awful pics with his phone, types up an ad in something approaching english, but not quite, fires it up on Donedeal and then can't understand why his phone isn't hopping.

JC01 · 26-04-2021 08:13PM

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

What’s that one realistically worth? About a quarter of the current asking?

The price of 90s jap performance cars has gone ballistic in the last year. That cars probably worth 10-14 depending on condition.

And the ads gone.

CoBo55 · 26-04-2021 08:22PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Classic auctions have a lot to answer for as far as people believing cray cray prices. So yes a couple of 205GTi's may have gone for 30-40k at auction, but they were like new with half a mile on the odometer, shrink wrap on the seats, original everything and a wild night with a Parisian supermodel thrown in. And they were at auction where all it takes is two yahoos with more cash than sense having a willie waving contest with auction batons to drive them to mad "values".

Some bloke reads about that and drags his rusty 25 owner 205 out of a barn in Wicklow, with added chicken poo, that hasn't started since Oasis had their first single and mileage that suggests it followed Neil Armstrong to the moon. And back. He then reckons ah shure they're a classic collectable therefore it must be worth at least 25k. So he details it with a hose and fairy liquid, takes awful pics with his phone, types up an ad in something approaching english, but not quite, fires it up on Donedeal and then can't understand why his phone isn't hopping.

Has to be post of the year, I’m cracking here:pac::pac: Detailed with a hose and fairy liquid

punisher5112 · 26-04-2021 08:39PM

I can see these prices having no choice but to drop, there is serious financial issues ahead with loss of jobs and everyone will find from now on renting is getting closer to a life long only option.

It's mad to see what likes of cosworths were selling for in the middle of the recession and prices now absolutely bonkers.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 26-04-2021 09:06PM

JC01 wrote: »

The price of 90s jap performance cars has gone ballistic in the last year. That cars probably worth 10-14 depending on condition.

And the ads gone.

It's extremely worrying... Will I ever have some sort of vtec mid 90s in the shed for weekends ever again? Seems like anything decent is going for mad money... And quickly.

Also don't forget, those cushy covid payments are coming to an end very soon, massive unemployment, emigration etc. Same as 2008ish when you couldn't give away some of these cars. Buying now is retarded.

JC01 · 26-04-2021 10:41PM

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 wrote: »

It's extremely worrying... Will I ever have some sort of vtec mid 90s in the shed for weekends ever again? Seems like anything decent is going for mad money... And quickly.

Also don't forget, those cushy covid payments are coming to an end very soon, massive unemployment, emigration etc. Same as 2008ish when you couldn't give away some of these cars. Buying now is retarded.

Honestly I think people over exaggerate the impact Covid has had on prices, for me it’s a simple supply issue. There simply aren’t many of these cars left in the country and the majority of the ones left are owned by older real enthusiasts who aren’t changing car every 6 months. Go on DoneDeal/ Facebook etc and look for examples for sale, between S/R bodies, Evos, Stis, Type Rs, 1/2jz road cars you won’t find 10 for sale.

Go back 5 years and there was 10 of each of the above for sale at any given time.

Also importing is as expensive as paying the Irish “crazy” prices since the price has massively increased in the US and Aus markets. I know of a few high spec jap cars to head to mainland Europe over the last few years too. I think there is actual value in the cars nowadays rather than an inflated market.

Once the market pushed more of these cars cross the threshold into collectible investment pieces they’ll go the way of the GTRs and forget about it then.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 26-04-2021 10:50PM

JC01 wrote: »

Honestly I think people over exaggerate the impact Covid has had on prices, for me it’s a simple supply issue. There simply aren’t many of these cars left in the country and the majority of the ones left are owned by older real enthusiasts who aren’t changing car every 6 months. Go on DoneDeal/ Facebook etc and look for examples for sale, between S/R bodies, Evos, Stis, Type Rs, 1/2jz road cars you won’t find 10 for sale.

Go back 5 years and there was 10 of each of the above for sale at any given time.

Also importing is as expensive as paying the Irish “crazy” prices since the price has massively increased in the US and Aus markets. I know of a few high spec jap cars to head to mainland Europe over the last few years too. I think there is actual value in the cars nowadays rather than an inflated market.

Once the market pushed more of these cars cross the threshold into collectible investment pieces they’ll go the way of the GTRs and forget about it then.

Believe me it's not exaggerated. It's gone bananas since January. Take for example last year when people were asking were those old 1 litre box shape starlets really worth 2k? Well now they're double that. A rolling shell is now 2k. Glanzas were still 5-6k, now they're pushing 10. Anything pre 2002 honda even boggo sohc civics are insane money unless they've just been pulled from a ditch, ie the new "stored since 2xxx". Even the undesirable stuff like the horrid late 90s prelude is 8/9k, a car that was always worthless but it's jap and "find another one"...

They're just cars that were ten a penny a few years ago, nothing special. Not GTRs.

Don't get me started on BMWs... An e46 coupe with the 4 cylinder 318i was never ever a 4k cars, not last year, not the year before and not for maybe 7 or 8 years. They were cheap and undesirable. Now this year 4k for a good one and they're flying off donedeal. The 320i (2.2) you'd now swear was a rocketship the prices they go for.

I keep track of a lot of this kinda stuff and I know well it's all gone nuts this year.

PsychoPete · 26-04-2021 10:51PM

I've no problem with people asking strong money for Evos,Chasers,Sti etc but it's the rough sh!t heaps like 90s Toyotas with people asking crazy money for them, there's people asking 4 or 5k for standard carinas,corollas,starlets etc

TheW1zard · 26-04-2021 10:55PM

Lots of spare cash these days, to think what I've sold for chips in the past!

And the winner of dreamer of the year is... Part 2!

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