Will the Rovers ever Return? Your pub megathread, Part 2 - threadbans in OP

Tenzor07 · 19-04-2021 10:44PM

saabsaab wrote: »

Not a snipe just the truth. It is the stuff of conspiracy theory.

Address the point so, dismissing opinions as CT's is pretty weak.

saabsaab · 19-04-2021 10:48PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Address the point so, dismissing opinions as CT's is pretty weak.

Not when your point is the Government has an agenda against travel and pubs!

Tenzor07 · 19-04-2021 10:59PM

saabsaab wrote: »

Not when your point is the Government has an agenda against travel and pubs!

I'll be travelling to a pub up North in a couple of weeks for some draught beers, hope it's not "Dangerous"..

Degag · 19-04-2021 11:05PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

The Government have been quite happily borrowing Billions on the market at low rates....they don't seem desperate for the revenue...

They'll need to pay it back at some point which is where unfortunately you, me and a good few hundred thousand people in the hospitality & travel trades come in.

This is fairly basic stuff.

Tenzor07 · 19-04-2021 11:11PM

Degag wrote: »

They'll need to pay it back at some point which is where unfortunately you, me and a good few hundred thousand people in the hospitality & travel trades come in.This is fairly basic stuff.

"They" will be voted out next election within 3 years or less anyways, retiring on a Gold plated state pension, meanwhile you, your kids, their kids etc, will be still paying taxes for the highest levels of restrictions in the EU...

saabsaab · 19-04-2021 11:16PM

One way or another we will all be paying for it. Best worry about it after we have got it under control.

Degag · 19-04-2021 11:16PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

"They" will be voted out next election within 3 years or less anyways, retiring on a Gold plated state pension, meanwhile you, your kids, their kids etc, will be still paying taxes for the highest levels of restrictions in the EU...

It doesn't matter who "they" are in this context.

And you've just de-crypted your own conspiracy there. Yes there will be (in all likelihood) increased taxes because of this. And you think "they" have an agenda against two of the biggest industries in the country that can do this?!

Tazz T · 20-04-2021 12:01AM

Degag wrote: »

They'll need to pay it back at some point which is where unfortunately you, me and a good few hundred thousand people in the hospitality & travel trades come in.

This is fairly basic stuff.

What hospitality/travel trade is that?

Numerous pubs are not opening ever again, they will be apartments built by Floridian cuckoo funds sucking money out of the country and there are planes and jobs trickling out of Dublin airport every day. You're delusional. Aviation, tourism and hospitality will not recover for years. There will be no money to pay for this disproportional response by a inept government. The recession and outflowing of talent will make the last banking crisis look like a trip to Lanzo.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/up-to-1-000-staff-to-leave-cork-and-dublin-airports-under-severance-programme-1.4507710

Oh, and this is pretty basic stuff.

Degag · 20-04-2021 12:12AM

Tazz T wrote: »

What hospitality/travel trade is that?

Numerous pubs are not opening ever again, they will be apartments built by Floridian cuckoo funds sucking money out of the country and there are planes and jobs trickling out of Dublin airport every day. You're delusional. Aviation, tourism and hospitality will not recover for years. There will be no money to pay for this disproportional response by a inept government. The recession and outflowing of talent will make the last banking crisis look like a trip to Lanzo.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/up-to-1-000-staff-to-leave-cork-and-dublin-airports-under-severance-programme-1.4507710

Oh, and this is pretty basic stuff.

I think you should read my posts properly before calling me delusional because it's fairly evident that you haven't.

Of course there are going to be pubs and restaurants and alot of other trades and businesses that go under. Which is terrible.

But to suggest that the Government have some sort of agenda against hospitality & travel is some serious delusion as these businesses are needed to get us out of the hole we are in.

What it's basically saying is that the Government is against tourism. I would ask if that sounds plausible but i'd be afraid of the types of response it would garner.

Tazz T · 20-04-2021 10:26AM

Nowhere have I suggested that there is a conspiracy against any sector.

The government has launched a disproportionate response in which the cure will be more deadly then the disease.

It is delusional to think there will be a booming economy after this to pay for this.

The vaccine rollout is happening, the pandemic is ending and it's time to start getting back to business. The priority now should be to salvage what industries we can.

Yet we still don't even have a date for retail to open, nevermind the possibility of any tourism this summer.

Degag · 20-04-2021 10:55AM

Tazz T wrote: »

Nowhere have I suggested that there is a conspiracy against any sector.

The government has launched a disproportionate response in which the cure will be more deadly then the disease.

It is delusional to think there will be a booming economy after this to pay for this.

The vaccine rollout is happening, the pandemic is ending and it's time to start getting back to business. The priority now should be to salvage what industries we can.

Yet we still don't even have a date for retail to open, nevermind the possibility of any tourism this summer.

I didn’t say you did. I was responding to another poster who claimed there was until you arrived.

Who claimed there was an agenda against certain industries who will have to help pick up the pieces after this pandemic. Thereby restricting the economic recovery. Laughable.

I believe we’ll get some dates on reopening next week. Hopefully anyway.

Dickie10 · 20-04-2021 09:55PM

King Tony is back so that will put an end to any ideas you have of anything like pubs opening up. As Micheal said " you can forget about take away pints", get ready for , we are gravely concerned, the next 2 weeks is vital.

hynesie08 · 20-04-2021 10:06PM

Dickie10 wrote: »

King Tony is back so that will put an end to any ideas you have of anything like pubs opening up. As Micheal said " you can forget about take away pints", get ready for , we are gravely concerned, the next 2 weeks is vital.

Not really though.

Dickie10 · 20-04-2021 10:12PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Not really though.

are you for real? not a hope of pubs opening before september with him back.

hynesie08 · 20-04-2021 10:16PM

Dickie10 wrote: »

are you for real? not a hope of pubs opening before september with him back.

OK, you're wrong but OK.

20-04-2021 10:31PM

Dickie10 wrote: »

are you for real? not a hope of pubs opening before september with him back.

There had been rumours floating around mid-late June as a valid timeline for pubs reopening. That was before King Tony entered the picture, with uncanny timing ahead of announcement on April 30th for phased easing of restrictions. Now I don't believe in coincidences. He has a particular vendetta against traditional pubs serving indoors. "Covid loves a sup, I sure as hell don't and neither should you". The sector has been ravaged enough without the spectre of Holohan looming large. My prediction, he'll push them out until after the August bank holiday for pure spite, furthermore if there is an inevitable bump in cases by late September he'll cut them off until the following spring. Even if Covid becomes as meek as the annual flu after first cycle of vaccines (remember that stealthy killer roaming the country far and wide taking elderly pensioners by the thousands - media hardly noticed unless those trolleys clogged the corridors). Cases, cases, cases...a handful of ICU admissions :eek: It's the devil's nectar I tell you, everyone is getting plastered and systemically destroying the hospitals. Those degenerate publicans are to blame, better put them out of business permanently. It wouldn't surprise me if Tony is a recovering alcoholic, never has a single individual's agenda against an entire sector been so nakedly apparent.

Tenzor07 · 20-04-2021 10:32PM

Dickie10 wrote: »

are you for real? not a hope of pubs opening before september with him back.

Best we in the south can hope for now is to head up North for the weekend and some pints at a pub...
With Dr. Doom back in charge the outdoor pints here will stop and we'll all be told to "Go the extra mile" to "keep the variants out" until everyone is vaccinated in October....

PTH2009 · 20-04-2021 10:43PM

They will want a meal per drink rule. None of this 'have your meal and then all bets our off and you can drink away then'

Just when we thought things for the industry would get going again in swoops Dr Tony. He will have his data ready to suggest reopening hospitality Is a very bad idea and class pets in the dail will agree

hynesie08 · 20-04-2021 10:50PM

I am also going to completely invent a scenario and blame a man I've never met for something I imagine he's going to do.

Degag · 20-04-2021 10:57PM

Deleted User wrote: »

There had been rumours floating around mid-late June as a valid timeline for pubs reopening. That was before King Tony entered the picture, with uncanny timing ahead of announcement on April 30th for phased easing of restrictions. Now I don't believe in coincidences. He has a particular vendetta against traditional pubs serving indoors. "Covid loves a sup, I sure as hell don't and neither should you". The sector has been ravaged enough without the spectre of Holohan looming large. My prediction, he'll push them out until after the August bank holiday for pure spite, furthermore if there is an inevitable bump in cases by late September he'll cut them off until the following spring. Even if Covid becomes as meek as the annual flu after first cycle of vaccines (remember that stealthy killer roaming the country far and wide taking elderly pensioners by the thousands - media hardly noticed unless those trolleys clogged the corridors). Cases, cases, cases...a handful of ICU admissions :eek: It's the devil's nectar I tell you, everyone is getting plastered and systemically destroying the hospitals. Those degenerate publicans are to blame, better put them out of business permanently. It wouldn't surprise me if Tony is a recovering alcoholic, never has a single individual's agenda against an entire sector been so nakedly apparent.

Was this some kind of nightmare you had last night?

Certainly lives in some fictional land anyhow.

NIAC Fanboy · 21-04-2021 04:38PM

Massive increase in places opening for takeaway pints, food and cocktails etc. lately.

Government as usual are way of the pace, the big long drawn out and kite flying routine about opening hospitality in June.

An awful lot of places will be at it long before then.

And a lot more people hopping across the border for pints.

Not the first time they will look like idiots.

pottokblue · 21-04-2021 05:08PM

400+days the nonfood nontakeaway pubs still shut...

Batattackrat · 21-04-2021 05:11PM

There is absolutely nothing stopping at least outdoor dining and beer garden pints at the moment.

The government really are cowards, they don't give a feck as they have their wages every month.

If they really wanted even have a Sunday to Thursday opening time where people will be less inclined to get messy and leave them shut Friday and Saturday.

aziz · 21-04-2021 05:16PM

Batattackrat wrote: »

There is absolutely nothing stopping at least outdoor dining and beer garden pints at the moment.

The government really are cowards, they don't give a feck as they have their wages every month.

If they really wanted even have a Sunday to Thursday opening time where people will be less inclined to get messy and leave them shut Friday and Saturday.

Not true, I can get quite messy any night,Sunday to Thursday 😁

saabsaab · 21-04-2021 05:22PM

Outdoors in the Sun is the way to go.

Batattackrat · 21-04-2021 05:22PM

aziz wrote: »

Not true, I can get quite messy any night,Sunday to Thursday ðŸ˜

Same as myself, often I didn't remember walking to work on a Friday or Monday morning haha.

Too often

NIAC Fanboy · 21-04-2021 05:32PM

pottokblue wrote: »

400+days the nonfood nontakeaway pubs still shut...

An absolute scandal. Did any other country ever come close to that?

hynesie08 · 21-04-2021 05:44PM

NIAC Fanboy wrote: »

An absolute scandal. Did any other country ever come close to that?

Northern Ireland

PommieBast · 21-04-2021 08:27PM

NIAC Fanboy wrote: »

Massive increase in places opening for takeaway pints, food and cocktails etc. lately.

People need to make a living and somehow get on with their lives. Basic economics.

PTH2009 · 21-04-2021 08:49PM

Id take anything now atm (even if it meant getting a mandatory meal), sick of getting drunk inside the 4 walls of my room and zoom stuff

I got a few takeaway pints last weekend it's nice but trying to find somewhere to sit/stand and toilets can be an issue. Think i'll stick to cans til the pubs reopen, it's a little cheaper but nice to get a bit of draught beer the odd time

I'm thinking the government are panicking a bit because of all the bank holiday weekends coming up (May/June and Aug) and they know people will go mad when they allow hospitality open (people 100% right too). We all know NPHETs stance and that won't change ever

Let's hope places reopening in the North will make our dummies act fast but they all think people wont be going over the border and its not an issue. The irish government/NPHET will show the rest of Europe how good boys/girls we were for having our pubs closed

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