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paddyisreal · 23-04-2021 09:57PM

The Davestator wrote: »

Totally agree. you would have thought at this stage, with the public opinion well and truly turned that they would all just announce they were opening in the morning and be done with it. The gardai can't close everyone down.

When publicans are recieving up to 5k a week to stay close depending on previous income obviously....why would you want to reopen ?

bear1 · 23-04-2021 10:38PM

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/taoiseach-signals-reopening-to-proceed-even-if-there-s-bad-news-on-j-j-vaccine-1.4546035?mode=amp

Jesus. They are back end forth.
End of the year with pints?
**** off and you've people on this thread they seem content with it all.
Ryanair begging the government to scrap the hotel nonsense, people escaping north for a haircut..
Has the planet gone ****in insane?
Look at flightradar and it's a sad sad state of affairs.
The country striked due to water charges but for this...??

Frankie19 · 23-04-2021 10:39PM

paddyisreal wrote: »

When publicans are recieving up to 5k a week to stay close depending on previous income obviously....why would you want to reopen ?

Exactly. Its why the pub owners are not going mental. They are receiving a % of previous revenue with very little costs. Their staff are all on pup..dont need stock....commercial rates paused e.t.c while I'm sure they would like to be open they arent pushing it as they are being looked after.

bear1 · 23-04-2021 10:41PM

paddyisreal wrote: »

When publicans are recieving up to 5k a week to stay close depending on previous income obviously....why would you want to reopen ?

So publicans are staying silent because they've income anyway?

gozunda · 23-04-2021 10:47PM

niallo27 wrote: »

You do know they can fly to Spain on their holidays, where as we can stand in a field with another person as long neither of us own the field. I'd swap any day with them.

And you know the opening of Germanys own tourism sector is prosponed due to rise in the rate of infection there

Whilst we're swapping anecdotes. Apparently the Spanish can stand in a field but have to wear a mask to do so. :cool:

Batattackrat · 23-04-2021 10:47PM

paddyisreal wrote: »

When publicans are recieving up to 5k a week to stay close depending on previous income obviously....why would you want to reopen ?

No there not.

10% of average weekly turnover in 2019 up to €20,000
5% of average weekly turnover in 2019 in excess of €20,000

It means **** all to them, particularly counry pubs.

Your making it out like there well looked over.

bear1 · 23-04-2021 10:49PM

gozunda wrote: »

Whilst we're swapping anecdotes. Apparently the Spanish can stand in a field but have to wear a mask to do so.

Give me their summer weather and who gives a fcuk?

paddyisreal · 23-04-2021 10:49PM

Batattackrat wrote: »

No there not.

oh yes they are, silence is being bought !

j@utis · 23-04-2021 10:49PM

Frankie19 wrote: »

Exactly. Its why the pub owners are not going mental. They are receiving a % of previous revenue with very little costs. Their staff are all on pup..dont need stock....commercial rates paused e.t.c while I'm sure they would like to be open they arent pushing it as they are being looked after.

Isn't that *income just a form of loan that will have to be repaid with interest slapped on? (A lot of bankruptcies on the way).

hynesie08 · 23-04-2021 10:51PM

paddyisreal wrote: »

oh yes they are, silence is being bought !

What % of pubs do you think are getting 5k a week?

bear1 · 23-04-2021 10:54PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

What % of pubs do you think are getting 5k a week?

"I'll take example of a load of bollocks for 100"

paddyisreal · 23-04-2021 10:56PM

Frankie19 wrote: »

Exactly. Its why the pub owners are not going mental. They are receiving a % of previous revenue with very little costs. Their staff are all on pup..dont need stock....commercial rates paused e.t.c while I'm sure they would like to be open they arent pushing it as they are being looked after.

All publicans should be worried about is how drinking habits have changed. People are now going to other people's houses and will realise the money saved in the pocket the longer this goes on.

paddyisreal · 23-04-2021 11:00PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

What % of pubs do you think are getting 5k a week?

Did you read what I said depending on previous income. Let's take a rural pub in Clare for example, their income for the month might be 5k how they are getting 700 a week plus income supplement. It's a no brainer. Also every city center pub is getting the 5k a week no doubt

Batattackrat · 23-04-2021 11:00PM

There getting 10% of weekly taking for 2019.

Yea pubs are minted now getting that 10%

PTH2009 · 23-04-2021 11:10PM

bear1 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/taoiseach-signals-reopening-to-proceed-even-if-there-s-bad-news-on-j-j-vaccine-1.4546035?mode=amp

Jesus. They are back end forth.
End of the year with pints?
**** off and you've people on this thread they seem content with it all.
Ryanair begging the government to scrap the hotel nonsense, people escaping north for a haircut..
Has the planet gone ****in insane?
Look at flightradar and it's a sad sad state of affairs.
The country striked due to water charges but for this...??

Oh FFS

All this negativity all of a sudden and its not surprising given who just came back to his role. Jesus this 'Irish version' of covid is bad really really bad, jesus christ i'm sick of it

gozunda · 23-04-2021 11:13PM

Penfailed wrote: »

Why is construction still partly closed? The UK and Israel didn't have a 5km or county travel restriction either. By that metric, we are 'doing our own thing'.

Not sure what your point is but yeah that was the point. We're doing are own thing. But apparently that's not good enough - and we should open up "now"!

But to digress ' afaik the 5km was gone last time I checked. Construction on major infrastructure and residential projects is now open. And if I remember correctly- the UK had stay at home and exercise local restrictions. And Israelis were not allowed to leave their homes unless absolutely necessary.

But back to the original point about people who demand we should open up 'now' - what's your take on that?

Btw as an aside- Interesting you mentioned construction btw. Apparently the Intel site has been reported as having a significant confirmed outbreak with the number of confirmed cases having risen today to 85.

Dickie10 · 23-04-2021 11:14PM

pubs may open in september but dont think it will be much earlier, they will leave it til schools are back then open. thought it might be mid august for staycation but i dont think so now.

bear1 · 23-04-2021 11:15PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Oh FFS

All this negativity all of a sudden and its not surprising given who just came back to his role. Jesus this 'Irish version' of covid is bad really really bad, jesus christ i'm sick of it

The Irish variant, no vaccine will help, only cure is an utter annihilation of the economy, destruction of the populations mental health and an infinite lockdown.

Batattackrat · 23-04-2021 11:21PM

Dickie10 wrote: »

pubs may open in september but dont think it will be much earlier, they will leave it til schools are back then open. thought it might be mid august for staycation but i dont think so now.

They'll be open long before September.

Beer gardens in June or sooner, and indoor from July.

There not gonna keep us locked up all summer for fear of some variant that the vacinne is not 90% effective against in winter.

75% of counties should be at level 2 right now.

If you took Dublin out of the equation our numbers are excellent.

Dickie10 · 23-04-2021 11:24PM

aww i really hope your right, thanks for the optimism. i really am finding myself a bit institutionalised since xmas. i actually cant picture or even dare to think of what normal life feels like or would look like.

Batattackrat · 23-04-2021 11:27PM

Dickie10 wrote: »

aww i really hope your right, thanks for the optimism. i really am finding myself a bit institutionalised since xmas. i actually cant picture or even dare to think of what normal life feels like or would look like.

My social anxiety is worse than ever as as a result of lockdown. I had it in the past but its gone back to been worse than it ever was.

I just want to get into my regular routine again, probably take me a few months to get out of it when we are back to normal.

Few outdoor pints was torturous 2nite with friends.

FintanMcluskey · 23-04-2021 11:28PM

Batattackrat wrote: »

They'll be open long before September.

Beer gardens in June or sooner, and indoor from July.

There not gonna keep us locked up all summer for fear of some variant that the vacinne is not 90% effective against in winter.

75% of counties should be at level 2 right now.

If you took Dublin out of the equation our numbers are excellent.

Your implying, with great confidence I may add, something that you have completely made up and the very opposite of what’s being said by those in authority

They will keep us locked up without issue “just in case”

The fact they still believe case numbers hold relevance with vulnerable and HCWs vaccinated will be an indication of the path the rest of the year will follow.

Sharpyshoot · 23-04-2021 11:29PM

Batattackrat wrote: »

They'll be open long before September.

Beer gardens in June or sooner, and indoor from July.

There not gonna keep us locked up all summer for fear of some variant that the vacinne is not 90% effective against in winter.

75% of counties should be at level 2 right now.

If you took Dublin out of the equation our numbers are excellent.

What is wrong in Dublin, are they licking each other that the numbers are high?

Batattackrat · 23-04-2021 11:30PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Your implying, with great confidence I may add, something that you have completely made up and the very opposite of what’s being said by those in authority

They will keep us locked up without issue “just in case”

The fact they still believe case numbers hold relevance with vulnerable and HCWs vaccinated will be an indication of the path the rest of the year will follow.

Well there giving an update on the hospitality sector been open next week so??

There going to open hospitality in the summer, my guess is properly when the schools are closed.

Batattackrat · 23-04-2021 11:33PM

Sharpyshoot wrote: »

What is wrong in Dublin, are they licking each other that the numbers are high?

Nothing just the population is high, no worse than kildare.

hynesie08 · 23-04-2021 11:37PM

Sharpyshoot wrote: »

What is wrong in Dublin, are they licking each other that the numbers are high?

You can't understand why numbers are higher when you cram 30% of the population into 8% of the space?

hynesie08 · 23-04-2021 11:39PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Your implying, with great confidence I may add, something that you have completely made up and the very opposite of what’s being said by those in authority

They will keep us locked up without issue “just in case”

The fact they still believe case numbers hold relevance with vulnerable and HCWs vaccinated will be an indication of the path the rest of the year will follow.

Hmmmm.

Sharpyshoot · 23-04-2021 11:41PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

You can't understand why numbers are higher when you cram 30% of the population into 8% of the space?

Are you on that angle grinder or what?

Batattackrat · 23-04-2021 11:42PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Hmmmm.

I think they misinterpreted my post completely

gozunda · 23-04-2021 11:45PM

bear1 wrote: »

Give me their summer weather and who gives a fcuk?

A bit of an uncivil start to a discussion but no matter

As to who gives a "fcuk"? Apparently Spain does..

https://www.piccavey.com/safe-travel-to-spain/

Maybe have a word with them and you can vent your anger about the ****e Irish weather and whatever else ...

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X Read OP For Mod Warnings