Can we have some fcuking control on the airports from high risk countries please?

knockoutned wrote: »

Can anyone tell me if if non-vaccinated children (under 5) of vaccinated parents need to mandatory quarantine if traveling from a listed Company. Only thing I can see is newborns are exempted.

As far as I can make out, yes unless the child is under 6! EDIT: You should be fine with a 5 year old

faceman wrote: »

The India strain hasn’t caught anyone off guard. What an absurd statement to make. It’s treated like any emerging strain. And it’s not considered of concern at present

It's 'under investigation' at the moment yes, that's not to say it shouldn't concern us, but it has caught the scientists off guard as they were expecting the next variant to be similar in mutation to the known variants. To put in laymans terms if the virus is a banana last than year all we had were yellow ones but Britain, SA, Brazil, California and New York discovered green ones with slightly different shades across the countries, leading us to believe the next one would be a shade of green also. India have discovered a pink one, so that's turning heads in the scientific community

faceman wrote: »

Our health system was not under strain in 2020 and was stretched, at best, for a limited period in 2021 at levels comparable to previous winters. It’s hasn’t been overwhelmed for quite sometime.

It is overwhelmed for waiting times for cancer screenings though but there doesn’t seem to be any urgency around that.

In 2020 we peaked at about 1200 hospital beds taken with about 120 in ICU
In 2021 we peaked at about 2500 in hospital with 250 in ICU - we only have about 300 ICU beds in the country so to say we weren't overwhelmed is bending the truth a little bit

faceman wrote: »

If travel has to wait, why doesn’t any social activity domestically so?

2 reasons... International travel brings in less tax money and more risk of cases and variants than social activity domestically does

Havannah. wrote: »

Quick question,

Anyone care to say, what are the chances of being quarantined returning from work in Spain at the end of summer ?

Thanks

Nobody knows - that's the issue

In 4 weeks time we could have an explosion of cases in that neck of the woods through a new Spanish or Portuguese variant

Red Silurian wrote: »

As far as I can make out, yes unless the child is under 6! EDIT: You should be fine with a 5 year old


Thanks, I eventually found the answer on the consulate's website.
"Unvaccinated dependants (including minors) travelling with a fully vaccinated person who is exempt from MHQ are also exempt from mandatory hotel quarantine and can quarantine at home/at the address given on the Passenger Locator Form"

https://www.dfa.ie/irish-consulate/newyork/

Havannah. wrote: »

What's the story with Simon Harris saying the legislation expires at the end of summer ?

The legislation has a sunset clause that requires it to be renewed or it will automatically lapse in June (open to correction on the exact date)

timmyntc wrote: »

Red Silurian wrote: »

Oh so you're arguing the virus didn't come here through travel? How did it get here then? Specifically the British and Indian variants....

Wake up and smell the coffee FFS, every case here can be traced back interationally

Do you genuinely believe that we can keep all the variants out by quarantining travellers from a select number of countries?

The only way it could possibly work is to quarantine ALL incoming travel, because eventually the variants!! will either fade into obscurity or become the dominant, and the dominant strains will spread everywhere as we saw with UK variant.

Its been made very clear time and time again that zero-covid/borders shut approach is unworkable here and would be economic suicide. So do you stand by this piecemeal approach we have now? Do you think it will make any meaningful difference?

I asked first :D:D

Red Silurian wrote: »

Quarantine isn't an issue, if somebody is allowed to quarantine at home. The issue is people don't like Hotel Quarantine, mainly because they can't bend the rules they are locked up in a stuffy room ( and it costs an f-ing fortune )

FYP

Red Silurian wrote: »

Quarantine isn't an issue, if somebody is allowed to quarantine at home. The issue is people don't like Hotel Quarantine, mainly because they can't bend the rules

Or outright break them.

saabsaab wrote: »

Or outright break them.

Nope. My issue with hotel quarantine is I stayed away and all of ye couldn't stop meeting up, house parties, meaningful Christmas etc but somehow it's my fault. And still ye cough covid on each other every day. 400 extra cases per day.

And another issue is you have the nerve to charge us for it.

Do I have to quarantine if coming from a country not on the red list, as in if I left France now and went to Northern Ireland for two weeks would I still be expected to quarantine? If no then why would anyone pay to be detained in a shoebox in Ireland when they can legitimately wait it out in a nice Airbnb in the north?

Dr. Em wrote: »

Under the current restrictions, anyone returning to Belfast will need three Covid tests, just for the return trip.

Quote/ Anyone intending to travel directly, or via another country, to Northern Ireland from outside the Common Travel Area, including British and Irish nationals returning home, must:

- provide evidence of a negative COVID-19 test result taken up to three days before departure
- provide your journey and contact details by completing the UK online Passenger Locator Form(external link opens in a new window / tab)
isolate for 10 days

Since Friday 16 April, you must:
- enter managed isolation (hotel quarantine) for 10 days if travelling from a 'red list' country, or self-isolate for 10 days if travelling from a non 'red list' country - the day you arrive will be treated as day zero
- book a day two and eight test kit if travelling from non 'red list' countries /Unquote

https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/coronavirus-covid-19-international-travel-advice#toc-1

Having to organise the covid tests is a pain alright, still a million miles better than being put into a detention centre for 2 weeks!

mmclo wrote: »

It's not what Cillian de Gascun said on the radio today, there are two changes separately to the spike protein as opposed to one, that just makes it more interesting scientifically not necessarily more infectious or deadly.

Other commentators today (can't recall who) said Indian spread more linked to Religious festivals that Modhi was insisting on allowing and that this variant has been around for a long time

The implications of that may mean that it is able to change more quickly thus making further lmore vaccine resistant deadly variants possible.

IQO wrote: »

The hypocrisy

https://twitter.com/loreillysf/status/1384421282486312960

Sinn Fein as much part of the problem as the government. Absolute despicable bunch of cretins.