Are we there yet? Your second Travel Megathread (threadbans in OP}

Hotel quarantine system is an international embarrassment
via The Irish Times
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/hotel-quarantine-system-is-an-international-embarrassment-1.4539350

Superb article in this mornings Irish Times. Tells it like it is.

eltonyio wrote: »

I am confident we will drop the internment in the very near future, but I hope the government does not have to be dragged kicking and screaming through the courts or EU sanctions for much longer to get to that stage. The resumption of travel is the only end game in town given our EU membership, our multicultural society, open economy, open border, island status and reliance on FDI. It will come and everyone on here who has emailed their local TD or MEP to show their dissatisfaction with the current nonsense will have sped it up undoubtedly.

I think thankfully you are right that they’ll be forced to keep walking back from their chaotic plan shortly. The big problem though is the lack of confidence and insecurity their insanity causes - for investment, tourism, aviation sector etc. you saw the Ryanair article where we are now deemed too high risk an investment area. Tourists will be avoiding Ireland for a long time to come now knowing we are capable of such introducing such chaotic plans at any minute. In my work virtually all of our international talent have left and gone back to their own countries in recent months - this last week will have convinced them they are right.

And unless the government don’t scrap this completely or be forced to scale it back in combination with clear measurable criteria and wind down plan it is a dangerous piece of legislation to exist. The “bogeyman variants” will exist forever out there, and only some countries sequence for them anyway - if we use such mysterious and murky criteria for picking countries then we’ll have done nothing to instill confidence.

The quarantine at home for vaccinated whilst a welcome concession is still over the top. What’s the point of vaccines if we claim they don’t work. Yes there is a very tiny percentage of risk of continued transmission while vaccinated but we got to weigh up balance of risks and geh back to normal.

I also can’t understand btw why PCR tests are still so expensive - we need cheaper more quick tests or accept antigen as good enough

Donnelly will be rubbing his hands with excitement to this news. NI copying the republic to introduce MHQ



“”A ten-day stay in a quarantine hotel in Northern Ireland will cost £1,750 for one passenger.“”


https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.rte.ie/amp/1210404/

Ireland should just join the UK. How people from the UK can stroll over and not have MHQ but an Irish citizen can't come home from the EU without being forced into it. It's baffling.

Golfman64 wrote: »

Hotel quarantine system is an international embarrassment
via The Irish Times
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/hotel-quarantine-system-is-an-international-embarrassment-1.4539350

Superb article in this mornings Irish Times. Tells it like it is.

Well written.

It’s telling when a number of countries are looking at ourselves and seeing how much of a shambles it is. It’s embarrassing internally and externally. Never have I seen so many ‘Irish’ embarrassed because of domestic policies and willing to move abroad. We’re a great country at the best of times and we’re destroying ourselves from the in.

Ironically, Stephen Donnellys Twitter account he is desperately infatuated with has his description as - trying to improve the system from the inside. Doing the complete opposite.

Hellrazer wrote: »

I'm not. I'm pointing out that there are no EU countries on the NI list.

Yet. We all know when something like this is introduced they ease it in. Watch the list hugely grow over the coming weeks.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/commentanalysis/arid-40268135.html

“”The fact we know it's working is all the more reason to improve the programme, rather than undermine it.””

I fear this is going to be a permanent fixture. Sad times….

Tazz T wrote: »

Where did MHQ for NI come from? Does Bojo even know about it?

Arlene?

This could have been going on sneakily between our government and the north. They weren’t going to leave a back door open to this.

In the next few weeks watch their list match ours.

Tazz T wrote: »

That was the first thing that popped into my mind.

But in fairness, it's only red list countries so... at least they have some form of metrics unlike our 'pin the tail on the donkey' approach

Look on the bright side, apparently the word on the street is that if we are all good little boys and girls they might allow us inter-country travel sometime in June :rolleyes:

Ray Donovan wrote: »

Article on the independent.ie today states we attempted to delay the EU Travel Cert until September. This country is becoming a DISGRACE.

Attempted? Didn’t succeed? We all know if they delayed it come September they’ll keep trying to extend the delay further and so on. It will be never ending “ oh the variants” ( cue the x files music).

KanyeSouthEast wrote: »

Becoming?

Valid point.

hi guys
i will be flying to the UK (Liverpool Area) in the middle of July for a small Surgery and was wondering if i will have to Quarantine in a Hotel for 14 days when arrive back in Ireland?