Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

eltonyio wrote: »

Oh yeah you're talking about for testing. I mean for being vaccinated. What is the process for proving you are vaccinated?

Sorry my bad. I but I don't think any form of vaccination cert is going to be happening for a while and we may all be stuck with testing before we get back into the country.

The minister tweeted this morning that fully vaccinated are exempt. You still have to test, regardless of that. But how does one go about showing their vaccine status? No point in him saying it exists if it's next to impossible in practice.

The Continental Op wrote: »

No idea how it works here but I was in the UK when my mother was vaccinated and her Doctor who came to the house asked for her vaccination card so he could sign it. So she has a credit card size card with dates and details of both her vaccinations signed by two doctors.

We have a vaccination card with your name, both dates on it and the batch numbers of the vaccine. But that's it. Easy to reproduce with a bit of basic it skills imo

A robust and secure document. It'll be like using the old Irish driving licences abroad. The ability to handwrite is more than I gave them credit for though to be fair.

From the Irish times article listed earlier the Irish Govt wanted the 'green cert' delayed until after summer due to IT, inability to organise a p*ss up etc. There was another times article highlighting the fact that we have no idea who in this country is actually vaccinated and it takes 4 phone calls to get the information verified.
Back to a travel note
If you do arrive in Ireland now the delays at immigration are terrible. Even though the passenger numbers are down 97% Immigration delays from a half full London flight can take an hour as they check everyone's details.
Recently in Madrid I sped through immigration and then had my Health QR code scanned by Health officials ....little extra time or inconvenience to the whole experience. The Govt here have no intention of facilitating or aiding any form of any international transport. Its the perfect scapegoat for their ineptitude

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

Do we, do you get it after the 2nd jab or the first? both my parents have had their 1st jabs and no sign of batch number or card only a leaflet telling them the possible effects

My OH has her AZ vaccinated card with 1st vaccine date on it.
It’s about a credit card size and looks like the card on the above posters picture.
My parents the same card also.

so following on from my previous post i will now be flying into Turkey in July for Surgery ,
i have to fill out this form before entering the country
https://register.health.gov.tr/

my question is will i have to order a PCR test from Dublin to Turkey and visa versa ?

Del Griffith wrote: »

I see scumbag Donnelly has tweeted that if you are vaccinated you can escape hotel prison now, if you also provide a negative test.

The EU green travel cert will mean you can travel freely with proof of vaccination OR a negative test, but in Ireland apparently you need both. And even then, you're expected to quarantine at home aswell.

I was looking at his tweets and can’t find where he says that about the upcoming green cert. Link?

The idea of the cert is to exempt you from any quarantine in europe because it’s purpose is to get tourism going. Ireland is either in or out of the scheme..

Micky 32 wrote: »

I was looking at his tweets and can’t find where he says that about the upcoming green cert. Link?

The idea of the cert is to exempt you from any quarantine in europe because it’s purpose is to get tourism going. Ireland is either in or out of the scheme..

The cert will simply say what your status is on covid. It'll say if you're fully vaccinated, if you have a negative pcr test and when and if you've recovered from covid. It will be up to each member State to determine what criteria they want for someone to enter the Country. Some may only want a negative pcr test or some may want both a pcr test and for you to be fully vaccinated etc.

IngazZagni wrote: »

The cert will simply say what your status is on covid. It'll say if you're fully vaccinated, if you have a negative pcr test and when and if you've recovered from covid. It will be up to each member State to determine what criteria they want for someone to enter the Country. Some may only want a negative pcr test or some may want both a pcr test and for you to be fully vaccinated etc.

Yes i’m aware of that but one of the main reasons for it is to prevent any quarantine home or hotel for fully vaccinated people. There’s not much point signing up to it if you still have to quarantine home or in a hotel. It’s to encourage european tourism not to deter it. So ireland is either joining the scheme or we’re not.

If you still have to quarantine after you meet the cert conditions the only thing the cert is good for is toilet paper.

Micky 32 wrote: »

Yes i’m aware of that but one of the main reasons for it is to prevent any quarantine home or hotel for fully vaccinated people. There’s not much point signing up to it if you still have to quarantine home or in a hotel. It’s to encourage european tourism not to deter it. So ireland is either joining the scheme or we’re not.

If you still have to quarantine after you meet the cert conditions the only thing the cert is good for is toilet paper.

They can but have to explain to the commission the reasons which is similar to now so this isn't the magic bullet for travel I feel some people think it is.

"Notification of other measures – if a Member State continues to require holders of a Digital Green Certificate to quarantine or test, it must notify the Commission and all other Member States and explain the reasons for such measures."

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_21_1181

Edit: What it does do is provide a means for us to know with a high degree of certainty the status of any traveler. So we won't be having to use that hand written piece of hse paper like we saw earlier in this thread as proof.

Interesting article here. Reads a bit like the usual cosy RTE / government propaganda but it also shows the scale of the populist movement to bring in quarantine in first place. Several problems though - most of this is born out frustration by people in deepest part of lockdown 3, driven by people not fully weighing up the domino affect damage and complexity such a system can cause or by fearful zero Covid people that never travel anyways. The system that was ultimately brought in was 1 year too late (we should now be removing restrictions rather than adding any), chaotic, without any planning or criteria, no exit strategy, no clarity / consultation and random in country selection.

https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-comment/2021/0416/1210393-analysis-micheal-lehane/

Hellrazer wrote: »

You couldn't make this **** up.
Its turning into the plot of a sitcom.

These changes within what 2 weeks?
Exemption changes in the last 2 weeks.

1.Youve been vaccinated.
2. Are collecting a surrogate born bay.
3.Have your own baby under a certain age.
4. Are an "ELITE" athlete.
5.Decide to fight things in court.

And the government will now pay if you are

1. A student on Erasmus.
2. Tell them you cant afford to pay - its not means tested btw.


A ****ing joke of a country. The rest of the world is pissing themselves laughing at us.

Complete and utter shambles. They need to have the guts to just drop the whole thing and admit defeat - and get back to focusing on vaccine distribution (the one and only job every single person in government should be working on 24/7 currently).

Micky 32 wrote: »

So EU sources have said Ireland will still implement quarantine on people who have the green pass? If so what’s the point of Ireland joining it?

It seems most people want us shut off from the rest of the world going by above article. Everyday it’s looking more and more like international travel will permanently come to an end because the thret of variants will never go away. Devastating for people who have familes abroad.

That’s why every single person needs to fight this - don’t give them an inch. If every person canvassed TDS and councilors we can push back against the slippery slope that we could find ourselves on. A slope that rich and powerful people (politicians, elite sportspeople) don’t need to worry about

A few posters in here keep assuring us “it’ll all be fine, probably” and “trust our dear leaders”. Problem is I’ve lost all trust in these dear leaders. They’ve shown themselves to be utterly deceitful and keep changing the narrative. Freedoms are very precious but very fragile - and we should be very careful of so easily and trustfully giving them up without any assurances of if you’ll ever get them back.